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Old 11-13-2011, 06:00 PM
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454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

just wondering what flywheel and what clutch linkage to use for this swap? seem a lot of guys ask this question but theres no definite answer? the t56 is from an lt1 car complete and the 454 is from an 86 k30

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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

okay so my understanding is it has to be a 153 tooth flywheel for a 2 pc rear main seal engine?? then just use a balance plate or something?

so let me know what you guys think about using this flywheel:
RAM Automotive 1510-12

with this balance plate:

Summit Racing SES-3-60-11-026

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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

Everything about the T-56 will bolt RIGHT UP to the 454; given the correct flywheel.

Don't know what the specific part #s you posted are; but if they're a neutral-balanced 12.8" 2-pc RMS T-56 "conversion" flywheel and a 454 "pork chop", then yes it should work.
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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

The balance plate option can lead to issues with clutch release where the fork hits the pressure plate before the clutch releases.

Centerforce doesn't list all their available flywheels on their site, nor catalog so it's worth a few phone calls to them and other vendors to see what 454-balance compatible flywheels are out there but not on the internet.
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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

okay gotcha. yeah i figured that balance plate could pose an issue in there since its tight already.. i'll give a few companies a call tomorrow and see what they have .
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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

can i use some type of internal throw out bearing with a standard push style clutch?? thats the way my t5 is setup behind my factory 454 in my camaro
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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

If your going to use a factory pull style LT-1 clutch then McLeod Clutches has a Pull Style flywheel for a 2pc rear seal motor. P/N 460370-3C for a 86 external balanced 454.
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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

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can i use some type of internal throw out bearing with a standard push style clutch?? thats the way my t5 is setup behind my factory 454 in my camaro
Sure. A couple things though.

The o.d. of the throwout bearing sleeve is smaller o.d. than a T5/T10/Muncie so you'll need to make sure it's the right size i.d. (Some sellers assume it'll just fit.)

The first one McLeod sold was thicker than the distance from the pressure plate fingers (of a third gen clutch) to the base of the throwout bearing sleeve at the front of the trans. I believe they revised theirs and there's 1 or 2 others out there. So do your research and measuring.
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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

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Sure. A couple things though.

The o.d. of the throwout bearing sleeve is smaller o.d. than a T5/T10/Muncie so you'll need to make sure it's the right size i.d. (Some sellers assume it'll just fit.)

The first one McLeod sold was thicker than the distance from the pressure plate fingers (of a third gen clutch) to the base of the throwout bearing sleeve at the front of the trans. I believe they revised theirs and there's 1 or 2 others out there. So do your research and measuring.
okay who even make an internal throw out for the t56?? and what flywheel and clutch could i run then??
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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

Originally Posted by 1 DwnCam
If your going to use a factory pull style LT-1 clutch then McLeod Clutches has a Pull Style flywheel for a 2pc rear seal motor. P/N 460370-3C for a 86 external balanced 454.
it seems when i looked this part number up on summit it said it was for an internally balanced engine??


oops i lied lol it is for an externally balanced engine!! my fault!

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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-78140/

I'm curious about this too. I've tried looking up info on it and converting to it, but can't find much
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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

Originally Posted by breynolds
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-78140/

I'm curious about this too. I've tried looking up info on it and converting to it, but can't find much
i called mcleod and that flywheel posted above is the one you want. its for a 454 to bolt to the t56 using factory t56 clutch stuff. externally balanced 153 tooth.
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Re: 454 to t56 flywheel and clutch setup?

Originally Posted by breynolds
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-78140/

I'm curious about this too. I've tried looking up info on it and converting to it, but can't find much
and just if yall were wondering i'll be sure to post pics of this entire swap into my 87 trans am!
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