TPI Tuned Port Injection discussion and questions. LB9 and L98 tech, porting, tuning, and bolt-on aftermarket products.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

converting a v6 mpfi harness to tpi

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-03-2003, 02:46 PM
  #1  
Member

Thread Starter
 
Chris 84TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Poteau, OK, USA - Age: 44 - AKA 84TAVeRT
Posts: 361
Received 57 Likes on 45 Posts
Car: 1984 Trans Am Convertible
Engine: 355
Transmission: WCT5
Axle/Gears: 3.73
converting a v6 mpfi harness to tpi

can the v6 harness be modified to be used with tpi...

what sensors do i need to make the tpi work... and where can i get the plugs for the injectors... only have 6 on the v6 harness...

my racecar project might be getting a 90-92 speed density setup... if i can get the wiring and sensors all lined out...

thanks,
Chris
Old 11-03-2003, 03:09 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

 
bigals87z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Ocean, NJ
Posts: 4,456
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: Check The Sig
im gunna say no just because you would be lacking 2 more injectors in the harness along with a few other things. I belive that 3.1's have a digital or electronic egr valve where teh v-8's have a vaccume operated one.
Old 11-03-2003, 03:17 PM
  #3  
TGO Supporter

 
jwscab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: NJ/PA
Posts: 1,008
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Yes
Engine: Many
Transmission: Quite a few
anything is possible......if you can solder or crimp wires, you can make a v-6 harness into a v-8 harness. the connectors for the injectors are available in a few places, MSD makes em, you can get em in Jegs or summit, but the cheapest place to get em is in a u-pull-it junkyard......on other FWD v-6 cars....for that matter, just about every connector you need you can get there, and pretty much for nothing....and if you do need new connectors, usually pep boys etc, will have TPS, MAP, CTS connectors. Hope that helps.
Old 11-03-2003, 04:20 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member
 
Ed Maher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Manassas VA
Posts: 3,197
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Car: 04 GTO
Engine: LS1
Transmission: M12 T56
Any EFI thirdgen harness can be converted to another engine / ECM without too much work. Depending on what to what, you might need to change / add a few things, but the basic stuff is all the same. TPS, O2, 2 injector fused feeds, CTS, IAT, etc. You can reuse MAF wiring as MAP wiring, run a new wire knock sensor for a memcal based ESC module if going to a '730 for example.

Specifically how to do it? Start with a copy of the wiring diagram of what you have, and what you want to go to. Note similarities and go from there. Good planning is the key.
Old 12-09-2003, 06:48 PM
  #5  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
92rs85berlintta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: check under the car
Posts: 1,143
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: White 25th Anniversary RS
Engine: lt1
Transmission: t56
Axle/Gears: 4:10
any updates on this? i have a speed density v6 harness that i want to make into tpi v8 ive been going though my pinouts of both of them and it looks as if the only thing thats different is the v6 harness only needs two injector wires to be added and the egr is digital(havent figured that one out yet)probraly need the egr system off a tpi engine then the memcal needs to be from a v8 of course.

Last edited by 92rs85berlintta; 12-09-2003 at 08:34 PM.
Old 12-10-2003, 08:46 PM
  #6  
Junior Member
 
novakm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yup, been there, done that. Wouldn't do it again.

some wires need to be shortened, others lengthened. they are grouped together wrong too so they get all tangled. Basically, I ended up making a new V8 harness using parts from a couple of V6 harnesses. took me about 10-12 hours to get it right.
Old 12-12-2003, 07:21 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
ss85tadude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: NorthEast GA
Posts: 528
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 85 Trans Am
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700-R4
Why don't you buy a new or used v8 harness?
Old 12-12-2003, 10:35 AM
  #8  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
92rs85berlintta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: check under the car
Posts: 1,143
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: White 25th Anniversary RS
Engine: lt1
Transmission: t56
Axle/Gears: 4:10
harnesses for tpi run a high dollar and if you already have a v6 one its cheaper... did you have any problims with the connectors not being right?
Old 12-13-2003, 12:00 AM
  #9  
Junior Member
 
novakm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I managed to get all the connector I needed, but nat all were used for the same thing for the V6 vs V8. For example, there is no distributor on the V6, but there was a connector on the harness that worked for the distributor on the V8.
Old 12-13-2003, 11:57 AM
  #10  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
92rs85berlintta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: check under the car
Posts: 1,143
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: White 25th Anniversary RS
Engine: lt1
Transmission: t56
Axle/Gears: 4:10
what was to long and what was too short?
Old 12-13-2003, 06:40 PM
  #11  
Moderator

iTrader: (1)
 
RBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chasing Electrons
Posts: 18,404
Likes: 0
Received 216 Likes on 202 Posts
Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check
Thirdgen V6's use a distributor.

RBob.
Old 12-14-2003, 09:31 AM
  #12  
Junior Member
 
novakm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
OK, I just figured out why it was so much more work what I expected. I did not get the harness from a thirdgen, I got it from a front drive V6.

Old 12-16-2003, 07:03 PM
  #13  
Supreme Member
 
Ed Maher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Manassas VA
Posts: 3,197
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Car: 04 GTO
Engine: LS1
Transmission: M12 T56
Oh. If you're swapping a harness in, unless you're a masochist you'd want to start with a TPI harness.

I thought you meant you were converting a V6 MPFI car to TPI. In which case there's so much work in seperating the engine and internal harness that it washes out IMO with any work extending a few wires and running a new knock sensor wire. It's a question of how much of the stock wiring do you want to disturb, and i prefer to err towards leaving it alone
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FormulasOnly
TPI
95
07-23-2018 08:47 AM
2012sergen11
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Wanted
6
10-13-2015 07:38 PM
loud91rs
Camaros for Sale
7
10-05-2015 10:05 PM
customblackbird
Power Adders
71
10-01-2015 04:30 PM
89fast5oh
Exhaust
2
09-08-2015 09:55 AM



Quick Reply: converting a v6 mpfi harness to tpi



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:58 PM.