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Old 03-17-2020, 07:29 PM
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I just wanted to make my first post.
I am getting my Iroc out of hibernation after 20 yrs.
Just itching for good weather. It’s been to long.
Thanks to all the other members with all the help when other members are in need.
I will probably be one of those members every shortly. Lol
Black 85 with 14,000

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Old 03-17-2020, 09:39 PM
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u gotta have some pics stowed away somewhere?? let's see it!
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I have one pic hanging on my wall in my basement the day I picked it up at the dealership.
Other than that just when I pulled it out of the garage.

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Very nice. Welcome. Look forward to seeing more of that one. Hard to believe having a car like that with no pics though....
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Thanks, I have been busy with growing a family and just didn’t want to take time away from them. Now it’s my turn to have fun.
I will have more pics soon.
I see you have quite the built up Firebird.
Very nice ride. It looks like you have had some fun times getting it right where you wanted it.
Where are you located? I’m in Toronto.
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know exactly what yer saying, it took me as long as it did to build mine bc I chose to be with family whenever I could, and the only other way I would have done it would have been to spend ALL of the time I had with my kids. I'm out on the wet coast, too many people, not enuf neat old cars...
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Beautiful car, glad to see her back in the light of day! Where abouts in Toronto are you? There are some west end car shows that I and a few other Third Gen guys frequent in the summer. Hopefully your car will be driving again by then!
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Thanks, I think it’s time for a little run this weekend. Just doing a couple upgrades before a proper tune.
I’m in North York. Where are you located?
Are you currently running a Firebird?
it would be great to hook up. Just let me know.
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Thanks, I think it’s time for a little run this weekend. Just doing a couple upgrades before a proper tune.
I’m in North York. Where are you located?
Are you currently running a Firebird?
it would be great to hook up. Just let me know.
I was in Etobicoke but I'm in Waterdown now. I still frequent the shows out there though either with my cars or ones from work. Right now I just sold my Firebird but I'll have another Third Gen by the time the shows start up!
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Ya I saw your post on the 86 that you just sold.
So sad it wasn’t as clean as you where hoping.
It would have bees great project car. Are you still looking at that GTA?
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Welcome to the Thirdgen community Bull333. That's a nice IROC you've got there. Is your IROC a TPI 5.0L?

As RKeats said, there is a decent thirdgen community here in the GTA area (I was born in T.O, and I'm in Mississauga now). Would love to attend a Thirdgen (or otherwise) car meet once we're allowed to do so (hopefully in the summer).

RKeats, keep us posted on meets, and I'll try to attend, and meet more thirdgen fans, and geek out over some cool cars.
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Ya I saw your post on the 86 that you just sold.
So sad it wasn’t as clean as you where hoping.
It would have bees great project car. Are you still looking at that GTA?
There are 2 that I'm chewing on - a green 91' and the black 89'. Haven't seen either in person, but the rust pictures are keeping me hesitant on the 89'. The body and interior are beaaaautiful though and it's a 350 car with only 180xxxkm that's turn key and go, minus the rust. We'll see though, there are a few vehicles I plan on looking at this weekend.

Peter - I'll definitely keep you guys posted. There are a few Facebook pages for Southern Ontario, and one of them is planning a fairly large meet in May or so.
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Hey pp29 appreciate the welcome

ya 305 TPi 3.42. Nothing special on the third gen scope of things but it’s clean for 35 yr old.

Are you running 88 GTA?
Is see an Les swap?

I can’t wait to see all these amazing rides.
Pick a few brains at the same time.
Always looking for some good advice.

Any wisdom on returning my paint back to original will be appreciated.
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There are 2 that I'm chewing on - a green 91' and the black 89'. Haven't seen either in person, but the rust pictures are keeping me hesitant on the 89'. The body and interior are beaaaautiful though and it's a 350 car with only 180xxxkm that's turn key and go, minus the rust. We'll see though, there are a few vehicles I plan on looking at this weekend.

Peter - I'll definitely keep you guys posted. There are a few Facebook pages for Southern Ontario, and one of them is planning a fairly large meet in May or so.
May seems overly ambitious given the current state of things, but here's hoping, I just need to put my rims/ and tires back on, and put insurance back on, and my GTA will be good to go.
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I just realized you said 14,000km on your car, that's awesome! I want to see some more pictures, my IROC was a black 89' hardtop. I'd start with a good buff and wax on top of a heavy cleaning. It'll probably work wonders on original paint. After that, a full paint correction and some ceramic coating.. boy lemme tell ya ..
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Hey pp29 appreciate the welcome

ya 305 TPi 3.42. Nothing special on the third gen scope of things but it’s clean for 35 yr old.

Are you running 88 GTA?
Is see an Les swap?

I can’t wait to see all these amazing rides.
Pick a few brains at the same time.
Always looking for some good advice.

Any wisdom on returning my paint back to original will be appreciated.
That still sounds like a fun combo. Yep, I've got a 1988 GTA, started life out as a TPI350/ TH700R4, and I've successfully swapped in an LS1/ T56 out of a 99 Camaro that some fellas we're turning into a drag strip car. Made the car a lot more fun, and it's hurt quite a few feelings (in Markham especially lol) along the way. The thirdgen community is great, and my car wouldn't be half the car that it is today, without the knowledge gained here.
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I can second pg's car as being a hell of a lot more fun than a stock one. That thing ripped 80 in second gear down the service road behind my work
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I can second pg's car as being a hell of a lot more fun than a stock one. That thing ripped 80 in second gear down the service road behind my work
"All testing was done on a closed course by professionals. Please obey your local speed limits"
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I always love a black car.
So few Thirdgens available anymore.
I am assuming you want a Firebird right?
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I always love a black car.
So few Thirdgens available anymore.
I am assuming you want a Firebird right?
Preferably. My 91' GTA was my first love
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"All testing was done on a closed course by professionals. Please obey your local speed limits"
That road is our official "how fast can we get this Ferrari going before we hit the stop sign" road.. perfectly safe and legal of course
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Wow Ls/t56 that is the right setup for sure.
I love a sleeper car. Black as well?
Sure sounds like a good group.

Come on weather. WAKE UP!!!
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Lol. Gotta love good brakes.
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I just realized you said 14,000km on your car, that's awesome! I want to see some more pictures, my IROC was a black 89' hardtop. I'd start with a good buff and wax on top of a heavy cleaning. It'll probably work wonders on original paint. After that, a full paint correction and some ceramic coating.. boy lemme tell ya ..
14,000 miles. I couldn’t stand the 85 per hour speedo so changed to 140 mph California speedo. Never understood why GM would that think in that car.
I got meguiars #7 to start with Let that soak in for a bit to let the old paint see some moisture. Any help with color correction would be appreciated. I have no fading but the finish and a few paint chips.
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I'm also up for meeting some of you guys as well. Let me know when. I'm from Milton. Not far from Mississauga.
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I'm also up for meeting some of you guys as well. Let me know when. I'm from Milton. Not far from Mississauga.
I will be out in that area. My mechanic will be tuning soon. He’s in Milton.
Are you driving a 91 Z-28 I assume?
It would be great to check out ride.
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Wow Ls/t56 that is the right setup for sure.
I love a sleeper car. Black as well?
Sure sounds like a good group.
Come on weather. WAKE UP!!!
It sure is black as well.
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I'm also up for meeting some of you guys as well. Let me know when. I'm from Milton. Not far from Mississauga.
Sounds like we've got a nice Camaro/ Firebird meet brewing...
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I will be out in that area. My mechanic will be tuning soon. He’s in Milton.
Are you driving a 91 Z-28 I assume?
It would be great to check out ride.
Nice. where in Milton is your mechanic located?
Yes. I have my '91. Had her for almost 26 years
Your '85 is it Carb or TPI?
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SirReveller will chime in to this thread eventually. He's a Toronto member with a killer black IROC that scours Kijiji for nice Third Gen's almost as heavily as I do. We may be building ourselves a little summer third gen crew here fellas
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It sure is black as well.
Black on black with black rims Awesome.
And that’s a great good.
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Nice. where in Milton is your mechanic located?
Yes. I have my '91. Had her for almost 26 years
Your '85 is it Carb or TPI?
He has been my mechanic for about 25 years.
Yoshio. Moved to Milton about 10 yrs ago.
His expertise is in Japanese. But he is a tuner from the old days. So I’m going to have him install my ebl flash and do the tuning. More of a favour to me. I trust him no question.
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I’m having another mechanic down in Niagara’s on the lake doing my upgrades. Al done and picking it up tomorrow. It will be my first drive in it in over 25 yrs. I know I won’t sleep tonight.

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He has been my mechanic for about 25 years.
Yoshio. Moved to Milton about 10 yrs ago.
His expertise is in Japanese. But he is a tuner from the old days. So I’m going to have him install my ebl flash and do the tuning. More of a favour to me. I trust him no question.
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That shop is not that far from me. I'm at James Snow pkwy and the 401.
You're '85 is rare with the TPI. That was the first year for the TPI being available on Camaro/Trans am as an option.
Hope to meet you and your car.
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That shop is not that far from me. I'm at James Snow pkwy and the 401.
You're '85 is rare with the TPI. That was the first year for the TPI being available on Camaro/Trans am as an option.
Hope to meet you and your car.
ya he’s just off james snow I don’t know the address just how to drive there.

Maybe not so rare.
one of 205 made in 85.
Ee can maybe meet up when out in Milton next month.
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SirReveller will chime in to this thread eventually. He's a Toronto member with a killer black IROC that scours Kijiji for nice Third Gen's almost as heavily as I do. We may be building ourselves a little summer third gen crew here fellas

I see SirRellever quite the project coming along.
Another black beauty.
Is everyone waiting to see it?
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ya he’s just off james snow I don’t know the address just how to drive there.

Maybe not so rare.
one of 205 made in 85.
Ee can maybe meet up when out in Milton next month.
205 buyers checked off the TPI option is rare in my books.
That would be great. There is a hang out every Friday night at 2 locations. One in Vaughan (Highway # 7 and Martin Grove) at the Texas Pit and the other in Mississauga (Erin Mills Prkwy and the 401) at the Tim Hortons. I usually go to the one in Vaughan for a bit and then to the one in Mississauga.
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205 buyers checked off the TPI option is rare in my books.
That would be great. There is a hang out every Friday night at 2 locations. One in Vaughan (Highway # 7 and Martin Grove) at the Texas Pit and the other in Mississauga (Erin Mills Prkwy and the 401) at the Tim Hortons. I usually go to the one in Vaughan for a bit and then to the one in Mississauga.
I think of rare as 89 1Le a/c delete or a players challenge car.
When does this start?

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When does this start?
Sometime in May
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He has been my mechanic for about 25 years.
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Forgot to mention, enjoy your drive tomorrow. I am sure you are anxious. let us know on how it went.
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Forgot to mention, enjoy your drive tomorrow. I am sure you are anxious. let us know on how it went.
I will let you know how it went. I’ll send some pics as well.
Tell me what you have on your 91.
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I will let you know how it went. I’ll send some pics as well.
Tell me what you have on your 91.
It is mostly original, with the exception of the motor which was bored 30 over, has a mild cam, double roller timing chain, high flow oil pump, headers, intake runners, cat back exhaust. It has the G92 rpo. It's a great car to drive. I love it.
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It is mostly original, with the exception of the motor which was bored 30 over, has a mild cam, double roller timing chain, high flow oil pump, headers, intake runners, cat back exhaust. It has the G92 rpo. It's a great car to drive. I love it.
5.7 t56? How many kms? G92 nice.
Sounds like a great driver. Done just right.
What gear are you running?
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5.7 t56? How many kms? G92 nice.
Sounds like a great driver. Done just right.
What gear are you running?
It's the stock 5 liter, with factory 5 spd. It has the 3:42 posi which is part of the G92 package with 5 liter (the 5.7 liter had the 3.23 gears). The body has 150k, the motor has around 30k. The motor was done in 1999.
Tell me about yours?

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It's the stock 5 liter, with factory 5 spd. It has the 3:42 posi which is part of the G92 package with 5 liter (the 5.7 liter had the 3.23 gears).
Tell me about yours?
I have been torn on touching it because of the year and miles. Limited numbers and clean original owner car.
But I did do headers Y pipe flow through cat and 3” Magnaflow. These cars came original 4 wheel disc but I found them a little lacking so I upgrade front rear Wilwoods as big as would fit my stock rims .
Motor is stock and not to much to do on 5.0 to make the next step without devaluing the car so that’s where the tune comes in.
I figured the 85 had a slow baud rate ECM so the ebl flash i will get me the most out of the stock LB9.
I know cam and torque converter would be next but with no big hp gains I don’t want to get small gains and give up drivability.
Does that make sense?

One more question for everyone
With this setup what should I be looking at for transmission upgrade for my 700R4?
I assume is can be done pretty cheap and get a little better performance without losing reliability.
Much appreciated all your fead back.
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I have been torn on touching it because of the year and miles. Limited numbers and clean original owner car.
But I did do headers Y pipe flow through cat and 3” Magnaflow. These cars came original 4 wheel disc but I found them a little lacking so I upgrade front rear Wilwoods as big as would fit my stock rims .
Motor is stock and not to much to do on 5.0 to make the next step without devaluing the car so that’s where the tune comes in.
I figured the 85 had a slow baud rate ECM so the ebl flash i will get me the most out of the stock LB9.
I know cam and torque converter would be next but with no big hp gains I don’t want to get small gains and give up drivability.
Does that make sense?

One more question for everyone
With this setup what should I be looking at for transmission upgrade for my 700R4?
I assume is can be done pretty cheap and get a little better performance without losing reliability.
Much appreciated all your fead back.
I think a cam upgrade along with an upgraded torque converter, I think it would improve performance for that 305. you may also want to to upgrade to the stock steel driveshaft with an aluminum one. I have replaced mine with a 1le aluminum and it was such an improvement. No more vibrating at higher speeds and the rpms spooled quickly as it's less mass to rotate.

Are you thinking of replacing the auto with standard?
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I think a cam upgrade along with an upgraded torque converter, I think it would improve performance for that 305. you may also want to to upgrade to the stock steel driveshaft with an aluminum one. I have replaced mine with a 1le aluminum and it was such an improvement. No more vibrating at higher speeds and the rpms spooled quickly as it's less mass to rotate.

Are you thinking of replacing the auto with standard?
I was thinking about looking for a good deal on an aluminum drive shaft.
Still l not sure on cam and converter. Might need more convincing.
No I want to keep the auto trans. I wouldn’t change that unless I did a LS1 swap or something.
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[QUOTE=Bull333;6360229]I was thinking about looking for a good deal on an aluminum drive shaft.
Still l not sure on cam and converter. Might need more convincing.
No I want to keep the auto trans. I wouldn’t change that unless I did a LS1 swap or som

The driveshaft is good upgrade. I am sure you can find a reasonably priced one. Since you haven't driven it for many years, I would just leave it the way it is for now? I would not swap an ls1 into a fine, unmolested car like yours. Where abouts in toronto are you from?
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I was thinking about looking for a good deal on an aluminum drive shaft.
Still l not sure on cam and converter. Might need more convincing.
No I want to keep the auto trans. I wouldn’t change that unless I did a LS1 swap or som

The driveshaft is good upgrade. I am sure you can find a reasonably priced one. Since you haven't driven it for many years, I would just leave it the way it is for now? I would not swap an ls1 into a fine, unmolested car like yours. Where abouts in toronto are you from?
I put 150 miles on my car today.!
It was soooo nice to have it back on the road.

I’m in North York



This is what it looks like after sitting in storage for 25yr Can’t wait to wash it and detail the engine bay. But not bad considering.




Just broke over 14,093

You are right about waiting on the driveshaft.
I don’t want to get into it much more than the tune for this year anyway.
Car ran beautifully. New suspension felt nice and tight. Drove like a brand new car.
Exhaust is just right.

Everything works perfect except my back hatch release button and the rear hatch auxiliary light. Must be a fuse.

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I put 150 miles on my car today.!
It was soooo nice to have it back on the road.

I’m in North York



This is what it looks like after sitting in storage for 25yr Can’t wait to wash it and detail the engine bay. But not bad considering.




Just broke over 14,093

You are right about waiting on the driveshaft.
I don’t want to get into it much more than the tune for this year anyway.
Car ran beautifully. New suspension felt nice and tight. Drove like a brand new car.
Exhaust is just right.

Everything works perfect except my back hatch release button and the rear hatch auxiliary light. Must be a fuse.
Congratulations on your maiden voyage. I bet it put a big smile on your face and you probably said to yourself, why didn't I do this sooner. She looks very clean. I see the headers. What kind are they? Now seeing these pics on how pretty unmolested, I would leave it just as is. How do you like the magnaflow cat and muffler? I had to replace the dual cats on mine a couple of years ago as the originals called it quits and the originals are no longer available. I settled on the magnaflows. They are not bad at all.

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Congratulations on your maiden voyage. I bet it put a big smile on your face and you probably said to yourself, why didn't I do this sooner. She looks very clean. I see the headers. What kind are they? Now seeing these pics on how pretty unmolested, I would leave it just as is. How do you like the magnaflow cat and muffler? I had to replace the dual cats on mine a couple of years ago as the originals called it quits and the originals are no longer available. I settled on the magnaflows. They are not bad at all.
Thanks Yes I was smiling all day long.
Traffic was like back in the 60’s lol no one on the roads. Was kind of creepy.
It made lots of space for me 😎
Almost got creamed today when a lady ran a red and didn’t even see me she was so busy chatting with her friend. My son said that would have crazy on the first day out.
I did Doug’s headers. Fitment was excellent.
Ya I’m liking the Magnaflow. Sound is not to off stock on idle but really comes to life if you get in it. I’m hearing more now with the headers.
Paint restoration is the next challenge.




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