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is there a difference between...
a 89 corvette tpi 350 engine or a 89 camaro tpi 350 engine.
im wondering that because my car supposedly has a 89 corvette tpi 350. and i have no clue what the hp an trq. thanks ahead of time
im wondering that because my car supposedly has a 89 corvette tpi 350. and i have no clue what the hp an trq. thanks ahead of time
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Car: 87 aniv vert, 90 Iroc, 87 LT
Engine: LB9, LB9, carbed 305
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If you have a stock l98 in a camaro, you dont have aluminum heads.
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Car: 1990 Iroc-Z
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
How much more hp/tq did the vette alum. heads give over our iron-headed l98?
true that - try the magnet thing. sounds plausible.
true that - try the magnet thing. sounds plausible.
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When L98s were 1st put in the Corvette, several came with Iron heads. So that isn't a sure fire way to tell. You need to get the casting numbers, and then check them. www.mortec.com is a good place to find casting numbers.
Edit: Didn't read properly. Gotta stop being in such a rush89 TPI Corvette would be aluminum heads.
Still a good idea to check casting number
Edit: Didn't read properly. Gotta stop being in such a rush89 TPI Corvette would be aluminum heads.
Still a good idea to check casting number
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Car: 1990 Iroc-Z
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
I ran a quick check up on vette specs and I am surprised to see that the aluminum headed L98's produced a suprising NOTHING GAIN over iron headed L98's. What the dilly yo?
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Originally posted by D Stroy H8
I ran a quick check up on vette specs and I am surprised to see that the aluminum headed L98's produced a suprising NOTHING GAIN over iron headed L98's. What the dilly yo?
I ran a quick check up on vette specs and I am surprised to see that the aluminum headed L98's produced a suprising NOTHING GAIN over iron headed L98's. What the dilly yo?
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Car: 1990 Iroc-Z
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
Originally posted by JimmyG-91Z
Well what I was told was that because aluminum transfers heat better then iron, that you lose the extra power that the heads will make.
Well what I was told was that because aluminum transfers heat better then iron, that you lose the extra power that the heads will make.
So - to put it simply, the vette heads werent meant for power increase but rather power hang time?
I can see that.
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All things being equal, the iron heads will make more power. Aluminum heads usually have better casting though. Additionally, to make up for the heat loss, the compression is bumped (the al. heads are milled). The aluminum heads are less prone to detonation, and can handle the extra compression.
The Vettes had a slightly better cam than firebirds/camaros.
The Vettes had a slightly better cam than firebirds/camaros.
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Car: 1990 Iroc-Z
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
Ok - so if the Vettes had better compression with the Alum heads, and a better cam... how come they the power specs were exactly the same?
It seems to me kind of the like the Grand Am GTs w/ ram air - and dual exit exhaust: same power specs as the Alero (same engine) yet the Alero comes stock with single outlet exhaust and no ram air.
Its a stretch given - but thats my point, what the hell do the aluminum heads and better cam do for the C4 L98 than the 3rdgen L98?
It seems to me kind of the like the Grand Am GTs w/ ram air - and dual exit exhaust: same power specs as the Alero (same engine) yet the Alero comes stock with single outlet exhaust and no ram air.
Its a stretch given - but thats my point, what the hell do the aluminum heads and better cam do for the C4 L98 than the 3rdgen L98?
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Please direct me to what specs you are reffering to, or write them here. However, Stock Vette vs Stock Cam/Fire the stock vette L98 outperforms and makes more power. I don't care what any specs say. Better compression, better cam, better air intake, better exhaust. A couple of examples of specs...The 89 Turbo Trans Ams make 300 hp at the rear wheels, but specs say only ~245 bhp. The new firebirds and Camaros say ~320 bhp...and realistically are making that much at the rear wheels in some cases.
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Car: 1990 Iroc-Z
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
Oh I realize that specs can be a little, shall we say, omitting.
However, why on earth would Chevy (GM) rate both cars the same as far as factory claim goes? Surely, Chevy would want the Vette's published numbers to be one upping the F-Bodies wouldnt they?
lemme go grab a link or two and show you bro =)
However, why on earth would Chevy (GM) rate both cars the same as far as factory claim goes? Surely, Chevy would want the Vette's published numbers to be one upping the F-Bodies wouldnt they?
lemme go grab a link or two and show you bro =)
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Car: 1990 Iroc-Z
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
Originally posted by Little GTA
Please direct me to what specs you are reffering to, or write them here. However, Stock Vette vs Stock Cam/Fire the stock vette L98 outperforms and makes more power.
Please direct me to what specs you are reffering to, or write them here. However, Stock Vette vs Stock Cam/Fire the stock vette L98 outperforms and makes more power.
http://www.ifrance.com/accf-sprtcar/.../specs/90.html
http://www.neptune.k12.nj.us/nhs/his...ette/1990.html
http://www.corvettetrader.com/vettestats/1990specs.htm
3 sources (and more im sure however i think 3 is sufficient) all say 245hp/345tq - now i ask, what are the better parts doing?
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1990 GTA specs:
235 hp @ 4400 rpm / 340 ft/lb @ 3400 rpm
From www.gtasourcepage.com
This is also accurate according to info I have on my GTA
I believe the 1990 IROC/TA specs in the tech data of this site are wrong. Usually the Camaro is about 5 hp higher due to better air induction system, and should read 240hp.
235 hp @ 4400 rpm / 340 ft/lb @ 3400 rpm
From www.gtasourcepage.com
This is also accurate according to info I have on my GTA
I believe the 1990 IROC/TA specs in the tech data of this site are wrong. Usually the Camaro is about 5 hp higher due to better air induction system, and should read 240hp.
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Car: 1990 Iroc-Z
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
Ok so all things final -
the vettes "better {intak, exhaust, heads, cam}" only make 5 more horses than the 3rdgen L98? Seems illogical to me but oh well ...
the vettes "better {intak, exhaust, heads, cam}" only make 5 more horses than the 3rdgen L98? Seems illogical to me but oh well ...
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Car: 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: L98
Transmission: T-56
the 350 tpi in our cars is sometimes referred to as a corvette motor because of its origins in the vette. it was first introduced on those cars.
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The right way to distinguish a Vette L98 over a f-body L98 is to look for a EGR crossover pipe on the passenger side of the intake manifold. It extends over the rear of the valve cover.
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Originally posted by IROC57TPI
The right way to distinguish a Vette L98 over a f-body L98 is to look for a EGR crossover pipe on the passenger side of the intake manifold. It extends over the rear of the valve cover.
The right way to distinguish a Vette L98 over a f-body L98 is to look for a EGR crossover pipe on the passenger side of the intake manifold. It extends over the rear of the valve cover.
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Originally posted by fly89gta
ding ding ding ding we have a winner, that's a damn good sign of whether or not you have aluminum vette heads...
ding ding ding ding we have a winner, that's a damn good sign of whether or not you have aluminum vette heads...
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Engine: a bunch of pieces
Transmission: still there - very stockish TH700
Another difference between y/f body TPI - it's in the fuel rail;, fuel lines for Vette is on its opposite side
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Originally posted by z_power
Another difference between y/f body TPI - it's in the fuel rail;, fuel lines for Vette is on its opposite side
Another difference between y/f body TPI - it's in the fuel rail;, fuel lines for Vette is on its opposite side
Another way to tell is a y-body uses a big cap HEI, while f-bodies use small cap with external coils. The distributor can be swapped into an f-body.
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Originally posted by IROC57TPI
It would be obvious if you tried to swap a y-body engine into an f-body that the fuel rails won't work.
It would be obvious if you tried to swap a y-body engine into an f-body that the fuel rails won't work.
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