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Old 12-02-2008, 06:47 AM
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car not wanting to start

well this morning it was kinda cild low 40s and as i got to my car to go to school this morning she dident want to start i crancked her and she started and died a few times till i got her going by frathering the throttle and as soon as i let off the throtle she died so i started her up one more time and kepth her alive and went to school and as she warmed up she ran fine i dont want this to be a recuring problem eney ideas? thanks
Old 12-02-2008, 02:36 PM
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Re: car not wanting to start

sounds to me like an IAC problem possibly.
Old 12-02-2008, 09:19 PM
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Re: car not wanting to start

MAF or the associated relay are going south... I have that same problem each time it's time to replace either/or.
Old 12-04-2008, 10:57 AM
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it dident throw eny codes wouldent the MAF show some codes and for the iac the prevous owner chenged it 2 years ago and since it hapend last time it starts right up its weard
Old 12-06-2008, 04:16 PM
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Re: car not wanting to start

Yes almost always the MAF will set a code, and they are pretty shitty designs, they go out a lot on the V6-heated film type. But i'd say at at first it sounds like maybe IAC, but that usually only affects the idle, and it doesnt matter if its warm or cold, so thats strange. good luck
Old 12-07-2008, 03:34 PM
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It's funny how my MAF never throws a code when malfunctioning, only when it's disconnected, which is a code 34, although it has shot a code 33 at me once... Take the thing out and look at the film inside it, with a light reflecting off of it. If it looks like water on a lake, aka wavy, replace it. It should be perfectly flat.

Oh, and you may want to go out and get a can of MAF sensor cleaner to clean the film. That may help, and it may not. And, please read carefully: DO NOT, FOR ANY REASON, TOUCH THE FILM with anything other than the cleaner. Direct the cleaner spray into the OUT end and out the INLET end so as not to mess up the electrics.

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ok well i will look into the cleaner but it wint be intill nest week got final exams all this week she hasent acted up yet but my car does randomly stall not latley but she does that and i get pretty bad fuel economy and when she stalls no codes eny ideas?
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Re: car not wanting to start

I'm thinking 3 things here:

1. Still thinking MAF problem. You don't have to have any money to examine the film inside the sensor... Just take it out and look at it.
2. Coolant temp sensor, next to the thermostat housing, is another possibility.
3. Tiny vacuum leak. My car originally had a MASSIVE vacuum leak because ALL of the lines had rotted. Symptoms include bad fuel economy, stalling, hesitation. I had been getting around 5 (no, that's not a typo) MPG...

Has the car ever thrown any codes at you that you recall? If so, which ones?
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