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Old 07-24-2011, 06:36 AM
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

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Still doesn't prove that fact that it's not a hype... I still feel like it is, the 5.0 I was playing with did not impress me.. i was disappointed... Not to mention ppl are claiming low 12's on a BONE STOCK 5.0 with just stickies some BONE STOCK with NO stickies... I call on that... A street car doesn't gain a second with just breaking in the motor...
Please produce a video or two, like I have, with an LS1 running times close to that 5.0. I think you are full of "hype". Until then, please sit down and stfu.
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

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Please produce a video or two, like I have, with an LS1 running times close to that 5.0. I think you are full of "hype". Until then, please sit down and stfu.

Wow kid, did I hit a sore spot fanboy? Grow up and stop being a baby... Being an internet tough-guy isn't going to help you out here.... You seem to be taking this very hard. It's only the new 5.0, it's not like jesus just came down to earth or something... Its a great motor yes but it's not as good as it's claimed to be, and as far as I'm concerned it's a HYPE....
It's MY PERSONAL OPINION...

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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

Tough guy, hardly. Smarter than you. Definitely. I just proved your 'HYPE' Theory wrong. Im still waiting for you to produce a video showing a near stock LS1 running a high 11/low 12.

I mean that is your whole argument, well its actually 2 parts: Mustangs are 'HYPE' (meaning they pretend to be something they are not; a low 12 second/ high 11 second car) And LS1s are just as fast.

So can we agree that I posted up 2 videos showing that 5.0s are in fact NOT HYPED, and they do in FACT run low 12's high 11s.

And can we also agree that you have not furnished any video proof that LS1s can magically run low 12's high 11's with only 300whp, to support your idiotic claim that LS1s are just as fast as a 5.0? Because that is exactly what you are arguing with me about.

So cliffnotes: I show proof that 5.0s run low 12s/high 11s, you say BS-HYPE and can't produce any rebuttal.

Tough guy indeed. Just my opinion is all, but at least mine is backed up by facts not sore pride and ignorance.
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

LMAO @ this thread.....
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

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Tough guy, hardly. Smarter than you. Definitely. I just proved your 'HYPE' Theory wrong. Im still waiting for you to produce a video showing a near stock LS1 running a high 11/low 12.

I mean that is your whole argument, well its actually 2 parts: Mustangs are 'HYPE' (meaning they pretend to be something they are not; a low 12 second/ high 11 second car) And LS1s are just as fast.

So can we agree that I posted up 2 videos showing that 5.0s are in fact NOT HYPED, and they do in FACT run low 12's high 11s.

And can we also agree that you have not furnished any video proof that LS1s can magically run low 12's high 11's with only 300whp, to support your idiotic claim that LS1s are just as fast as a 5.0? Because that is exactly what you are arguing with me about.

So cliffnotes: I show proof that 5.0s run low 12s/high 11s, you say BS-HYPE and can't produce any rebuttal.

Tough guy indeed. Just my opinion is all, but at least mine is backed up by facts not sore pride and ignorance.
Unsubscribing from this thread b/c jerk offs like you have way too much pride than whats good for themselves...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y07-VXmlA0

Don't talk about it having more mods, those 5.0's have just as many mods and are setup for drag racing just like this bird.. Plus all the mods listed don't add that much power.. Just like the 5.0's only bolt ons... I'm done with this thread. This is where the site seems to be going... tons of ignorant members now...
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

PS... It's still a hype. Get over it...
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

Looks like all bolts ons and significant weight reduction....HARDLY STOCK GENIUS!!!

Still waiting for you to give this thread a video of a low 12/high 11 from a stock weight LS1 with a tune, drags, and lid.
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

Unless you were THERE to see the car run and know its stock with just CAI and a tune its bullshit. Sorry.

We had two of them at the track the other day with us. One ran 13.8 and the other was 13.4, DA was 2800-3000 all day long. I have minor mods with a tune and gears and was running 13.3-13.4 at 104-105 every time with crappy *** 60'. Usually I am at 13.0-13.1 at 106-107. My car was not NEARLY as hindered by the heat as other cars were.

Even the owner of the track chimed in. He says he has stock 5.0s runing from high 12s to high 13s and the same with SS Camaros. One was there, an auto with just a tune and he was knocking down 13.1 @ 107 so yeah, they can run too.

How on earth does a 412 hp stang with an CAI (no real hp unless you current air filter is filled with earth) and a tune (which helps to an extent, more with an automatic) surpass what the GT 500 does with 550 hp and slicks? Something is wrong.

They are NOT that fast my friends, unless you have one or have raced and seen them in action yourself you dont know ****. Yeah, I can post on youtube a video of me in a full bolt on LS1 car and say that it is stock while taking down times in the mid to low 12s. lol

How is that china built tranny doing in that 5.0?

They are not hype but they are not slow either. They ARE a drivers race with a new LS3 Camaro and the tuned auto SS.
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

The fastest so far is 12.1@114. Again, a stock LS1 isn't touching it. That is all my point was. The fastest recorded freak LS1 trap was 108 or 109. This one is still 5mph and 8/10 faster. LS1 owners are rediculous. Proof is right there, but you discredit it because you weren't there to verify the situation.

But just so Im clear, unless I was there at the track to account for every factory freak run of everycar, it invalid? Good to know. So therefor the Mustang 5.0 didnt run that 12.1, nor did the runs below happen, is that correct? So then by that assinine rule that LS1 that did 12.9@109, that didn't happen either, so we should just go by what newb drivers at the track are getting out of them, word of mouth of them running 13.8s? So therefor my LT1 that went 13.8@101 stock is just as fast as a new 5.0? Wow awesome, ignorance once again has made my day.

Good job guys. What have we learned thus far in this retarded *** thread: new 5.0s, LS1s, and LT1s all run identical times regardless of whp and video proof.

Here's another run that DIDN'T (12.7@109) happen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA97rjvR7-E

And another in 89* weather ( 12.9@110 ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWby9DR9qk8

Here's a bone stock V6 (13.7@102) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsAmO...eature=related

Anyway, Im done. My point is still the same. 5.0 is still faster than the outdated LS1.
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

lol how did we go back to the 5.0 being faster than an ls1 argument again? stock for stock..or mod for mod..the 5.0 will out perform the ls1.if it doesnt then something is seriously wrong.

i could say that a near stock ls1 could do a mid/low 12s pass.....in a miata or something just as light lol but thats not the point here.from what ive seen and heard from others around here... new 5.0s have been around high 12s or low 13s stock.only ones to hit low 12s had boltons or slicks of some sort.this shouldnt be such a big deal on this thread which has badly strayed from the topic to begin with lol
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

Still LMAO @ this thread, it really is good entertainment....
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

I'll chime back in, I think the argument and confusion is what exactly was done to the 5.0 that ran the 12.1x. I'm raising the flag if it was just a set of tires and a CAI(and a tune I think???) I find THAT hard to believe but certainly not high 12 second passes or a little faster.
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

the new mustangs are definetly nothing to laugh at. they are nasty and will walk away a stock LS1. the latter needs bolts ons + cam at the least to stay even/beat a new 5.0.
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Re: 83 z28 vs. new mustang

Convoy is correct. Yes I have seen a few what folks call "freaks" of LS1 runs 12s but most are low-mid 13s with no issues and stock tires. Yes, the 5.0 is a faster car. It should be as it has 60-70 more hp and can come with 3.73 gears. There is no way to argue that. The 5.0 > LS1....end of story.

The 5.0 is rated at 12.7, to gain .8 of a second from a CAI and a tune is a far cry from reality. Throw some tires, full exhaust, and a few other bolt on and yes, it is a possibility.

What our friend BigwhiteGTP doesnt get is:
1. Track conditions
2. Actual modifications
3. DA
: all play a major role in how a car runs.

The 5.0 is very fast, hands down to that, its faster than an LS1/LT1. No question there. The issue is people say "I saw a car on the internet and they run XX.XXX.) That car did run on that track, on that day, that speed/time. You cant say what the real mods are to the car, you cant.

I have seen them at the track and they dont run 12 flat or better with a tune and a CAI. lol The 5.0 gains from mods like any other car but not THAT much.
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