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Old 01-14-2024, 08:52 AM
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Who's 9" is the best deal ?

Looking for an axle package. I have a third member. Who's 9" is the best deal ? Quick? Moser ?

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Quick seems the best budget/value i think. One buddy has their housing and liked it. Cars been 4.50’s. They have their own brand axles i guess or a moser upgrade for cost adder.

i went midwest chassis, fabricated housing, which doesnt like moser axles lol they use strange. I dont see a problem with them but i guess something about the overall machining quality? They are abit more pricey but very nice. Comes with its own torque arm system where you weld in a crossmember so you need subframes installed

moser street 9” are stupid heavy. Id pay for the fab housing imo
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Midwest Chassis. They hold their value a lot better than any of the other units out there. If you ever decided to sell it you could get most of if not all of your money back. The torque arm has tons of clearance and makes setting pinion angle as easy as twisting your wrist.

I had a quick performance 9 and honestly it fit like ****. The funky torque arm bracket was a joke and hit the floor.
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I have a full moser setup in my car. It was a pretty simple setup and complete. It's been pretty well abused and held up great. Its torque arm mount needed a little clearancing on the floor in one small spot. My car is lowered 1.5-2in. If it was higher I think it would not have been an issue. They're may have been less expensive ways to go about it but I'm happy w it
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Thank you for the replies. The Midwest looks interesting. Any photos of that torque arm bar in the vehicle? curious where it lands.

Anyone have any photos of the Quick ? The ones on the website are terrible. Curious how the torque arm mount is set up. I currently have a jegster torque arm in the car. Always liked it.

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Thank you for the replies. The Midwest looks interesting. Any photos of that torque arm bar in the vehicle? curious where it lands.

Anyone have any photos of the Quick ? The ones on the website are terrible. Curious how the torque arm mount is set up. I currently have a jegster torque arm in the car. Always liked it.

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The crossmember lands about 6 inches behind the transmission crossmember. The torque arm is mwc 3rd gen specific mid length 2 piece arm. I don't have any pics of it in the car for whatever reason.
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The crossmember lands about 6 inches behind the transmission crossmember. The torque arm is mwc 3rd gen specific mid length 2 piece arm. I don't have any pics of it in the car for whatever reason.
I have a single 3.5" exhaust in the stock routing. Would that be a problem getting over or under it?
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I have a single 3.5" exhaust in the stock routing. Would that be a problem getting over or under it?
You could easily snake it in between the trans and TA crossmember. The crossmember is actually a 3 piece unit the center is held by 4 bolts on each side
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i still have my spohn crossmember that i want to junk and make my own lighter mount.
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i still have my spohn crossmember that i want to junk and make my own lighter mount.
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That must be an older design torque arm from mwc?? I see your adjuster is on the bottom where mine is on the down slope and twists
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I have personally owned Moser, Quick Performance, Midwest Chassis and Racecraft. My Quick Performance housing bent 3/16 of an inch in 2 years and the torque arm mount failed. I tried to buy a torque arm mount to replace it and they refused to sell me one. The Moser was just fine with the exception of the splines on the axles chipping (but to be fair I was 650hp and 3700lbs on 31 spline axles) but it was definitely heavy. Midwest Chassis and Racecraft are both works of art. Midwest is the best bang for the buck IMO.

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I have personally owned Moser, Quick Performance, Midwest Chassis and Racecraft. My Quick Performance housing bent 3/16 of an inch in 2 years and the torque arm mount failed. I tried to buy a torque arm mount to replace it and they refused to sell me one. The Moser was just fine but heavy. Midwest Chassis and Racecraft are both works of art. Midwest is the best bang for the buck IMO.
I also had a quick performance 9 but never had a chance to run it. The thing for like **** and would have needed all kinds of floor clearancing etc etc. Then I figured I'd buy the mwc torque arm and mounting tabs but that would've been a separate nightmare and just pulled the thing out and sold it off
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That must be an older design torque arm from mwc?? I see your adjuster is on the bottom where mine is on the down slope and twists
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Hmmm maybe mine is an older design. I bought mine Jan 2021
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I have personally owned Moser, Quick Performance, Midwest Chassis and Racecraft. My Quick Performance housing bent 3/16 of an inch in 2 years and the torque arm mount failed. I tried to buy a torque arm mount to replace it and they refused to sell me one. The Moser was just fine with the exception of the splines on the axles chipping (but to be fair I was 650hp and 3700lbs on 31 spline axles) but it was definitely heavy. Midwest Chassis and Racecraft are both works of art. Midwest is the best bang for the buck IMO.
Did you bend the quick housing with the same 650 hp mill? Did you drag the car with slicks? Just looking for context as I weigh my own 9" options.
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Did you bend the quick housing with the same 650 hp mill? Did you drag the car with slicks? Just looking for context as I weigh my own 9" options.
Interesting question. 650hp seems low to bend a housing.

For context, I've had a built 10 bolt for a decade and my supercharger made over 600 crank hp. My new turbo setup should make around 800.

10 bolt is still going strong but I was thinking of putting it in my 4th gen formula as that car has a 2.73.
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I have personally owned Moser, Quick Performance, Midwest Chassis and Racecraft. My Quick Performance housing bent 3/16 of an inch in 2 years and the torque arm mount failed. I tried to buy a torque arm mount to replace it and they refused to sell me one. The Moser was just fine with the exception of the splines on the axles chipping (but to be fair I was 650hp and 3700lbs on 31 spline axles) but it was definitely heavy. Midwest Chassis and Racecraft are both works of art. Midwest is the best bang for the buck IMO.
did you order the back brace and gusset options? Fabricated big web? With all that id be shocked if it bent. On my buddy’s housing, he has those options and makes closer to 1600-1700 at the tire and has gon 4.50’s in the 1/8.
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did you order the back brace and gusset options? Fabricated big web? With all that id be shocked if it bent. On my buddy’s housing, he has those options and makes closer to 1600-1700 at the tire and has gon 4.50’s in the 1/8.
Jesus Christ. I remember when I first started going to the track 30 years ago, 12 second quarter miles were considered fast. The first time I broke into 120mph I was impressed.

Now I go to the track and I see fwd imports running 9s.

​​​​​​I'm not sure yet whether or not I'm going to run slicks on this car, I think even with a TKX transmission it might break stuff. Was thinking maybe just some drag radials and spinning out of the gate.
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Looking for an axle package. I have a third member. Who's 9" is the best deal ? Quick? Moser ?
I went with the Quick Performance Light and strong fabricated housing. It was priced better than the Moser at that time. It is a nice unit and fit well.
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That must be an older design torque arm from mwc?? I see your adjuster is on the bottom where mine is on the down slope and twists
I like the Midwest Chassis torque arm. My car needs that.
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I like the Midwest Chassis torque arm. My car needs that.
i like their setup too just wish it was a bit shorter to help hit the rear harder. The geometry with the long arm, lca angles and ride height doesnt seem to have alot of antisquat and separation for me.

my buddy for some reason says he bent the older midwest torque arm but i make more power and heavier than he is, and havent hurt mine yet
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Jesus Christ. I remember when I first started going to the track 30 years ago, 12 second quarter miles were considered fast. The first time I broke into 120mph I was impressed.

Now I go to the track and I see fwd imports running 9s.

​​​​​​I'm not sure yet whether or not I'm going to run slicks on this car, I think even with a TKX transmission it might break stuff. Was thinking maybe just some drag radials and spinning out of the gate.
yeah its not hard these days. Holley efi, todays turbo options. Just add fuel and boost lol hard part is just getting a glued track to get the radials to do their job. Typical bracket race track prep doesnt quite allow them to fully shine.

The whole stock ls long block stuff with china turbo is so cheap and easy now for 8-9 sec cars anymore
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Did you bend the quick housing with the same 650 hp mill? Did you drag the car with slicks? Just looking for context as I weigh my own 9" options.
It was a 700hp nitrous, stick shift car on slicks. A lot of launch RPM. It was one of their older housings with just internals gussets. Im sure their newer stuff is better.

Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ
did you order the back brace and gusset options? Fabricated big web? With all that id be shocked if it bent. On my buddy’s housing, he has those options and makes closer to 1600-1700 at the tire and has gon 4.50’s in the 1/8.
Mine was an older housing. It had internal gussets but it was just a stamped housing. I straightened the housing and back braced it. But when they refused to sell me a torque arm bracket that told me everything I needed to know about them.
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Anyone have any photos of the Quick ? The ones on the website are terrible. Curious how the torque arm mount is set up. -- Joe
Joe , as requested
Anticipating a possible flex point and knowing never going back to stock , I cut and welded the Spohn TA adapter direct to the QP adapter eliminating the bolts.
​​​​​​​(Only used the adapter because I had it , would have been easy enough to fab the required mounts for the rose joints as shown )








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Joe , as requested
Anticipating a possible flex point and knowing never going back to stock , I cut and welded the Spohn TA adapter direct to the QP adapter eliminating the bolts.
​​​​​​​(Only used the adapter because I had it , would have been easy enough to fab the required mounts for the rose joints as shown )








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The way you've got that bracket modified is the way it should have been built by QP
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The way you've got that bracket modified is the way it should have been built by QP
I get what they were after tho, to use stock style torque arm systems with the long thru bolts. Better compatibility. Else they could have made their own trq arm to go with the rear end like midwest does. But thats abit more money
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I get what they were after tho, to use stock style torque arm systems with the long thru bolts. Better compatibility. Else they could have made their own trq arm to go with the rear end like midwest does. But thats abit more money
Yea I get that too and maybe they work great with a stock TA but using that bracket with any other arm is asking for problems. I think I tried 3 different brand TA's when I had mine for that very short period. Only way I could get it to fit was to move the whole rear end way over towards the passenger side or cut the floor to make it fit better. Decided to sell it off and go Midwest
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