Fast cheap Tpi unit for all 3rds
10-07-2003, 02:57 AM
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OK...I gotta know...do you already have an 11 second 305 or are you predicting an 11 second 305? If the former, what are your mods? Also, wouldn't an intake/ heads swap kinda negate that whole "stock" part of "fastest stock 305"? Just wonderin'.
10-07-2003, 03:05 AM
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hehe, yea. If you put anything on the engine (or take anything off) or change the engine from the way it came form the factory, it ain't stock 
what year truck did the intake come off of? I had a 1997 GMC with a vortec engine, and i remember just a normal TBI setup on the top.
what year truck did the intake come off of? I had a 1997 GMC with a vortec engine, and i remember just a normal TBI setup on the top.
10-07-2003, 03:12 PM
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Re: Fast cheap Tpi unit for all 3rds
Originally posted by fast86
I am HOPING that I will have the fastest stock 305 in the state.
The state.
Also have true dual 3 inch flowmaster sidepipes! ITs rearly loud.
Shane
I am HOPING that I will have the fastest stock 305 in the state.
The state.
Also have true dual 3 inch flowmaster sidepipes! ITs rearly loud.
Shane
All you have to do is come to Byron Dragway and see if you can take the title.
10-07-2003, 04:03 PM
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Stock cam
Here is what I did. I beleive the stock compressions is 9.6 with 74cc heads on my 305. Changeing to the vortex head with 64 cc heads raised comprsion to 10.5 to 1.
Witch is perfect compression for those effent heart shaped chamers in the vortex head.
These heads are used with 30000 miles on them and noting other then that done to them.
I used the stock Vortex Truck motor fuel injection intake. This thing I beleive is a 2002. It really looks like a Ram Jet styled intake. And has one ls1 type of big *** throttle body. It even cam with 24 pound injectors.
I put this stuff on and modifed my linkages. Changed to 1/5/8 heads.
And I made a custom true dual flomaster exhasut. It basicly exits like a side pipes do.
It is untuned and my freind used a Gteched it. It was at 460 horse!
The secret is you Need those true dual 3inch pipes. Before I didnt put them on the car would only go to 5400 rpms. I changed the exhast and headers. The car revs to 8000!
Note I also cut a hole in the hood and but a kn outside my hood on a pipe. That moded really helped.
Note I heard If I put in a cam I should hit 500 hp.
Note I bought the car and these mods where done for less then 600 dollars!
I Am shooting for the record for na 305 is 13.2. And I will do it without slicks or drag radiel. That proves to you all how MUCH faster my car is.
I just can't understand why you all are upgrading to 350 and 383s when the 305s are powerfuly engines that you can modify for cheaply.
If someone wants I can post a pics of it. I just need webspace.
Here is what I did. I beleive the stock compressions is 9.6 with 74cc heads on my 305. Changeing to the vortex head with 64 cc heads raised comprsion to 10.5 to 1.
Witch is perfect compression for those effent heart shaped chamers in the vortex head.
These heads are used with 30000 miles on them and noting other then that done to them.
I used the stock Vortex Truck motor fuel injection intake. This thing I beleive is a 2002. It really looks like a Ram Jet styled intake. And has one ls1 type of big *** throttle body. It even cam with 24 pound injectors.
I put this stuff on and modifed my linkages. Changed to 1/5/8 heads.
And I made a custom true dual flomaster exhasut. It basicly exits like a side pipes do.
It is untuned and my freind used a Gteched it. It was at 460 horse!
The secret is you Need those true dual 3inch pipes. Before I didnt put them on the car would only go to 5400 rpms. I changed the exhast and headers. The car revs to 8000!
Note I also cut a hole in the hood and but a kn outside my hood on a pipe. That moded really helped.
Note I heard If I put in a cam I should hit 500 hp.
Note I bought the car and these mods where done for less then 600 dollars!
I Am shooting for the record for na 305 is 13.2. And I will do it without slicks or drag radiel. That proves to you all how MUCH faster my car is.
I just can't understand why you all are upgrading to 350 and 383s when the 305s are powerfuly engines that you can modify for cheaply.
If someone wants I can post a pics of it. I just need webspace.
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10-07-2003, 04:16 PM
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I'll host them, send them to webmaster@danielbuck.net
I'm interested to see this! But I'm having a hard time swallowing a 460 horse 305 with only vortec heads and a new intake
You going to hit a drag strip soon? or a real dyno? I'm interested to see what it can really do.
I'm interested to see this! But I'm having a hard time swallowing a 460 horse 305 with only vortec heads and a new intake
You going to hit a drag strip soon? or a real dyno? I'm interested to see what it can really do.
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10-07-2003, 04:33 PM
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Fast86, most of the Madison crew is going to Byron on saturday, but unfortunately I can't go. I will be with the cponygo.com crew at Union Grove on saturday the 18th. I am very interested in seeing why I should have kept the 305 in my 86 IROC. I'm not talking smack here, I just would like to witness a 460hp NA 305. Union Grove is not too far from Schaumburg.
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10-07-2003, 04:36 PM
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I sent the pics to you. Know what is the website address where everyone can view the pics.
Thanks for the invite. I would love to meet up with fellow 3rd geners.
Note this weekend is booked for me. But what about next weekend?
Shane
Thanks for the invite. I would love to meet up with fellow 3rd geners.
Note this weekend is booked for me. But what about next weekend?
Shane
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10-07-2003, 05:02 PM
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spelling is good mmmkay....
a 500 hp N/A 305??
You are NOT going to get 460 horse N/A out of unworked vortec heads on a 305....I don't give a damn what intake you're running...it isn't happening....
a 500 hp N/A 305??
You are NOT going to get 460 horse N/A out of unworked vortec heads on a 305....I don't give a damn what intake you're running...it isn't happening....
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10-07-2003, 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by fly89gta
spelling is good mmmkay....
a 500 hp N/A 305??
You are NOT going to get 460 horse N/A out of unworked vortec heads on a 305....I don't give a damn what intake you're running...it isn't happening....
spelling is good mmmkay....
a 500 hp N/A 305??
You are NOT going to get 460 horse N/A out of unworked vortec heads on a 305....I don't give a damn what intake you're running...it isn't happening....
10-07-2003, 05:21 PM
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Freinds don't let freinds waste there money on 350 or 383s.
Buty cheap power Vortex 305 style!
I will have a faster car then most people spending thosands on there cars.
Why cannt it make that power Hotrod did a 305 vortex swap and cams, header, intake, it put out close to 460 horse! They said they where supprised at how good an 305 can do with the right side of heads.
I see mild vortex 355 running 11.s Why cant I?
Shane
Buty cheap power Vortex 305 style!
I will have a faster car then most people spending thosands on there cars.
Why cannt it make that power Hotrod did a 305 vortex swap and cams, header, intake, it put out close to 460 horse! They said they where supprised at how good an 305 can do with the right side of heads.
I see mild vortex 355 running 11.s Why cant I?
Shane
10-07-2003, 05:39 PM
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show some numbers on a time slip or dyno chart, and we will believe you. Otherwise, it's like saying you have a lawn mower that will do 55 by just hacking off the muffler and sticking a K&N on it.
No offense, but it's just a little bit to far fetched to be believable with out hard proof.
I send you an email with the links, but I guess you havn't recieved it yet.
here they are:
No offense, but it's just a little bit to far fetched to be believable with out hard proof.
I send you an email with the links, but I guess you havn't recieved it yet.
here they are:
10-07-2003, 05:56 PM
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um, how does he even get out of the driveway with how low those sidepipes are? bottom out much?
my magazine can beat your magazine.
the proof is in the running, Fast. put it on the dragstrip or on the dyno. magazines show the best case scenario, after months of pounding out the numbers - and they don't show you the mistakes and errors they encountered along the way, just those magic "high output" numbers.
p.s. i just saw the zf6 454 on ebay. what a chump.
my magazine can beat your magazine.
the proof is in the running, Fast. put it on the dragstrip or on the dyno. magazines show the best case scenario, after months of pounding out the numbers - and they don't show you the mistakes and errors they encountered along the way, just those magic "high output" numbers.
p.s. i just saw the zf6 454 on ebay. what a chump.
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So are you selling your car? Because its for sale right here on ebay. 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6427
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6427
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thanks for the input guys. This is a race car and I drove over 300 milles without hitting the exhaust. Its pretty loud so I might make a custom 3 inch back to the rear and I want one of those custom LT1 style air intake hoods.
I am telling you all this is not bs. And I will run a few time slips on street tires. Its hard to get to 12's without slicks in any viechle but I will see how I do.
Does anyone make a true dual 3 inch exhausts?
Shane
I am telling you all this is not bs. And I will run a few time slips on street tires. Its hard to get to 12's without slicks in any viechle but I will see how I do.
Does anyone make a true dual 3 inch exhausts?
Shane
10-07-2003, 06:06 PM
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All the Chevy 305's I am aware of utilize 58cc combustion chambers. So unless you had Chevy 350 heads on that motor to start with, you saw a compression decrease...probably on the order of 1 point or so (guessing...too lazy to calculate it). Chevy 350 Vortec heads have to be milled to the equivalent 5X cc to retain the 9.X compression they came with. Chevy Vortec 350 heads are normally about a 20-40 horse bolt on but if you saw AT LEAST a point of decrease in the compression, take away about 10-15 horses. That negates a big chunk of what would be added had the compression ratio stayed the same.
On another note, what issue was that Hot Rod 305 buildup? I have had a subscription for the past 3 or 4 years but I guess I missed that one (perfectly possible I admit...I am busy). I DID see a Car Craft buildup on a 305 using Chevy 350 Vortec heads milled to prevent compression loss and utilizing a Comp 262 cam, Edelbrock Performer, Performer RPM, and Victor intakes (they compared all three).....the best they could wring out of it was 325 horse at the crank.
On another note, what issue was that Hot Rod 305 buildup? I have had a subscription for the past 3 or 4 years but I guess I missed that one (perfectly possible I admit...I am busy). I DID see a Car Craft buildup on a 305 using Chevy 350 Vortec heads milled to prevent compression loss and utilizing a Comp 262 cam, Edelbrock Performer, Performer RPM, and Victor intakes (they compared all three).....the best they could wring out of it was 325 horse at the crank.
10-07-2003, 06:09 PM
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selling the car, eh? haha!
looks like it has a 454... I guess you didn't mention that you bored out the 305?
go back to Jr. High, where you belong. (scooters are much saver for you)
looks like it has a 454... I guess you didn't mention that you bored out the 305?
go back to Jr. High, where you belong. (scooters are much saver for you)
10-07-2003, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by 88 WS6 TransAm GTA
So are you selling your car? Because its for sale right here on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6427
So are you selling your car? Because its for sale right here on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6427
10-07-2003, 06:39 PM
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I just can't understand why you all are upgrading to 350 and 383s when the 305s are powerfuly engines that you can modify for cheaply.
I just can't understand why you all are upgrading to 350 and 383s when the 305s are powerfuly engines that you can modify for cheaply.
10-07-2003, 07:08 PM
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First off the latest generation "Vortec" intakes are like the lS1s and they won't bolt up the 96-99 Vortec (#906 or#062) 350 heads that he's talking about. He is using misinformation to post this. The new Vortec engines are the 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0 litres engines with the LS1 style heads and intakes, not the previous generation SBC
Secondly....there is no replacement for displacement...simple as that. For every dollar you spend on a 305 you'll get more power out of a 350 or 383 or 406++++
There is nothing wrong with building up a 305...your choice, but this statement
just proves to everyone you don't have a clue about what you are saying.
Secondly....there is no replacement for displacement...simple as that. For every dollar you spend on a 305 you'll get more power out of a 350 or 383 or 406++++
There is nothing wrong with building up a 305...your choice, but this statement
Freinds don't let freinds waste there money on 350 or 383s. I will have a faster car then most people spending thosands on there cars.
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yea, I'm still trying to convince people to stop using blinker fluid, water will perform alot better! (and it's lighter as well!)
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yea, I'm still trying to convince people to stop using blinker fluid, water will perform alot better! (and it's lighter as well!)
yea, I'm still trying to convince people to stop using blinker fluid, water will perform alot better! (and it's lighter as well!)
I even had a friend one time who ran water instead and it burned his car to the ground because he left the hazards on for six hours.
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Lest you think that this is the only amusing thread our young friend has been involved with....
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=204589
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=204589
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Or this one: https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...64#post1510564
Thread content: What intake pic was originally posted? Let me guess...the Vortex 305 (of a truck 350) that looks like a Miniram? As crazy as it sounds, I think I am actually starting to understand this guy
And No...I don't speak French
Thread content: What intake pic was originally posted? Let me guess...the Vortex 305 (of a truck 350) that looks like a Miniram? As crazy as it sounds, I think I am actually starting to understand this guy
And No...I don't speak French
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Just to close out a bet here, Fast86 when you were in grade school (assuming you're not still there) did you ride the big bus or the "little" bus?
I guess either:
a.) that first trip to the dragstrip is going to be a real education, or
b.) a previous owner dropped a 383 in it and forgot to mention it when it was sold
I guess either:
a.) that first trip to the dragstrip is going to be a real education, or
b.) a previous owner dropped a 383 in it and forgot to mention it when it was sold
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Originally posted by rezinn
88TPI406GTA, I envy you for getting to those posts before me. I think this guy is pretending to be an idiot. No one could be that stupid.
88TPI406GTA, I envy you for getting to those posts before me. I think this guy is pretending to be an idiot. No one could be that stupid.
Didnt Forest Gump say.... Stupid as stupid does" ????
And yes....this is a true story.
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dont pay any attention to the troll under the bridge. Let him do his little thing. 76 cc chamber head on a 305? I think my compression ratio would be negative with that big of a chamber hehehehe
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Back in 2001 he had a 383 and wanted to hang a turbo off it...
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...threadid=36735
But now he just bought his first third gen and it has a 305...
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=204589
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...threadid=36735
But now he just bought his first third gen and it has a 305...
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=204589
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What the F*** is wrong with this kid??? Please stop him before he breeds! He is using our third gens names in vein, killl it before it grows!
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look out everyone, he might break out his 850hp geo metro and do a driveby with the .50 cal mounted on top! I think the government should pay for his vasectomy, all we need is people like him to breed
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He has an 850hp geo metro too?
Man, I thought I was original, I guess I better swap the 50 cal for a 40mm grenade launcher.
Man, I thought I was original, I guess I better swap the 50 cal for a 40mm grenade launcher.
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