flowmasterRS

It seems to me with all this talk of V6 Camaros being quite slow, that mine has proven to be quite a fighter. Two examples, I raced my friend's '03 (i think it's '03) Acura RSX Turbo. Distance was probably 1/4th mile, and right up until the end I had half a car lead. He took off faster but I caught up, my car auto his semi auto.

And last night, ran into a cocky SN95 Mustang GT. (Had GT badges at least, definitely sounded like the 8 cyl. as well. However there are a lot of "fakes" in my area) From the green light we hit it and I stayed right with him through 1st and 2nd. 3rd he began to walk, as expected

My mods to the engine are a Flowmaster catback, 80 series muffler (DOR), aftermarket fuel injectors (not sure on brand/specs for them, my mechanic threw them in during an oil change for 20 bucks), and K&N air filter. Hope to be K&N intake kit soon.

Anyway...do any of you guys have a rather quick 6? From what I've done to the car, not much, I wouldn't think to improve the 6's performance too well, and I don't think there's much more to do while staying n/a.

Bullydawg

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You sure they were racing?

flowmasterRS

Yep, I planned it with my friend and his RSX, as for the Mustang, he was revving his *** off at me and stayed right with me. Maybe he was toying around, but I definitely had the RSX to about the end full throttle.

Bullydawg

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I don't think Rsx came with a turbo stock, do they? I know my buddy in a 5.0 mustang bone stock lost to a Turboed RSX.

I am not going to rag on you, I mean my buddy with an 87 RS with a 5 Speed (3.42 open rear) could chirp 3rd... No joke. I was amazed.

flowmasterRS

Daaaaaammmmnn third! Wow!

His RSX came with the base 4 cyl, but I know he bought and installed a sweet turbo for it. Has a super loud BOV too, the thing is a beauty. He's going for the Type-S upgrade I think (Type-S came with turbo stock I believe) and had everything down except badging and suspension when we raced.

Another thing for my car, I can spin the rear wheels when I'm doing a 5-10mph roll straight line as well, new tires as of late December on dry asphalt. I have no idea if this is the norm or what, figured I'd just post it anyway.

Bullydawg

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I can spin my drag radials at 30 MPH on dry street . I wouldn't mind picking up a cheap 3.1 camaro and slapping a turbo on it though...

flowmasterRS

Drag radials though, things are like bare ***! Haha

And yes, a 3.1 turbo is a sweeeet setup. I wouldn't pay for it though, running on 161K miles, engine rebuilt 10,000 ago but still, I'm afraid the damn thing will blow up

Bullydawg

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Drag radials are very sticky. I could spin my street tires at 40...

flowmasterRS

I wouldn't know about drag radials at all so forgive me. I've only seen pictures and they just look like worn out tires with no tread. But damn 40 mph? A V6?

Bullydawg

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Not quite. Modded 5.7.
What are your plans for your car? Manual Swap? Engine mods? Swap?

calamitascamaro

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Read his sig bro.

chevyracingrox

these engines are really underrated. you can pick them up for so much cheaper than a V8. everyone wants a v8, but if your willing to settle, you'll be suprised. my camaro will chirp 2nd. that thing is fast as hell. my dad had a 305 and he said mine is about as fast as his was. nice.

flowmasterRS

Haha I feel like an idiot, car specs in the sig, D'oh!
As for my car plans, nothing too big. I'd like to just replace/clean what I've got in there. I'd love love LOVE to swap the 700r4 for the T-5, found a decent one for 400, but I don't have the kind of money for that installation right now. Besides as soon as I go to college they don't allow cars freshman year so it'll be sitting for a bit.

And yeah chevyracingrox, I agree. They're pretty sweet, sound really well especially with an aftermarket exhaust (most people that ask about my car think it's an 8), and those RPM's jump up really quick.

d00012

I beat a Vtec Civic a couple weeks back. He must have sucked with a clutch...because my Camaro wasn't running good. Nothing but kids with their rice burning tuners here, all thinking they're in the Fast & Furious movies. And jerks driving their mustangs, thinking they own the road because they have a Ford...some people, eh? But at least we'll have the last laughs, beating them with our third-gen V6's!

bl85c

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Well mine's certainly no brute, but I can burn the tires and spank on L03 cars. Not that the tbi 305's are anything special by v8 standards (lethargic, actually), especially weighed down & undergeared as many are.

jensen73110

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I think the RSX was messing with you too. 500 lbs lighter, and 50 hp more stock. With a turbo it could have easily twice your hp while being lighter. Granted, its lame fwd, but unless your buddy really sucks with a manual, even a stock base RSX should have taken you.
Our cars are dog slow stock.

8urv8

I have a 92' rs with: 12:1 wiseco pistons, eagle con rods, crane 426* cam, custom cold air intake, 26lb. injectors, flowmaster delta force race muffler w/ 3.5" mandrel bent exhaust tubing and i'm working on a custom ELECTRIC "turbo". no joke. I also only run VP 114 race gas.

s346k

for comparison...my 01 ford ranger with 165k miles, completely stock 2.3L 5 spd on the original clutch, o2 sensors, everything...would chirp 3rd gear. i don't know if you guys have noticed it or not, but chirping tires ain't what it used to be. fwiw the truck went 16.9 @ 80 on a 2.59 60'...punishing the passenger side rear tire for like 100' off the line.

Bullydawg

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I am quite aware of that for the fact my car wont chirp 2rd (Torque Converter) and I would destroy my buddies 2.8.

flowmasterRS

Haha completely agree! I mean I respect Mustangs and everything, but they're just allll overrr. My dad had an '89 GT 5spd and that's where my love for them grew. But as I grew older I liked Camaros a lot better, and I prefer Chevy (maybe just biased, whole family owns Chevys).

Matter of fact, I passed up a deal on a '98 GT for my Camaro And I'm really happy I did. This car is a lot more fun, and not too common in my area, unlike the Mustang. I'm asked about it a lot at gas stations and the like.

More abundant than Mustangs, however, are your rice burners. Yesterday I ran into a '92 Corolla sedan (google image that - seriously) with a Racing Spoiler and a fart can. I mean I'm all for liking what you've got and doing the way you want, but it still made me laugh.

However I must confess I'm a closet case Cobra lover. Need to drive one of those in this lifetime!

flowmasterRS

Yeah that's possible but I have no idea...it doesn't make sense on paper why I beat him, hell it doesn't make sense in general! This kid's an ego freak and all about Import vs. Muscle superiority, no idea why he'd lag behind. Oh well, it is what it is!

d00012

Oh the Cobras are nice, no doubt about that (I prefer the Saleens). I've seen Geo Metros with spoilers and those "fart cans," as well as the Corolla. I don't know if those kids think they are cool, or they have discovered some kind of fluke in the car world and these cars are super fast with bolt-on spoilers and exhaust tips. Who knows...

flowmasterRS

Haha I didn't even include the Saleens, those things are amazing! I also love the Mach 1's. Scary fast cars.

I've only seen one Saleen around here, and it had a Stalker kit. Blacked out, rims, windows, lights....the thing was a monster on the road. Loved every second of it.

d00012

There's a Saleen dealership about 30 minutes north of where I live, but hardly see any driven on the road.

flowmasterRS

Best thing we have in local dealerships is a sweet GT-500 KR at a Ford dealership, unless you want to count a superdealership in Jersey about 20-30 mins away that carries exotics.

chevyracingrox

ew, mustangs. I got a friend that loves mustangs, but guess what. he has a V6 camaro. as much as he doesn't like it he's neglected it and taken it through hell and back. it finally died and has really low fuiel pressure. I got to drive his auto V6 before I had mine running. even if his tranny mount wasn't shot(lol, really bad) I would have stomped him though. T5 makes a big difference.

flowmasterRS

Wanttttt the T-5! Found one on Craigslist for 400, but I think installation would kill me.

chevyracingrox

haha, yea. the T5 is like 200 lbs lighter than a 700R4. so not only do you get overdrive, the fun of a manual, and more control of your car's torque output, but also less weight. you can find less than 400 for a T5. look for 200 or 300 instead. I'm telling you, the difference is night and day.

flowmasterRS

Damn you're way too convincing. I want one so bad. My Automatic has overdrive too, btw. I love it!

But seriously, manual not only gives you more power to your car but it makes driving so much more fun.

flowmasterRS

Just did another search and found one for 100, but it's for the V-8 models...lame...only other T-5's are from Mustangs.

How much do you think a swap would be in installation fees? If you can guess.

Firebat

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I could chirp 3rd about every time that I tried to with my stock tires, 3.42's, and T5. Just means I wasn't getting traction. Found out my torque arm bracket bushing was shot when I swapped out the rear(rear blew up). I haven't really got on it yet very hard but with the new torque arm bracket poly bushing along with the 3.23s it hardly spins through 2nd and seems quicker. Not near as jerky but thats the bushing working.

The V6/T5 does seem a little quick. Probably a little faster than my old 305-LG4/700r4/2.73 combo in my other car. My V6 lost to a stock '88 T/A with 305-TBI/T5/3.23 though.

d00012

Off subject, but is it normal to see a dodge caravan with dual exhaust and sound like it's a V8? And to top it off, it had a hot wheels paint job and some soccer mom driving it...

wonder what it would be like to race that...

Bullydawg

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I wonder the look on your face losing to a Minivan Hahaha

d00012

I wish I got the chance to race it. Would have been a unique experience.

I would have been like

chevyracingrox

lol, how about driving something like that? that would be...different.

d00012

I would still feel inferior and ridiculous in a van...I don't know what it is, but they feel awkward.

Bullydawg

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No way... Minivans are the ****. Load up a van full of people and BAM! Time to CRUISE!

flowmasterRS

Vans suck...and dual exhaust? V8? I don't think it's physically possible to fit a V-8 into a Caravan engine bay....maybe V6? Should've smoked him d00012!

d00012

Haha, that's what my 91 GMC Suburban is for!



I tried to catch up, the soccor mom was too quick! Yeah, possibly a V6, but sounded like it had a nice cam kit. Sounded like my dads 72 GMC Jimmy.

gotabekidding

V6's are ok for what they are

But they still are 2 cyl shy of an engine that can
Until then they are the engine that could!

Advancements in v6 performance aside, you are still trying to move about 3750 pounds with 6 cylinders

An RSX turbo or a mustang 5.0 against a v6 f body ?????

You would have to have the turbo GTA, and then you would wipe the floor with them

d00012

These V6s have potential though. And 6 cylinders is better than moving the same weight with an I4.

shakenbake

Dont the 305's make 165 hp on super while the v6's make 135 on regular? I wouldent buy the v8 for 30 hp... The whole reason I bought the v6 though was because I have heared from other people they are way more reliable and better built than the v8s.

avro206

thats ridiculous...don't listen to people like that.

avro206

no 3rd gen weighs 3750lbs....a V6 should be 3200 or under.

The V6s were ok or average for the day. Compared to cars today they are very weak. My stock 2.4L Cobalt auto runs 15.6---would just murder a stock V6 3rd gen.

I wouldn't mind modding one just for fun though...I used to own a 2.8L automatic 86 Camaro.

K-slice

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shakenbake is obviously new. He appears to be unaware there were 2 V8's. He's talking about the 5.0 TBI. The TPI was the more popular V8 and made over 200 horse.

I've beat some Cobalt's and lost to a few. I'm guessing the I4's were the ones I beat. My friend has a 91 Cavalier, paint all faded with no muffler and a glasspack. We go around and rev 'er up next to sti's and other such ricers, usually they think we're serious about a race so they take off. Best quote I ever got from the driver of a rice burner was as he leaned out his window and said "my grandpas grocery getter could beat that trailer trash piece of s***".

d00012

Yeah, I get weird looks from people when I used to drive a 99 Pontiac Grand Prix GT. Like I was driving some kind of granny car or something. It's had several modifications to have the same horsepower as the GTP. So by no means was it slow. And my camaro, I had to replace the door (different color) so it looks kind of trashy. I've had people laugh when I pull up next to them and rev my engine.

Toehead

Probably one of the turbo ones!

http://www.turbovan.net/turbovan.html

bl85c

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A guy that comes to my shop thinks his caravan is a hotrod for some reason. He'll stand on the gas and burn up his tires just for fun. I watched him do it one day and he actually fried the crap out of his brand new tires. Billowing smoke, chunks of tire flying, the whole stupid van shaking. It was quite a sight, I'm suprised he didn't blow a tire because he ripped on it for a good 5 mins. Not much left of them when he was done.

flowmasterRS

Oh man...priceless!!

chevyracingrox

bl85c, thats not uncommon. i know my neighbor is the same.