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agreed awd cars (sti, talon, evo..so on) are fast from most any speed. the launch merely helps them get to speed faster.

80smetalfan

This is true.

TRAXION

Word.

First, beating a stock WRX is nothing really impressive. On a dynojet that car only puts down about 170hp to the wheels ('02-'05). The '06s put down 200hp to the wheels. That's basically crap horsepower. Nothing to be proud of (IMHO). Now, if the WRX were modded with a full exhaust and the correct ECU management then we're talking something. WRXs can put down 240 horsepower to the wheels with a custom ECU tune and a full exhaust (note that I said custom tune and not an off the shelf tune). STIs shouldn't even be discussed in this post. The guy didn't race an STI. It was just a standard WRX. STIs with full exhaust and a custom tune put down over 300hp to the wheels (and, honestly, that is just where respectable horsepower begins).

Tim

bigchief

hahahahaha yes

Mcdamit

I agree, he didn't do anything impressive just won a race against a car with similar power. (power to weight). But in all reality unless its a track bunny, there is no reason to have a car with more than 350-375hp. Beyond 500hp and your just trying to make up for your lack of *****. But umm yeah, I got a whole 230hp so yeah.

kylez28

AWD's strong point isn't roll racing is all i'm saying. I hear that you can take .5 off an AWD's ET to decide about how strong it is from a roll. Just what I heard..not a proven method.

If it's a 13.2 second car from a standing 1/4 mile, with that method it's still a 13.7, which is still fast. I don't agree that a 13 second car is a 13 second car though...

That's like saying...a 3000GT Vr4 runs a 13.5 @ 103 and that is equal to an LS1's 13.5 @ 106...not really.

FbodTrek

I say you got lucky. adding an exhasut to a stock tune WRX is actually gonna COST him some power (don't belive me, look it up). I have a couple friends with WRX's...your car must be a freak. WIth a simple tune, adn exhaust (intake does NOTHING for those cars, and has been PROVEN time and time again to lower output). My buddy put down 230 with jsut exhaust adn a "off the shelf" map. Car clicked off high 13's (13.86 best ET).
That's a very good kill.

TRAXION

Intakes do nothing for WRXs. Intakes do help on STIs (they have 25% more displacement as compared to a WRX and utilize the same airbox).
230 to the wheels on a WRX with an OTS tune and TBE can be done on a high reading dyno with no correction factors. Most WRXs with a TBE and OTS tune will put down about 220whp on a dynojet. 240whp with a custom tune.

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stu

'06 WRXs now come with a 2.5 motor. Just so everyone knows, as I assume we'll be hearing more about them as time goes on.

TRAXION

Yes. Subaru is utilizing the same shortblock across the board on the turbo cars now. Forester Turbo, WRX, STI, and Legacy GT (and Baja turbo) all use the same shortblock. However, the STI gets better heads, cams, turbo as compared to a stock WRX (not to mention the driveline with 6-speed, R180 diffs, etc etc). Still wish that Subaru would have the ***** to put a big enough turbo in the STI. The stock VF39 is total junk. Mitsubishi fits the evo with a very healthy turbo from the factory. Subaru should learn from what they did. But, I fear they will not.

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80smetalfan

This is also true.

One needs only to look at how good of a 60 ft. time an AWD is capable of turning on street tires to figure this out.

stu

If Subaru is going to release the STi with the 2.5 (which is past the 2.0 limit of the rally car anyway) they might as well beef up the turbo. Hell, in Japan the Evo has several packages (one of which has 400 hp from the factory) and kicks the STi's *** all over the place. Not to mention the fact that the Japanese STi's only have the 2.0 motor. Too bad Mitsubishi is tanking and their customer service policies suck ***** when it comes to racing.