Jake88maro

what do ya guys think? stock bbc and stock trans am

'87IROCZOWNER69

iTrader: (1)

I dont know what the turnout would be but it would sure be one good race!

built91Z28

Well, since no 88 Camaro came stock with a 454, what is the motor out of?

I think the hardest part is going to be getting a T5 to live behind a 454 for a race.

fly89gta

iTrader: (1)

Is it that hard to provide some info? What is a "stock" 454? What year/vehicle did it come out of?

transamws6

im guessing out of a truck..am i right?

v10viper04

You could have 200hp or you could have 400hp. We need to know what it's out of. Either way you'll have fun getting the 454 to catch traction with the amount of torque they make...

zraffz

Well without proper information I still have to wonder...
The 3rd gen with a big block has to weight like 3500-3600 lbs, while the LT1 4th gens I thought weighed less than 3300.
Are you making 300+ horses? If not chances are you wont even hang with him.

v10viper04

A lot of third gens weigh in the range of 3300-3400 without a driver. 4th gens weigh in around 3500lbs without a driver. Maybe more, they are a little heavier than the 3rd gens, not the other way around....

SEMPERFIDELIS

I actually was talking to some guys on another forum about the weight, the 4th gens "average" weight actually falls a whopping 100lbs lighter using the average of various curb weights for each. 4th gen around 3400(V8)-3300(V6) where as the 3rd gen falls around 3400(V6) to 3500(V8). I spent about 30 minutes cruising various sites and wiki pages to gather curb weights to average it out for both generations.

v10viper04

Everyone knows the 4th gens weigh more. More features, safety equiptment, and sound deadening, etc. Not to mention they are physically bigger! Apparently you need to find better sources... Wiki is garbage as anyone can modify it.... 3rd gen average is about 3300-3400 lbs ... The GTA's are the heavy ones at probably 3500 lbs... but those are the heaviest and are definitely not the average considering there are far less GTA's than RS's or Z28's or even base model firebirds.... idk man, unless other members chime in to confirm your "facts" aka opinions (to me) I will not believe a 3rd gen is heavier than a 4th for a second... The only 4th gen that might have an advantage is the LS1( as it's aluminum block weighs about 100lbs lighter than an iron block) other than that I disagree. But I would still think an LS car to be comparable to a 3rd gen, not lighter...

fly89gta

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Like viper said, you'd have to find the heavier thirdgen trims and compare them to the lighter 4thgen trims to support your argument. "Generally" speaking, 3rdgens are lighter.