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Old 09-09-2002, 12:33 PM
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Car: 92' RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: Probuilt 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9-bolt
After Transgo install, Problems

Well things just don't seem to be working out for me with this kit.
I went and test drove the car and it will not shift into 1st gear with any
more than maybe 1/4 throttle. It will bassically start out in second, no
sighn of first.
It will go into first if I put the slector into 1, if I floor it then it
hesitates for a half second then burns rubber. But before I put the kit in
the tires would be roasting before I could get pedal to the floor.
When it was in drive and I let it cost to 20 MPH and floored it the tired
would bark and then go into second. So that it seemed like it would go into
1st gear for a split second and then go right to 2nd gear.
OK, last problem, when I was coasting in OD, it would pulsate back and forth
and the RPMs would vary about 150 RPM every second up and down.
OK all that said, my guess about the problem into 1st gear is that there is
too much pressure and it is already so high it just goes right into second.
When I took the 1-2 accumulaor off the was one spring on top of the piston
but no spring in the accumulator between the housing and the piston. So I
put the 2 washers and the blue sping in, then the piston then the black
spring, so that 2 spings and 2 washers replaced where there was once only 1
spring.
Also, and I should have mentoned this before, when I took it apart there was
a gold checkball in the pan that I drained the ATF into but there was no
mention about any in the video or the instructions so I assumed it did not go
back in. Was this supposed to go back in and where?

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Old 09-09-2002, 04:47 PM
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The gold ball can be left out. Did you do anyhting to the governor?
It sounds like a possible t.v. problem.
Old 09-09-2002, 04:54 PM
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No I did standard install and did not do the stick shift option so I left the govenor untouched.
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You might need to take it back apart and re-check everything.
Old 09-09-2002, 06:37 PM
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Car: 92' RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: Probuilt 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9-bolt
Test Drive #2

well I knew I'd be taking it apart again
I just drove it again to confirm all that was happening. The car will not go into first with anymore than 1/4 throttle any less and it works fine.
Also when I did control it manually from 1 to 2 the shift was very soft, I mean softer than any luxury car I've ever driven. It took a good 2 seconds before 2nd would fully engage, when I did this before the shift was solid and I could usually chirp the tires by doing it.

I checked into a new valve body, $350
I guess I should have left well enough alone.
I hope my rear axle install goes better than this
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I'm sure what all this consisted of. Its not the reprogramming kit like i'm used to, so I don't know what all you did. I would take it back out and retrace EVERY step and double check it.
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Car: 92' RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: Probuilt 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9-bolt
How many kits are there? Did I get the wrong one?

What it consisted of was replacing the TV boost valve,
dilling a hole in the valve body into the 'bathtun partition
springs and valve in the TV plunger.
new spring in line bias
3-2 control valve and spring
drilled and plugged a few holes in the sperator plate
pluged hole at top of 4th accumulator
2 tappered bushings at back of trans
then the 1-2 accumulator sping and added 2 springs and washers
I was supposed to change the servo piston but my piston cover is seized solid. I was going to try to work it lose over time and do it later

I know its hard to diagnose it from a description and I will go over it all again I was just hoping someone could give me a hint
ex. sounds like a checkball is in the wrong place or sounds like a stuck valve.

Whatever controls the transmission to go into second gear is where the problem lies, the pressure is getting to high at heavy throtle. All the other up and down shifts feel fine. If its the same when I check it all and put it back together I'll reopen it and undo the changes to the 2nd accumulator. There was so much tension on the thing putting it in. I'm guessing that there was only supposed to be 1 spring in it. On the instructions it said discard the origional springs, plural, in the movie they said discard origional sping, singular.
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Are you the guy who said you were trying to remove the servo cover with a tire iron in a different post?
The servo under that cover controls the 1-2 shift and if it gets jammed in sideways it might cause it to bind up.
The 1-2 accumulator springs being tight would only make the 1-2 shift more firm. If the seal for this accumulator got damaged it could cause a bad 1-2 shift. That doesn't explain the other problems though, sounds like something wrong in the tv.
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Yeah I was using a tire iron to try and move the cover in. I was mearly using it as some leverage, to push the cover in. I did not hit it with the iron, as tempted as I was There is NO way it got sideways because it never came out, because the cover is seized against the snap ring.

If the 1-2 accumulator was not fully sealed, if my bolts were not tight enough, could that cause the tramsmission to shift prematurely out of 1st?
The tension from the springs and the washers was so tight I wasn't certain if I was overtightening the bolts or if I was still fighting the springs.[
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