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Old 07-26-2001, 06:40 PM
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Who ususally initiates a street race, you or the other guy??

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Idealy, for me, I like it when the other guy initiates. I hate picking races because #1. If I beat him, I feel bad and tell myself I shouldn't have picked on someone slower than me.
#2 If I win, I've had people go balistic on me and try to take me off the road etc. cause i'm such a bully?
#3 If I lose, I feel like I was suckered into gettin my butt whooped.

but rarely does anyone initiate a race with me unless it is a POS truck or *****.
so I end up pickin most of my races anyway.



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I almost always have to jump first at a light. I think tis because my car is currentyly in ghetto mode. It looks slower than it is. But wait until I get my ground effects, wheels, paint, ram air hood, and spoiler. Then we will see who jumps first...

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People who know they're fast won't try to race me, but people who THINK they're fast can't get enough.

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usually they start it they always look at my car then floor it when it turns green. I hate the people who hear me taking off next to them and they think I am raceing there pos 4 banger and floor it.
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I initiate races but only with cars that are "thought" to be fast.
Around my area people have high-end cars that are prety quick for what they are but not that quick. And most folks with new, leased cars don't modify the guts of the cars. I, personally, will not modify my GS400. I'm not even curious what mods are available for it....anymore.
Ricers for some reason are quick to race me. I haven't met one that could take me, except for a Nitro equiped Prelude whom I raced on the highway. I don't feel bad about it, since it was a prolonged race and eventally he realized it was costing him money.
I have nothing agains NO2 but its not practical in street racing.
There was this really old guy(like 65-up) in a very clean GN that pulled up to me the other day, at a light. We looked at each other and he winked at me(I don't even wanna guess) but it was very hot day I had my AC on so I let him get ahead and cut in front of me. Normally, I'd race anyone. I don't feel bad about loosing. Is all good.
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I'd say about 90% of the time the other guy does... the other 10%, I accidentally do without realizing it.

I don't even bother with the ricers. They're not worth the gas. The Mustangs are a different story; I'll drill them every chance I get. The funniest ones are the old guys (some are even older than me!) with the L98 Vettes.... usually they just got the house paid off, or cashed in the stock options, or their kid got out of college, so they stepped out of the mini-van or Camry into a "fast" car. Those guys get a look on their face like they're going to break down in tears.

People with genuinely fast cars, LS1 cars and such, are lots of fun. Those are fun races. I usually beat them (not by a whole lot usually) but I did lose to a late-model SS once, I missed 3rd and was only about ½ car ahead, he got a whole car on me by the time we had to slow down. That was fun even though it would have been beter if I'd won. Some guy in a Honda or something that had been behind us at the light pulled up beside me at the next light and said "Wow! Nothing like a big V8!" I loved it.

Oh well, I had to take the 400 out of it and put more or less the L69 back in to pass CA smog. I did put a set of carefully, gently ported 186 heads on it, and a roller cam, and a few other goodies. I haven't had any kind of a real race to even tell what this motor is like, it's nothing like the 400, but it's not bad at all for a 305. We'll see. I need some Mustangs or something to test it with.

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It depends on the car that I pull up against. If its rice I usually don't bother but if it is rice usually they are revving like crazy and I have no choice but to show them why you don't mess with a IROC-Z. Mustangs I just about always start up races against. Unless they look BONE stock or like beaters. If they look stock I wait for them to try something against my stock looking IROC Any car that I think could take my I try to race especially exotic cars like the odd opertunity I get to pull up beside I Viper or a Ferrari I try to get them to race. I pulled up against at '94 Dodge Viper RT/10 and started revving it up but the guy didn't want to race I think it would have been a good race because don't the 94 RT/10's run high 12's also? I don't think he thought I was worth the gas because by the look he was giving me with the rolling eyes and stuff he completely underestimated my car. I really wish that guy would have raced me

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I say almost a full 100% of the time I have to initiate the race. It pretty bad though. I live right next to a pretty large university with all these rich kids with daddy's money in nice cars and none will race. So far the only races I have are a couple with friends. People around here need to race!!! Sorry, this is a stupid question, but I'm a newbie, so... what's a *****?
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hey dont feel bad consider yourself lucky for not knowing what one is. basically its an import. civic accords and such. the hoigh end models are included too such as supras RX7s and 300zxs but they get repsect from me just like any true import racer who doesnt waste time and money on all those stupid stickers fancy rims and body kits. the true import racer is like us. anything to go faster. Trey
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And to add on to that a ***** is the person that has stickers ALL over their car and body kits and all this stuff to make their car look pretty and for some reason they think it's the fastest car in the world. Also, they talk A LOT of trash. When you see a car with stickers everywhere, a body kit a huge tall spoiler(That doesn't work for most of their cars) and that BAD sounding trash can sized exhaust!

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To get schooled in the ways of the ricers, visit Beaterz.com. It'll explain everything more or less, won't it guys

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go to: http://www.riceboypage.com

It is the best ***** page ever!

BTW I have to share my latest find which I saw on the way into work... A black early '90s toyota celica with 4 or 5 inch exhaust tip and a giant "whale tail" spoiler... the same thing you'd see on a 80's Porsche 911 only bigger and uglier...

I never initiate races, because if I toot my own horn and I get beat it is a sad sad day... plus, there aren't many firebirds that wont race, so its pretty easy for other drivers to assess

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Regarding the discussion of rice...I am curious whether or not you would consider my car "rice"? Would you bother trying to instigate a race against me? Would you even notice me?

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/spoomus/l...Photos&.view=t

Technically it's an import, but it is badged under a (former) domestic nameplate and it was built in Illinois.

I'm not a troll, I'm here because my friend is looking into buying an '88 IROC with the LB9(?) engine with an automatic...I was just checking out the board to get some information to assist him...but the racing forums usually have the most entertaining threads to read, however...

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"my friend is looking into buying an '88 IROC with the LB9(?) engine with an automatic"

People here are REALLY Helpful! ANy questions will be answered. Some helpful links:

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I'm just trying to help him decide whether the IROC is the car he needs or if he should keep looking...it's going to be a 3rd car/weekend toy for him...plus I was wondering what kind of times he might be expected to run at the 1/8th mile track. I've seen 3rd gens run quite a variety of times...he went to the dragstrip with me last weekend, and now he wants in on the fun, too!

Back to my previous question...would you guys pay any attention to my car on the streets (say, if I was cruising along next to you, or stopped at a redlight), or do you think you wouldn't notice it?

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damn SPOOM what times are you and your buddy brad running?i see your beating an LT1 so although you are both rice ,i still give you respect,because your cars dont look like rolling cartoons.also whats yours and brads mods?

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Neither one of us are particularly fast...Brad's car is "under construction", and on that particular day, he was only running 8.6-1 compression ratio pistons. He is building his engine to accept a turbo, but it didn't have the turbo on it (yet), hence the low compression pistons. He has a 98 zx2 5 speed, trans out of ford mondeo mtx 75 with lsd, gkn axles, the engine is built with parts available from ford, the srp/esslinger pistons are available through motorsport catalog, as are the cams, rods, stainless valves, etc, so he's am running pretty much all ford parts. The head has a
full port and polish, large stainless valves, essy springs with titanium retainers, polished combustion chambers, 5 angle valve job, esslinger intake cam, stock exhast cam with variable cam timing. The block is a 00 mondeo zetec-e vct,
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ford racing main and rod bearings, ford racing head gasket, stock forged steel crank, knife edged, and balanced along with pistons/rods, flywheel, and crankshaft pully. The exhaust is a custom 1 3/4 header/turbomanifold when the turbo is on, factory manifold with 2.5 inch exhaust, no cat, and a flowmaster muffler. His intake is a custom "pt performance" intake when turbo is not on, when it is on, 3 inch coming into turbo, 2.5 out. His throttle body was bored to 64mm, and the intake manifold matched to head and throttle body.
He has a granatelli mass airflow meter, with tourint maf adapter to intake pipe, k and n filter when on street, velocity stack when on track. He sometiems runs a 99 ford zx2 s/r computer with diablosport chip. The engine uses arp head studs, and rod and main bolts. Thats pretty much it for drivline, the turbo setup is a turbonetics t3/t4 hybrid with .68 ar comp, but he wasn't running on the day those photos were taken. I don't remember exactly what he was running that day in the 1/8th, but it was fast enough to surprise a lot of people.

I'm running much much closer to stock...I have a couple of gauges to monitor the engine, a 2.5 inch cat-back mandrel bent exhaust, a K&N in the stock air can with the silencer removed, and some free mods. I'm fwd, I have NO limited slip differential, and I either run 225/45/17 inch Kumho street tires or my factory 205/55/16 Goodyear Eagles...both of which are all-season performance street tires. I run in the 1/8th because there is no 1/4 track nearby, and my 60 foot times are absolutely atrocious...usually in the 2.4 second range...but once it hooks up, it's decent. Right now I'm only running 9.4@78-79mph in the 1/8th with 2.4 60 foot times, but my clutch is starting to slip, so I think that my trap speeds should be higher. I think that a new clutch and a LSD would knock at least .3 off of my times, and maybe give me another 1-2 mph. With a new fuel pump and a boost controller, I would be significantly quicker...but I won't speculate by how much. It's not that fast yet, but it's still got a lot of room to improve.

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No, he is NOT rice. I hate to see the word "rice" or "*****" or "riceboy" or whatever term d'jour used for that to have it's meaning stretched to encompass any japanese or import car no matter the state of tune. His car appears to be as much, if not more go than show. Ricers are all show and no go, no matter where they're from. Fast cars are fast cars, no matter where they're from. Rice don't beat LT1's. I'm currently working on an old Z car (Datsun) that will have either a 350 or small block 400 in it. Maybe when I'm done I should make it "appear" to be rice equipped, just to have a bit of fun hehe . R-Type Z-Car anyone? Eh, the exhaust note would give it away :P.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 91rscruiser:
damn SPOOM what times are you and your buddy brad running?i see your beating an LT1 so although you are both rice ,i still give you respect,because your cars dont look like rolling cartoons.also whats yours and brads mods?

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"His car appears to be as much, if not more go than show."

Heheheh...my car is faaaaar from "show". It's not even lowered (heresy for an "import")!!! The only reason I have 17 inch wheels on my car is so that I could fit some tires with decent width on the car (OK, OK, techinically I COULD've made due with the factory 16 inch size, but since I was shelling out the cash for new wheels anyway, I thought to myself "why not upgrade just one inch?"). I did try to keep the wheel/tire combo understated, however...that's why the wheels are white instead of big fat heavy chromies.

I also tried to keep the wheel/tire combo as light as possible. My factory wheel/tire combo weighed 39.5 lbs on each corner, whereas the aftermarket set is 40.5...so I'm only losing 4 lbs unsprung weight TOTAL for bigger rims (17x7.5 vs. 16x6) and 20mm extra rubber per corner.

The exhaust tip is somewhat "*****" (4 inch), but they didn't offer an aftermarket system with the factory style dual tips...luckily it doesn't look too overstated, and the exhaust note is subdued by the turbo (so it does NOT sound anything like a "weedwhacker"...it's just sort of a low grumble accented with the whoosh of the turbo under acceleration).

I've toyed with the idea of pulling off the factory "16V DOHC TURBO" badges on the sides of my car, but then I think that I wouldn't get any V8's to race me AT ALL...so I left them alone.

I love old Z-cars...good luck with your project, it should be a real sleeper!

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Originally posted by Jer82Z28
Idealy, for me, I like it when the other guy initiates. I hate picking races because #1. If I beat him, I feel bad and tell myself I shouldn't have picked on someone slower than me.
#2 If I win, I've had people go balistic on me and try to take me off the road etc. cause i'm such a bully?
#3 If I lose, I feel like I was suckered into gettin my butt whooped.

but rarely does anyone initiate a race with me unless it is a POS truck or *****.
so I end up pickin most of my races anyway.



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Your sig is spelled incorrectly, fix it before other people see you looking foolish.

Oh damn, I didn't see how old this was, who's the fool now?

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