Zach/90\irocZ

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You mean forged made in china

I see why you bias Paul

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Rotiform
http://www.rotiform.com/products_sjc_race.html
but IIRC they come from china also so too bad

Would love to see a retro firebird formula with HRE 501 that would be match made in heaven

but theres to many HRE i would want would be a very hard choice to choose

CharcoalBird

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Zach, those are not ROTIFORM wheels. They are made here in the US by CTW-motorsports. Paul actually works there and has made these wheels a direct fit for our cars.

My dream wheel would be with my future setup. HRE S101's...although they are making them in the carbon fiber barrel. If $8-9k isn't enough for the street S101's, the carbon fiber ones are priced way above that.

Trevmust

http://www.tenzoracingsports.com/wheel06.htm
http://www.enkei.com/ekm3.shtml#
our bolt pattern is 5-475/120.7mm right? these websites say they have 120mm wheels, but they say they have 114.3 wheels (the exact bolt pattern of my roommates 3000GT) as well, does that mean their wheels wont fit ours?

Zach/90\irocZ

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Sorry that the way I posted seems like that now that I look at it

I know they are CTw wheels made in the the USA by Paul

Those wheels are sweet that you posted

Correct

120 will fit you can redrill too thirdgen bolt pattern it's a minimal difference

But depending on offset and if you need spacers might be easier to get wheel adapters

114.3 won't fit

Trevmust

i was using the 114.3 as an example of the fact that they used a decimal. I was hoping they didnt for the 120mm ones

Zach/90\irocZ

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http://www.skulte.com/adapterfaq.html
http://www.skulte.com/boltcircle.html

On another note tho

Boze wheels makes some nice wheels also

Cadaver_Puncher

American eagle 028.
But they're discontinued.

Johnny Blaze

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Straight from 1992!

I remember that wheel came with all the 'street machine' model kits back then.

Lmancha96

These have been on my wish list for a while now

InfernalVortex

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Man its hard to find any wheel not made in china anymore. The problem isnt the chinese, it's the boutique expensive, VERY GOOD LOOKING Chinese wheels that are touted as "made in the usa" (when public import records clearly show these companies importing chinese wheels) and they're not approved by any independent wheel quality process, like TUV or JWL. I will put up with no JWL or TUV rating if it's a very, very well-regarded brand with a track record (literally, a record of success on actual racecars, preferably both high level and amateur) for quality products. See CCW as one example.

I like the CTW motorsport wheels because they're tested to a certain load rating for safety (owner is an Engineer which helps a lot on that end of things) and that's the only line of wheels he offers, so he doesnt have to worry about testing 30 different wheel combinations.

Chinese 3 piece wheels get real iffy... I'd trust a Chinese 1 piece wheel a long time before a 3 piece one.

paul_huryk

To fully disclose (if some weren't aware) - CTW Motorsports wheels are manufactured in China, but at one of GM's wheel plants using my manufacturers machinery and only the highest quality alloys. Believe me, if I could have these made in the USA, we would - but the plants with the right capabilities are in China now; exception being some of the high end wheel companies based mostly on the west coast. We would rather have high quality imports than cheap quality domestic wheels to sell.

As a consumer, I want to make sure the products I buy are high quality at a fair price - and are as they are claimed to be. That is why we won't sell junk to anyone, such as $100 cheap IROC knockoffs or low quality ZR1 wheels.

I can't guess about the quality of 3 piece wheels from China, but it is always smart to do your homework and ask around.

Twin_Turbo

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For the guy wanting the flowspec wheels, there's a cosmetically damaged set on ebay for 1K. Downside is they are 20" (19 flowspecs never made it to the market I believe)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-ADV-1-Flow-Spec-5-Matte-Black-BMW-335i-USED-Great-Buy-/290897566974?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43bad89cfe&vxp=mtr

Zach/90\irocZ

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i agree.

"it's the boutique expensive, VERY GOOD LOOKING Chinese wheels that are touted as "made in the usa" ."

they must have very large profits gains.. but who knows.. most if not majority of products are made out there

i run cheap wheels XXR 521 there JWL/VIA Certified
Current setup is Varrstoen ES2 Which are JWL/VIA Ceritified
both 1 piece

it pays to research as US doesnt require the strict test like Japan does IIRC all wheels solld in japan Have to have JWL Certification

but as stated if the wheel has a pure breed racing history then certification doesnt matter

ive personally scene wheels that are not certified break and it causes alot of damage but at the same time have seen good quality ones break also

http://www.jwtc.jp/open/html/e/situmon1.html

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...62&postcount=2

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...59&postcount=1


CCW LM5s are on my wish list lol

Twin_Turbo

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pure breed race wheels are made as light as possible and are noiwhere near tough enough for the street, no potholes on most race tracks.

cser 84 Z28

I have had 2013 corvette ZR1 wheels in gunmetal grey on my list for a while but the USMC doesn't exactly pay you that much. lol

Zach/90\irocZ

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lol search alot , trade, sell, trade
thats how i fund my thirdgen lol navy dont pay enough either and my wife bought parts at times for me when i say please and take her out to dinner so that helps

http://www.oewheelsllc.com
i hear quality isnt to bad cheaper then OEM

for around $600 which is not bad about average for a decent wheel

cser 84 Z28

semper. you sir have just made my night. now i just have to buy tires... haha

Trevmust

Just because something is made in china doesn't mean its crap. If it's certified, it means it wont break on you. All you have to worry about is lead AHAHAHA

Zach/90\irocZ

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lol im FMF Corpsman aka Doc

buy wheels now and tires later when theres a sale or something or spread out tire buying over couple months

Thats what i do

can go on ebay and buy wheel adapters for a decent price also

Trevmust

I like the boze wheels. Can I get custom bolt patterns too? My roommate wants cool rims for his 3000GT

Zach/90\irocZ

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All they do is custom setups

paul_huryk

You may think that intuitively, but the opposite is true for road racing applications.

Road race cars (like CMC) can pull sustained 1.3g (or more) cornering during a 45 minute race, something street cars won't do.

RR cars do a lot of corner hopping, which is to jump the incline curbs to cu racing lines - street cars never do that.

RR cars can really heat up the brakes, which will cause stress through a hub area being very warm to blazing hot and the spokes and wheel barrel at a lower temperature.

Weight may slow you down to a point, but the proper wheel (in terms of strength and reliability) is what racers want. 2lbs less is useless if the wheels are toast after a 45 minute session. Ditto for endurance racers.

>>> Sure drag racing might be 1/4 mile at a time on straight, even pavement, but that may be the only place you could use marginally streetable wheels.

paul_huryk

Or contaminated baby formula or cat food... lol

paul_huryk

I'm not sure of the profit margins of Chinese wheels vs. the same thing made here in the USA, but it is always cheaper to make 3pc wheels than 1 piece ones - forged wheels. But 1pc forged wheels are stronger, yet not as rebuildable - always a tradeoff. No design is perfect, no material is perfect for every application. Carbon fiber is light, yet failure rates are high - steel is super strong, yet heavy - aluminum is expensive, yet pretty light...

Twin_Turbo

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I don't think that, I KNOW that because I own several sets of actual racing wheels (liughtweight modular BBS wheels, Revolution RFX and my jongbloed wheels) and they all are stated as not for street use because they are not designed to take those shock loads. You can bump the kerbs or pull a lot of Gs but this does not induce the same stresses as running over a big pothole or running on a street kerb. The kerbs on the tracks are nothing like those on thje street.

The barrels on real race wheels are usually a lot thinner than on street wheels and they are easily damaged by potholes. In fact, one of my battels was damaged by a tire machining, it was dented by the hydraulic shoe that lifts the tire off. Ever see that done on a street wheel? Next to impossible.

I don't know what kind of wheels you are talking about but I'm talking about something with spin formed barrels and lightweight aluminum or even lighter magnesium centers. These wheels are modular not for looks but so that in case you do bend up a barrel (and it will happen) that you can replace it.

InfernalVortex

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I ahve seen those break in competition environments. The safety factor isnt going to be as good with aftermarket replicas as they are with OEM wheels. Chances are you or anyone else will be fine with them, but I feel better with OEM stuff. I'd go with factory ZR1 wheels if I could.

Zach/90\irocZ

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yea thats what im woundering lol at the end of day its win win for china

yea carbon does have a high failure rate wheel company that comes to mind is dymag seen many threads on those

I can see that happing in performance enviroments but then again who buys repros for competition environments lol

for the regular average guy who just want wheels for a street car.. repros are just fine and from a street driven car ive heard of no complaints

but if its a all out autox or drag car then you would have your track shoes and then wear your nice payless shoes after anyways right lol

everybody seen cheap $500 repros or not and expensives $3500+ wheels break at the limit HRE, Volks.

paul_huryk

I agree - to a point with you.

Keep in mind that due to liability issues, most wheel manufacturers prominently post "for racing use only" on their wheels so that if something happens, liability is reduced.

While the curbs on a racetrack are small and almost harmless compared to street curbs (which can destroy a car if hit), most of the time when they are hit, a vehicle is traveling at very high velocities under a cornering load; unlike a pothole hit straight at city speeds. Most wheel failures on the race track are due to either contact with something (another car usually) or if something like a curb is hit like I mentioned above. Don't get me wrong, street driving can be hazardous in cratered roads - like the ones I deal with in NJ.

Not sure if except for drag racing that I would want to use the type of wheels you mention with spun barrels and ultra lightweight centers - at least not in a 3500lb f-body. 2200lb Miata, maybe...

InfernalVortex

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I'd rather have a larger safety margin in something as crucial as wheels. If all it takes is a little stickier tire to cause a wheel to fail I'm going to go with something else. If it was just a simple matter of street tires mean it's safe to use them then it wouldn't be an issue. It's a personal thing to me, I would rather pay a little more money to know that a freak accident is less likely when it comes to my car, my family, and my life.

Zach/90\irocZ

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i couldnt agree with you more on that and feel the same way and being in medical field in the military "pay attention to detail" is daily used word lol

i was running ebay wheel adapters and really didnt like the quality and feel of them and spent more from motertech i didnt run ebay adapters more than a week lol

i also had iroc repros and never felt safe with those either i found myself constantly checking them on long trips mind you ive never had issues but in back of my mind i think the worse lol

dprest68

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Carlos, PM sent.

Roostmeyer

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SSR Mesh:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...17x10-0-BALLER

I would love a set in gold unfortunately every set I've seen is 4 or 5x114, and I'm guessing parts are next to impossible to find. Probably the closest thing to stock GTA wheels.

Also I would love a set of E50 BBS wheels, but they're incredibly expensive and way out of production. I doubt they'd like street duty. The mag centers are rougher, but at least parts are plentiful for them.

Twin_Turbo

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check out the wheel thread for the epsilon wheels in there, neadly identical to those and very very nice

Roostmeyer

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I don't care for the flanges under the bolts on the southern ways, and I've only ever seen them in 16". There's a set of zero offset centerlock 16x9.5's on stanceworks that would be awesome, but only mickey thompson (I'm assuming they're not very streetable) is making 16" drag radials any more, so that leaves the overpriced kumho xs in 265/45R16. That tire's due for a update anytime now, and that size will probably be dropped. There's just not enough selection anymore to justify big 16" wheels.

paul_huryk

You can still get a few other 16" drag radials other than the Mickey T's today - might want to check into that further... Nitto 555 and BFG are in stock at discount tire direct.

IROCZman15

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yes!! finally, someone else who seems to like the classy boze wheels

I freakin love the "injected" rims they make. pricey, but I don't lan on doing wheels again for at least a decade. http://www.bozeforged.com/images/whe.../injected1.gif

I also like the "tach", "lateral g" and a few others
http://www.bozeforged.com/images/whe.../lateralg1.gif
http://www.bozeforged.com/images/wheels/ze/tach1.gif

been saving up some $ for wheels , and have don't a bit of photoshoppping of these wheels onto my car, and I like the way it looks. but for the life of me...I can't find any photos of someone with a third gen who has these wheels on their car (well I did find one photo of a blue car with the injected rims, but his looked gold, and I don't want gold, so it was difficult to photoshop that out) even on the images linked above, the finish looks flat and tinted gold/silver ish

anyone else a fan of these? especially the injected, in a 17" front and back, high polish. ? or am I just nutty? I just did a drum to disc brake conversion on the rear with nice pbr calipers and ds 12" rotors too.

IROCZman15

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anyone ever seen these on a third gen Camaro before?
http://www.azproperformance.com/images/P/KWC025Std.jpeg

KWC Forged KWC025

http://www.azproperformance.com/KWC-Forged-KWC025.html

thoughts opinions?


also, what is the actual difference between a "stepped" lip and a "soft" lip I think I can assume the definition, but maybe i'm wrong? soft meaning rolled and then smooth like a deep lip?

Trevmust

I work at a tire wholesale warehouse. I get everything at cost. we dont stock boze though

Jwood1991

love these Rohana concave wheels and the price is good wish I knew how to use photo shop

Jwood1991

chad pickens

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18x10 all four corners
w/either 285/40 or 285/35

penguinpanda0

I just want wider versions of what I already have (OZ Superleggeras)



Not exactly happy that I had to go down to 235s for these wheels. At least they look nice....

IROCZman15

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I am a huge fan of a few wheels BOZE makes. I am actually about a month away from purchasing some wheels for the car. I photoshopped a bunch of my top options onto photos of my car. you can view them here

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/whee...hotoshops.html

-Boze Injected
-KWC 025
-Boze Lateral-G
-Boze Boost

so in answering the original posts question.. I'd probably say my dream wheels are on of those few.. mostly Boze Injected

Ron U.S.M.C.

For my car its the American Racing AR-23s. Old School Muscle car look.

paulo57509

I'm old school T/A racing as well.

http://www.tyresave.co.uk/minilite.html

cycleguy04

Mad Max style.

Click on the thumbnail. Anyone know what size wheel tire and backspacing these are?

Eagle223usa

Me also!

PAFORM350

what type of wheels are these?

jazzdadss

Colorado Customs, Denver, 18x8, 18X9

5215

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I'm torn. Old school classics remastered, or something totally different. Both are outta my current budget. Figures!