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Old 10-27-2005, 11:18 AM
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This kid has the civic and he hasnt even got his liscence yet. He is ridiculous and he says it will aslo beat my buddies 96 Mustang GT. I think it is bull about the mustang, but will it be a close one in the Maro?

what is the quater mile time of a stock auto 2000civic?
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Civic Si?

Chances are you'll win this one if your car is in good shape. You'll definitely get him off the line. If its an Si, things will be closer, but I think you should be able to edge out an '00 Si. I think those years were high 15s or so with a 5spd. Autos kill those cars (as do most cars though..).

I think you should race your buddy's GT. That would be a real close race assuming he's stock and auto as well.
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The GT will have you and him. They were slow, but still had something like 240 hp*. If it's a stick and he knows how to drive it he should get you pretty good. If it's an auto it'll be closer but I think he'd still edge it out.

I think it'll be a driver's race between you and the civic if its an Si (FWIW - all Si Civics have sticks). If it's the normal civic I think you got it.

*EDIT: Now that I think about it, I think those GTs had like 225. I think the 5.0 SN95s had like 215 and the 240 hp one was 98. 99+ had 260. Eh now I'm just confusing myself. I still stand by my prediction.

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All Civic Si's and Integra GSR's came in manual. He will lose, badly. It will be so embarrassing that he will think that his car is broken and panic for an excuse. This kid has NO idea what he is talking about and might as well pants himself in gym class to avoid the level of shame he is about to face. You should give him a two car lead just to show him what a tool he is. Then make him pay for your gas when he loses.
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My buddies dad's girlfriend has a civic Si thats auto. I found it weird so I checked the VIN and ran some numbers from the cowl and any other place I could find and it is infact an Si civic.
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What year is it? Are you sure that you aren't just confusing a Civic with VTEC as an Si? It must be a '93 or something then.
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I am going to agree with stu on this one. An old roomate of mine had a 2002 civic coupe and I would own him with my beastly 170hp LO3. An SI would be considerably closer and should win if the race is from a high speed roll.

The '96 GT is in LO3 territory so I wouldn't say that it would necessarily win. They had an overrated 225hp. I raced a few when my LO3 was stock and I never lost. I didn't win by much either though
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Never forget that the driver makes a TON of difference.

last nite i went to the store and on the way back some buy in a celica gts(?) was messing around so being the low life i am i could not resist. after two trys and letting off before it the ol girl hit second because he as at my back bumper, i followed him to the next block where he pulls up next ot a 2000ish mustang GT at the light.

much to my suprise, but not as much as the GT owner, he nails the gas and the GT can't catch up.

at the next stop light they both hit the gas and it was closer but the celica still had him by a nose.

while trying to drive laughing i followed the guy till i could stop and ask what he had in it. "nothing" he replied. "it's stock". now i am really laughing.

the GT should have handed him his azz but the driver made the difference.
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I have to agree with everybody on the "Experience of the Driver"

The MustangGt is 5speed and i drove it and of coarse it had bawls.

I understand that this kids car is not an Si. Those things i know, are a little quiker than the base civics.


STU "It will be so embarrassing that he will think that his car is broken and panic for an excuse. This kid has NO idea what he is talking about and might as well pants himself in gym class to avoid the level of shame he is about to face."

Oh my ***, thats friggin hilarious, that also explains him.


i have a celica Gt-s for a winter beater haha.

I like my buddies mustang a wicked lot and i will race him soon, but i told him he would kill my camaro because i underestimate my car a lot. Its an LO3. But then people like MW66NOVA give me some confidence. haha

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It doesn't matter how the kid in the Civic drives. Even if it was John Sheppard at the wheel, he'd still lose.
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i think the stangs are over rated....i ran my buddy's '99 GT 5spd. and it was an even run until after somewhere around 1/8-1/4 mile, then he started nudging on me....and my car is mostly stock except for K&N's and a flowmaster muffler...
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i like your car man. yea i hear alot of talk from the mustang crowd
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RRRRR I hate it when people brag about their stock Honda Civic's. The Mustang will smoke him hands down, you should be able to beat him too just not as bad as the GT.

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i raced one of those egg looking new" VTEC "civics a couple of weeks ago.it wasn`t even a race. smoked him hard core.there is only one civic here in town that i would like to get my hands on.supposedly he runs 14`s on the juice.i watched the guy run at the airshow and he got stomped by most of the guys he ran with.HONDA HUNTING FOR SURE

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Automatics REALLLLY hurt any 4 cyl car. If it was a stick shift, it would have been a better race.
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Originally posted by robertfrank
i raced one of those egg looking new" VTEC "civics a couple of weeks ago.it wasn`t even a race. smoked him hard core.there is only one civic here in town that i would like to get my hands on.supposedly he runs 14`s on the juice.i watched the guy run at the airshow and he got stomped by most of the guys he ran with.HONDA HUNTING FOR SURE
Was it an Si or just a car with VTEC? Big difference.
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i don`t know , i know it was an 05 model ,on the bottom rocker panel it said VTEC on it.i know that some of the VTEC civics come with that emblem stock because i see them for sale at the honda dealer here.
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this is the kind of one a raced,but he had all the body kit sticker crap and it was white
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my friend David just bought one of those a month ago...it's white, and slow....
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That's an Si. When you said bubble I was thinking of the '93 model cars. I forgot about that Si because they just came out with a new one.
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Originally posted by stu
All Civic Si's and Integra GSR's came in manual. He will lose, badly. It will be so embarrassing that he will think that his car is broken and panic for an excuse. This kid has NO idea what he is talking about and might as well pants himself in gym class to avoid the level of shame he is about to face. You should give him a two car lead just to show him what a tool he is. Then make him pay for your gas when he loses.

before you quote and tell people things you dont know you should really do some research on the car of question.


Civic si's DID come auto, AND they are pretty quick, quick as a tbi...possibly...but not for a tuned port.

Trust me, I have worked on all these cars and the si's did come stock, auto and standard.

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Originally posted by robertfrank
this is the kind of one a raced,but he had all the body kit sticker crap and it was white

thats the new SIR the king of civics.

They have the highest hp of all civics

They usually are fully loaded (depending on what you choose to buy)

The different *usually* from regular civics and si's/sir/s

si- more horse, vtec possible power options

sir- most power, sunroof, power options, strut tower brace, 4 wheel disc, aluminum rims

There is a major difference between a si and sir

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Originally posted by iroc2nv
before you quote and tell people things you dont know you should really do some research on the car of question.


Thanks all great master.

You know one of the biggest differences between the Si and SiR? They don't sell the SiR in the states. lol. Moonroof.... lol


Are you this guy on my board? You Chevy guys should read this thread, it's golden.


http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/s...ad.php?t=34377
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either way king of civics or not he got his a$$ kicked.
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Are you this guy on my board? You Chevy guys should read this thread, it's golden.
LMAO.....that BB 350 eh? some peoples kids *sigh*

(well unless thats a pontiac 350 werent all thier older model V8's Big Block...dont quote me on that...think ive heard it somewhere though)
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(well unless thats a pontiac 350 werent all thier older model V8's Big Block...dont quote me on that...think ive heard it somewhere though)

actually it was Pontiac that used virtually the same block for 326/350/400/455.

others, example chevy, had big blocks and small blocks. chevy did have a small block 402 as i recall.

Stu, in the future, please warm me BEFORE i waste my time with a link like that!!
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You know you loved it. That guy is so stupid. Someone just remembered that he was the guy who came on a few months ago wanting to know which import he should buy that would make him the most money at the street races. What a clown. lol
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You know you loved it. That guy is so stupid. Someone just remembered that he was the guy who came on a few months ago wanting to know which import he should buy that would make him the most money at the street races. What a clown. lol
haha that guy is an asshat.
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we got bb 348's or something strang like that too...


chevy did some strange stuff back in the day of the 409.

see, if that kid would just shut his mouth for a second and do a half a days research, he'd learn a TON! people just don't understand, knowledge like this is free...please, use the free knowledge.

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Thanks all great master.

You know one of the biggest differences between the Si and SiR? They don't sell the SiR in the states. lol. Moonroof.... lol


Are you this guy on my board? You Chevy guys should read this thread, it's golden.


http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/s...ad.php?t=34377

actually that isnt me. I have never even been on that forum.

I do know one thing about not selling the sir.

In certain years the sir was NOT available in CANADA so they did as much as they could to the si to make it somewhat compatible (94-96 i believe)

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Originally posted by stu
All Civic Si's and Integra GSR's came in manual. He will lose, badly. It will be so embarrassing that he will think that his car is broken and panic for an excuse. This kid has NO idea what he is talking about and might as well pants himself in gym class to avoid the level of shame he is about to face. You should give him a two car lead just to show him what a tool he is. Then make him pay for your gas when he loses.

HAHAHAHA! Thats awesome! I quoted you in my facebook profile.
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yea that was funny as hell.

But whats up with that import Board

Its funny when you see import forums and look at the post they have against american cars, they have to mention m ullets.

Its like, there are soo many things we could just rip on them for posing in the import scene

If > American Cars =m ullets
Then > Imports = a gay fade+ a pink preppy shirt
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It's just a stereotype. E.G.:

Import driver = dumbass r!cer who doesn't know **** and thinks stickers give him HP.

Domestic driver = mu!!et wearing rednek in a car that doesn't handle for **** and is only fast from a stop.

In reality it's the exact people that those stereotypes fit that are the antagonists. E.G. Real r!cers think all domestics can't handle, and dumbass domestic drivers think all imports are slow.

When it reality, anything can be fast, or handle or whatever. Most people don't realize that. There was a saying on here in someone's signature, "The only thing that beats cubic inches is rectangular dollars."
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Yes. exactly
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Thanks all great master.

You know one of the biggest differences between the Si and SiR? They don't sell the SiR in the states. lol. Moonroof.... lol


Are you this guy on my board? You Chevy guys should read this thread, it's golden.


http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/s...ad.php?t=34377

Wow, that was a good laugh although I feel a little dumber for reading it all.
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Originally posted by stu

Are you this guy on my board? You Chevy guys should read this thread, it's golden.

http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/s...ad.php?t=34377

LOL Reminds me of therckid. Just goes to show, doesn't matter what you drive you can still be a tool.
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Originally posted by lxcamaroxl
yea that was funny as hell.

But whats up with that import Board

Its funny when you see import forums and look at the post they have against american cars, they have to mention m ullets.

Its like, there are soo many things we could just rip on them for posing in the import scene

If > American Cars =m ullets
Then > Imports = a gay fade+ a pink preppy shirt
No. Let me walk you through this nice and slow. When someone comes into your house and insults you, especially when they have NO idea what they are talking about, you make a low blow and stereo type them just to **** them off. Are you new to the internet or something?
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It doesn't matter how the kid in the Civic drives. Even if it was John Sheppard at the wheel, he'd still lose.
Every time i see the name John Shepard (I believe that is how he spells his last name) mentioned anywhere it makes me laugh. Not because of who he is or what he drives or anything along those lines........simply because my name is John Shephard (yes I spell it with an "h" and he spells it without, but it is still super similar, and obviously the exact same pronounciation) and it trips me out.
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no im not new to the internet. i dont know how you could say that

how are you gonna tell me that i would make a low blow just to **** them off

im not gonna argue with them
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no im not new to the internet. i dont know how you could say that

how are you gonna tell me that i would make a low blow just to **** them off

im not gonna argue with them
Before stu rips you apart, let me dumb down what he said so you can understand.

Basically, the dude on the OTHER FORUM with the EL CAMINO went onto an import forum saying he had more horsepower stock than most of the imports did, period (which was obviously incorrect). He also mentions his car has 375 HP, which is probably incorrect, and having a big block 350, which is obviously incorrect. The fact that the dude obviously knows nothing about his own car shows that his knowledge about other cars is most likely extremely limited as well, yet he trashes imports anyway.

stu mentioned that it is justifiable to rag on someone else's car when they rag on their car without knowing anything about it (or their own car as well). Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Would you want an import tuner coming on here talking **** about your car without any provocation?

I really hate that some things have to literally be spelled out for certain people over the internet. Is it really that hard to read and comprehend?
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all i was trying to say is all the import scene has to say is crap like ******s and *******s.
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All the domestic scene has to say is ***** and asian. What's your point?
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The imports can be fast. Example Sti,Evo ect. You do have to admit that it is pretty funny when you see a kid in which looks to be a Mommys Honda from a distance, then when it gets closer you see the sticker kits on the side, and hear the huge fart can below the huge wing. Anything can be made fast with the right tuning but sticker kits and fart cans just dont cut it in my book.
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hahha, yea 8lbs of stickers. haha
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Originally posted by stu
It doesn't matter how the kid in the Civic drives. Even if it was John Sheppard at the wheel, he'd still lose.
with the base I agree. aren't the SI's more around the mid 15 to low 15 range with a really good driver?

and yes I know most are around the high 15 range and with this tool not even having a license yet I wouldn't be shocked if he drove a SI to a whopping 17 or slower
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Originally posted by iroc2nv
thats the new SIR the king of civics.

They have the highest hp of all civics

They usually are fully loaded (depending on what you choose to buy)

The different *usually* from regular civics and si's/sir/s

si- more horse, vtec possible power options

sir- most power, sunroof, power options, strut tower brace, 4 wheel disc, aluminum rims

There is a major difference between a si and sir

iroc2nv

what if stu said all carbed cars came with computer controlls.
if I remember right for the us he would be right. from canada though I think some did not come CC.


darn canadians


your SiR is our SI or at least close enough to. do your SiR's come with autos?
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Thanks all great master.

You know one of the biggest differences between the Si and SiR? They don't sell the SiR in the states. lol. Moonroof.... lol


Are you this guy on my board? You Chevy guys should read this thread, it's golden.


http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/s...ad.php?t=34377
thanx for that link. it was some funny listening
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Originally posted by Catfootball62
LMAO.....that BB 350 eh? some peoples kids *sigh*

(well unless thats a pontiac 350 werent all thier older model V8's Big Block...dont quote me on that...think ive heard it somewhere though)
real poncho motors I don't think had any real big block or small block. think all the v8's used the same block itself other then the 301 which was the bastard child in more ways then one
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Originally posted by mw66nova
we got bb 348's or something strang like that too...


chevy did some strange stuff back in the day of the 409.

see, if that kid would just shut his mouth for a second and do a half a days research, he'd learn a TON! people just don't understand, knowledge like this is free...please, use the free knowledge.
are those really big blocks? not trying to mock you I honestly didn't know that. I think they where flat head and had w shaped valve covers. about all I know
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Originally posted by vrtc350
LOL Reminds me of therckid. Just goes to show, doesn't matter what you drive you can still be a tool.
if you where only around long enough to remember topazboi

if your bored go do a search for topazboi
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