kmcn47

plan on at some point turbo-ing the car just wanted to know what is the best turbo for my money which i know will be outrageous, and i dont want to do anything really to the internals of the motor or the cooling, if this isn't possible could someone please explain what would need to be done, the stock engine has 140hp i'd like 250-300 out of it just so i can get some respect when i talk about my car, that old its beautifully smooth and aerodynamic excuse is starting to get old

Project 3.4 Camaro

Yeah if only some guy would writeup a real detailed thread on modifying cars in general, and some other guy would write up a more detailed/specific guide to turbocharging.
I guess I just don't get why people can't be bothered to read stickys before asking questions that have been answered already.....

Pillsbry10

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becuase you didnt link them to this thread...duh...

K-slice

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I always wonder what happens to all the people that come on here looking to make 300 horses with an old 2.8... Seems like about one a week starts a thread, posts a few more times, then disappears...
My guess is most of them realize they have far too little knowledge/budget/patience, sell the V6 Bird/Camaro and buy a Honda.

Fallen2603

Gooood...simply adds to the victim pool to increase my "kill" count.

Project 3.4 Camaro

Well I started out as one of them and made it to about 200 hp with a 3.4, give or take :P Out of funds though so things are on hold till I can find a job...which is proving quite difficult =/ I've contemplated getting a different car, but not because of power goals so much as I've run out of money and every time I fix one thing something else breaks....but I probably won't, since I'm too far into it and nobody would want my car, I will eventually get another car though way down the road when I've got this one dd reliable, that or I'll get a dd and just save to fix the camaro all at once or something and let it sit in the meanwhile.

kmcn47

"Yeah if only some guy would writeup a real detailed thread on modifying cars in general, and some other guy would write up a more detailed/specific guide to turbocharging.
I guess I just don't get why people can't be bothered to read stickys before asking questions that have been answered already"

well as a matter of fact i have, and come up with an awful lot of things like "why don't you just get a 350 and forget about the six" "if you want more power out of a six just get a 3.4"

well let me make it clear my firebird was born with the 2.8l v6 it has and it'll have it forever


"because you didnt link them to this thread...duh..."

he didn't have to i know how to search and read, as "the late Stephen" would often tell people to do

i was hoping to get comments like "hey a good turbo kit is XXXXXXX, its available at XXXXX.com its only $XXX.xxx" maybe thats too much to ask, but perhaps a "you shouldn't have to do too much to the internals there pretty much solid enough to handle a non extreme amount of boost" something like that would have been helpful you know just tips and tricks "hey watch out for this when you install it will be a real B*tch" would also have been good. i'm actually surprised i didn't get things like this to begin with, usually everyone on the site is incredibly detailed in thee posts and very helpful

project89

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any run of the mill ebay t3/4 57trim turbo will do it.
do not buy one with a blue or black tag on it though,though those old stock turbos are begining to become a lot les frequent on ebay.


stock motor will take whatever u throw at it with the t3/t4,that turbo cant make enough power to break anything,unles su have a motor thats in bad condition,

it will suport between 400-425 hp at the crank tops

Pillsbry10

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Really you searched and read them? Because the sticky at the top here that project89 wrote up and my turbo thread(which pops up pretty high up on a search) pretty much cover everything that you asked

The reason for some crap responses is all the info is there but no one cares to really read through them so after awhile people stop repeating the same info

kmcn47

yeah i did read them, i have to admit some of it i skimmed and alot of it kinda confuses me , i am only 17 after all and kinda new to cars, i was hoping to find out what if any turbo was better for my car than others, like is one brand made one that you had to do less to the engine bay to accommodate it and it was "recommended" or something

Fallen2603

First off man, not many people are gonna give you all the information you could ever want with a happy-go-lucky smile on their face. Especially, if that information is already out there in an easy-to-find location, and the questions you've asked haven't been asked dozens of times. Project 3.4 Camaro's probably just a little pissed, rightfully, that no one reads his awesome sticky after all the time and research he put into it.

There is no magic kit to put a turbo on a V6 Camaro. You'll basically have to build it yourself, or have someone else build it custom for you.

And...most of the stuff you were looking for was in those sticky's. Just take the time to read ALL of it.

sam24th

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Yea there are no turbo kits you can actually buy and just bolt on. Everything will have to be custom fabbed as far as the piping goes. Most people on here I see with turbos use the usual ebay turboes which is the direction I will probably take down the road. If you want more horses out of the engine with bolt ons the only real things you could do to it without extensive mods would be intake, exhaust, headers, etc. If you dont really understand what goes into making a turbo work Id suggest you do a bit more research and study the components so you know what each part does before diving into trying to make it faster.

kmcn47

thanks for the info, and i'm sorry if my ignorance infuriates you as much as it does others, i am have been researching turbos as of recently to be honest for a school report on them in physics, and it intrigued me to better understand how they increase horsepower and performance, and after reading about turbocharged cars having upwards of 700 horses i of course wanted one for my already reasonably quick car, now that i know there aren't any made to bolt on, I'll probably wait until i have a greater level of mechanical skill and then try it or until someone makes a kit for it.

Fallen2603

You're not ignorant, man. Just uninformed. We don't mind that. We mind when the uninformed just waltz in here and expect all their questions to be answered with no effort given on their part. Most of the guys on here have had to work real hard for all the knowledge and know-how they have. Give them some respect by putting in some of your own effort to get what you want.

I doubt anyone will ever make an actual kit for sale for this set-up. Any decent exhaust shop should be able to fab up all the stuff you need.

Hmmm...check this out. I don't know if it will work on a 3rd-Gen, but it's the same style motor.
http://www.force-fed-fabrications.com/index2.htm
Look under Shop Project Cars, 3.4L Turbo Kit. There are some pics too. That's the closest thing I've seen to a kit...

kmcn47

neat, that link had some interesting stuff, its unfortunate that none will ever make a kit for the 2.8 but thanks for the information

micktroup2

The 3.4 kit should work with the 2.8/3/1 engines- same block and heads. The trick will be getting the engine management sorted(this from someone with NO experience with turbos- someone more experienced can comment better than I can)...

bl85c

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LOL

Fallen2603

Yeah, the 3.4L V6 is the same block and head dimensions as the 2.8/3.1, but I don't think that kit would work on a 3rd-Gen. I recall someone saying that the RKSport headers won't fit right in a 3rd-Gen without being "massaged" a wee bit. Also not sure how all that piping would kit around a 3rd-Gen K-member compared to the 4th-Gen.

Fallen2603

LOL! Okay, ingnorant and uninformed mean the same thing, but positive spin never hurt anyone.

micktroup2

The RK headers are a problem. One of them hits the firewall and needs to be 'massaged' as you said. With a Turbo though, I would think you would put the headers on backwards, pointing towards the front and the turbo. I would probably go with a tubular K member anyway, so as to have more room...

Fallen2603

That's one of the things I don't like about this kit, but...it is about the only kit I've seen out there that's even cose.

jakemussman

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It would be nice if there was a kit. I have been slowly piecing my setup together a little at a time.

Fallen2603

I think just about everyone who wants to turbo their V6 feels the same way.

kmcn47

really appreciate the link, already saving for the kit and some other stuff to go with it

Sean Ecv Druery

My only question 3.4 is will these work on the 2.8

fasteddi

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Old thread and im not prjt3.4, but yes it will work on a 2.8L. Id sugest a newer one(post 1985). As the older ones are weaker.

Read my sig, works well on a 3.1L I know that.