289 Mustang VS 305 GTA?
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289 Mustang VS 305 GTA?
Ok heres the match. My dad has a '67 Mustang 289 2bbl and 4-speed. According to his Mustang book, factory HP rating is 200. And is ~2800 LBS or less (gotta check this again) My car: '88 GTA 305 auto, only missing the power adjustable seats option. Airfoil, Hyper Tech chip, flowmaster, gutted cat, 160* thermo and its droped 2" if that makes any difference. From what I've seen my GTA's HP rating is either 190 or 215 stock, plus whatever the mods give me. This race is almost guaranteed to happen this summer (provided we get lined up at least once at the track) and I really want to beat him, mainly just for the satisfaction of blowing away the almighty Stang in front of my brother (who is very hard core Mustangs are the best there ever was, ever will be, GM sucks etc... Just ask Demon Z28 or AmorgetRS they can vouch for it) My brother also seems to think my only advantage is the chip because I'm an auto, and heavier than the Mustang... So anyone no what I should expect the classic 'Stang to run? Am I gonna need a great launch to win or what? Also I've been to the track once (in my V6 5-speed 'Bird) I don't think he's ever been to the strip before.
Thanks in advance.
Jess
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[This message has been edited by Crusader (edited May 15, 2001).]
Thanks in advance.
Jess
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1988 GTA - 5.0 Auto
1989 Firebird - 2.8 5-speed For sale!
My Page - http://transam.freeservers.com
Firebird owners check out http://transamgta.com
"But as our comparison-test results prove, when it comes to the Mustang and its loyal fans, we just don't get it." - Car & Driver
[This message has been edited by Crusader (edited May 15, 2001).]
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The 289 is a nice fast reving small engine.
Dont be supprised if its a close race.
A general factor to consider, auto vrs standard. You will have the advantage of a cleaner more positive launch but past the 30ft mark your father will have the advantage. Im sure you will win the race but it will be close.
GL post your race results if it happens.
SSC
Dont be supprised if its a close race.
A general factor to consider, auto vrs standard. You will have the advantage of a cleaner more positive launch but past the 30ft mark your father will have the advantage. Im sure you will win the race but it will be close.
GL post your race results if it happens.
SSC
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Well hello there fellow 305/auto GTA. You have every mod i've done, so get your car tuned up right and I wouldnt be surprised to see a near identical time as mine. also, shift the tranny manually. make the shifts around 5100 rpms. and make sure to get the tires nice and warm, but dont overdo it in the burnout box. a huge burnout on radials will make little ***** of rubber on the tire and they will hinder the launch just like little ball bearings under your wheels so yeah, it'll be a close race, but have a little confidence in your 305, they're worthy engines when they're running good.
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Mods: K&N Filter, Hypertech Air Foil, Hypertech Perf. Chip, 2.5in Flowmaster Muffler, Catco Hi-flow Cat
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1988 Pontiac GTA 5.0 TPI
Mods: K&N Filter, Hypertech Air Foil, Hypertech Perf. Chip, 2.5in Flowmaster Muffler, Catco Hi-flow Cat
Maryland Int. Speedway Bracket Racing Trophy Winner
15.32@88mph 2.077 60-ft.
Kills
94 Probe GT, 95 Mustang GT, 96 Impala SS, 85 Thunderbird 5.0, 95 Accord V6, 98 Integra VTEC, 70 Chevelle Malibu, CRX w/ Turbo and Intercooler (have it on tape to prove it)
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I think you have a good chance of takeing him,But it might be close.there's this knuckle-head where i work that has one and he was always telling me that his car was so fast,etc,etc,Anyway,I'm leaving work one night and i see him comeing up in the left lane (his car is a late-60s mustang with the 289 w/edelbrock intake and 4-barrel carb),He hung with me a little bit until my car hit second,Then after that it was pretty much over.I know i have way more mods then you,And my car is a little lighter(base firebird),But i still think you'll win.
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82 firebird with 305H.O.,Block bored .30 over,Keith black hyperutectic flat top pistons for 10 to 1 compression,Turned crank,Magnafluxed connecting rods,Melling H.V. oil pump,and double roller timeing chain,Ported and shaved heads w/3angle valve job,Z-28springs,Summit push rods and comp cams magnum roller rockers,Ported Edelbrock performer r.p.m.intake,Carter 625 afbcarb,Accell spark plugs,wires,and H.E.I.super coil,Heavy duty cap and rotor,Clevite performance cam with 450-460 inches of lift,Comp cams lifters,700r-4 tranny rebuilt with trans-go rebuild kit,corvette servo,New torQue converter,Flowtech headers,Flowmaster muffler,3.73limited slip rear end,Energy suspension bushings from front to rear,Energy suspension tranny mount,New center link,ball joints,trans-am steering box,ASP power pully.
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82 firebird with 305H.O.,Block bored .30 over,Keith black hyperutectic flat top pistons for 10 to 1 compression,Turned crank,Magnafluxed connecting rods,Melling H.V. oil pump,and double roller timeing chain,Ported and shaved heads w/3angle valve job,Z-28springs,Summit push rods and comp cams magnum roller rockers,Ported Edelbrock performer r.p.m.intake,Carter 625 afbcarb,Accell spark plugs,wires,and H.E.I.super coil,Heavy duty cap and rotor,Clevite performance cam with 450-460 inches of lift,Comp cams lifters,700r-4 tranny rebuilt with trans-go rebuild kit,corvette servo,New torQue converter,Flowtech headers,Flowmaster muffler,3.73limited slip rear end,Energy suspension bushings from front to rear,Energy suspension tranny mount,New center link,ball joints,trans-am steering box,ASP power pully.
#5
I think it'll be closer than you think. All the horsepwer ratings from the 60's and 70's are gross ratings-no accessories-no smog equipment hooked up for dyno test. Your rating is most likely a net rating. Plus you have a few good mods in your favor. In my opinion,you've got him.
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Sorry i know this post is kinda old but i couldn't resist, my best friend owns a '65 mustang fastback 289, with Edelbrock Performer and Holley 4bbl with a flowmaster exhaust. I have an 87 SC with 305 4bbl, with 3.73 gears and a flowmaster exhaust with no cat. My car was definately quicker off the line but he started to catch at about 3rd gear but not nearly enough to get past my bumper. Once we got up to 100 mph we stopped, the point is it will be a close race, but you will have him i'm sure of it.
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The big diff. between the other cars mentioned and his dad's are the carb. His dad's car is a 2 bbl. I think you will beat him. Has this race happened or what?
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TB Injected
Ported and Polished heads
Comp cams 268h cam and top end
Flowtech headers
3.73s on Detroit locker
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yea those 2bbl carbs are really nothing, and im pretty sure with a 200hp rating that thing wont do too much of a burnout so watchout off the line. should be pretty close.
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Accel Ignition/Wires (8.8mm), Advanced Timing, TB Bypass, Ported and Gasket Matched Plenum, Synthetic Motor Oil, 160 Thermo, TPIS Airfoil, K&N Air Filters
14.4 @ 94mph w/2.0622 60ft
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 5.0GTA:
Well hello there fellow 305/auto GTA. You have every mod i've done, so get your car tuned up right and I wouldnt be surprised to see a near identical time as mine. also, shift the tranny manually. make the shifts around 5100 rpms. and make sure to get the tires nice and warm, but dont overdo it in the burnout box. a huge burnout on radials will make little ***** of rubber on the tire and they will hinder the launch just like little ball bearings under your wheels so yeah, it'll be a close race, but have a little confidence in your 305, they're worthy engines when they're running good.
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Well hello there fellow 305/auto GTA. You have every mod i've done, so get your car tuned up right and I wouldnt be surprised to see a near identical time as mine. also, shift the tranny manually. make the shifts around 5100 rpms. and make sure to get the tires nice and warm, but dont overdo it in the burnout box. a huge burnout on radials will make little ***** of rubber on the tire and they will hinder the launch just like little ball bearings under your wheels so yeah, it'll be a close race, but have a little confidence in your 305, they're worthy engines when they're running good.
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