25thmustang

Yeah good post from someone with ZERO 4.6 experience. Im sure you have seen them run NA 11s and faster, stock motored low 12s, and well into the 8s and 9s with power adders. Im sure you know what it takes to go fast, what they like, and what can be done with them to base your opinion on them...

Afterall your the kind of person we care your opinion...

Dog them all you want, the people who work on them, mod them, and race them know what they can and cant do, not the GM faithful on a thirdgen site!

rocluvr0013

Wait i know how we can decide whos right...

Who has the bigger pen1s?

25thmustang

Or who has more knowledge, more experience, and is not brand loyal... does that work?

urbanhunter44

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Whoa. Hold on. That was probably the funniest thing I've ever read on here. No. Really. Think about it.

You're on an Fbody site. You OWN an fbody. You've been reading here for quite awhile. How in gawd's name can you be so f*cking misinformed as to say that his car is a 5th gen? What the f*ck?

Before you try to insult me, or anyone else, at least try to get your facts in order. Especially about something that you at least claim a little bit of knowledge in. Apparently "little" is the operative word in that last sentance.

A little bit of a history lesson for you:

67-79 - 1st Generation F-Body
70-81 - 2nd Generation F-Body
82-92 - 3rd Generation F-Body (You did know that right???)
93-02 - 4th Generation F-Body

The LT1s (my style) lasted from 93-97. His style, the LS1s, went from 98-02. However they are the same Generation, just styling changes - E.G. the change in 91-92 to the Aero kits. What's really funny is even my girlfriend knows this sh*t just from being around me.

And for the record, I play with Star Wars toys. NOT Pokemon.

urbanhunter44

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Double post, however I'll leave his quote on there just to laugh at.

fly89gta

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Urban I "think" he meant mustangs(though I didn't know they were refered to as 1st gens, 5thgens etc etc).

superGMman

Wow. How are you going to get mad at a person for roasting a stang on a site that's half about CAMAROS. In case you didn't know, there's a thing called the Ford vs. Chevy rivaly. And yeah, I don't have any 4.6 experience CAUSE I DONT WANT TO. Remember where you are next time you post. What do you do on this site? Run around correcting people about mustangs?

lilbowilson

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HEY HEEYYYYY!!!!!! CHEERLEADERS BACK!

What's up MANN!
It only took you 22 days to come up with a response! LOL!

OK OK I'll give you that your right I just figured that it was a 5th gen seeing how it came with a totally different front end and completely different engine that's in a league of its own compared to a stock LT1. BIG WHOOP MY BAD! As far as knowledge goes KID don't even think your on my LEVEL I've rebuilt more engines, car, trucks and even tanks than you have driven. I've done quality work for FORD, GM and Chrysler for over 8yrs. My hands put my 3rd gen together from top to bottom. Can you say the same for your 25th camaro? Or are you an your girlfriend still making payments? LOL!

superGMman

There's like mini wars going on in this thread, it's great, good for everyone to argue here than in a REAL thread.

fly89gta

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I hate Fords with a passion but you're way off dude. I personally don't like the 4.6 motor but there are PLENTY of guys out there that have them running well. Maybe not out your way on the messed coast but out here in reality guys know what they're doing.

lilbowilson

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SuperGMan

Would you believe my very first car was a 73 Toyota Carona! LOL

superGMman

Swear to ***! Was it the station wagon? That's hella crazy.

25thmustang

Got a problem with the car I defend? Im sure you do, but stay here long enough and you will see me a LOT! I have been here since 2001, have had 3 names on the site and have met more people here than Im sure would back you up! I know where I am, do you know who you are talking to?

I will continue to correct the uninformed brand loyal guys who know NOTHING about a car, yet continue to bad mouth them. Learn something then post facts, until then, your just another lame excuse for a brand loyal internet s**t talker!

Congrats and welcome to the site, Im not going anywhere so get used to it!

superGMman

Your right. I have no problem with you being on this sight and I respect your stand, but come on it's a third gen GM site, you gotta expect people to bash on a stang once in a while.

Now that I think about it I'm kinda glad your on this site. I hate it when people screw facts up about cars, but don't like the I have more experience than you game. Your right, there needs to be somebody to tell the other side of the story.

Good Day sir

fly89gta

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Wow, public education at it's finest.

Please run grammar check next time.

87TPI350KID

For what they are, thos 4.6 stangs are pretty slow stock, but with basic mods, it really shows thier full potential. Carcraft is running 12s in an 05 with basic suspension mods and DRs

superGMman

I know I should probably read my posts before I post them.


All I'm saying is that it's easy to say this sucks and that sucks, and it's good to have people tell people what's up. But I still am brand loyal and still think 4.6's suck, and that's my opinion. If I come off as a internet crap talker than so be it, you can fire back all you want, and in some ways I encourage it.

stu

"Hey, why'd you kill that little girl in an alley?"

"Oh don't worry, I'm just brand loyal."

mustbeatmopar

hahahahahah.....that dosent make sense. way to look like a jerk stu.

urbanhunter44

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Oh boy this will be fun.

Yeah it took me awhile, been really busy. I apologize.

Lets start with this. Apparently you know jack f*cking **** about Fbodies. That's fine. That's what this site is for. Feel free to post in other sections besides this to learn more. Also check out ls1tech.com, camaroz28.com and fbody.com. All excellent resources for learning more about Fbodies!

And you call me a kid. Do you know anything about me? Anything? Nope. Didn't think so. I might be 16 years old and not even own an Fbody, or I might be a 45 year old mechanic who owns a shop. Or I might be a 19 year old son of said mechanic, who has rebuilt plenty of engines, cars and trucks. Case in point, you don't know sh*t about me, so don't pretend to.

Let me educate you a little bit on the differences between a stock LS1 and a stock LT1, since you brought that into the picture as well. Perhaps you didn't know that it only takes $900-$1000 to make an LT1 run a 12.9 and fly past most stock LS1s on the 1320. There's a little bit of random knowledge for you, Mr. Badazz.

Congradulations on building your 3rd gen top to bottom. I chose to buy a car that was already put together, and not a peice of sh*t that I had to take apart and fix everything.

Can you say the same for your 25th camaro? Or are you an your girlfriend still making payments? LOL!

This last sentance speaks volumes about your reading comprehension level, Mr. Put together a million engines. You can clearly see in both my sig and sidebar under my name that I own a 25th Anniversary TRANS AM. You never cease to amaze me. And no, I am not making payments. I bought my car for $5k even, and have put a few thousand into it making it better than it was. My car NADA books at 13,000 dollars to a collector. I've been offered $10k at a carshow for it just last Friday at the local mall.

Anything else you have to say, Mr. Awesome?

25thmustang

I do have a LOT more experience than you about the motors you are calling crap... I might even have more GM experience than you as well, who knows, all I know is it is nice to have an unbiased opinion on here about the other side, and that has been me for 4 years! keep hating the 4.6, it isnt going anywhere and getting faster and faster every year!

freestylzz

That's right, 4.6's can use all the help they can get. Besides,nothing with a V8 and a little bit of muscle is going to go anywhere nowadays considering these gas prices

cas0484

Since we got a cheerleading squad forming.....count me in. I also have a "25th Camaro" but sadly yes I am still making payments on.... I paid 7k for mine but I too have had offers of 12k. 5th gens rule

lilbowilson

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Quote:

Apparently you know jack f*cking **** about Fbodies

Your right! All I know about F-bodies is how to:

Install a 3 series posi with 3.73 (properly dailed in BTW) with upgraded 28 spline Superior axles.

Weld in tubular subframe connectors and LCA relocation brackets (BTW I do my own welding).

Install adjustable LCA's and pan hard bar ( BTW I did my own adjusting to the pan hard bar for bigger tires).

I custom made my 3" Y-pipe

Install a adj torque arm and wonder bar

Install a complete rebuilt engine and trans ( I could have rebuilt the trans myself but I wanted something with a warrenty encase I brake it)

Install new brakes, rotors, springs, shocks etc. etc.

I also worked on a LT1 93 model trans am put on 1.6 rockers, changed the head gasket and installed a shift kit. Pretty much the same as a 3rd gen but with less room in the engine bay.

An your right again I don't know anything about you. Just judging by your posts you seem kind of young to me. So tell us ALL MIGHTY PRIEST OF F-BODIES how old are you and what do you do for a living?

not a peice of sh*t that I had to take apart and fix
I would gladly put my peice of sh*t up against yours any day.
I'm in the 12's FRESHMAN!

You got a 9.032 in the 1/8??? I was doing that with a stock 305

Sidewayz28

jeeezzus stop crying everyone....its getting pretty off topic..

fly89gta

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Yet you can't use proper grammar.

CLASSIC!

urbanhunter44

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Congraduations, you can do work that any C grade mechanic should be able to do. I don't see your point. You know how to work on a thirdgen, yet don't know jack about fbodies. Congrats once again.

Also I don't see how by reading my posts you can determine my age? If I was going to do that to you I'd probably figure that you're some 15 year old that doesn't even own a car, judging by the things you say. Probably just copy/pasting things from tgo

I would gladly put my peice of sh*t up against yours any day.
I'm in the 12's FRESHMAN!

12's aren't ****. Go run some 9's and I'll be impressed. LS1s can run 12s stock. Hell, I can think of at least nine people I know off the top of my head whos daily drivers would smoke the **** out of your Camaro without a doubt, and three of those people drive imports So, case in point, step off your high horse, 12s is not the fastest **** around.

And if you had read the rest of the time slip, you'll see that was with a 2.2 60ft (nitto nt450s), and my only power mod being a catback. If you know jack sh*t about racing, you'll see what I'm getting at.

25thmustang

I run 12s also, and can weld, and do ALL my own body work, motor builds, rear end builds, parts installs, and drive mine as well as a few others cars to get the best track passes...

Do I get the internet award for being "THE MAN"?

Sidewayz28

ya'll sum bittchss

lilbowilson

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Congraduations, you can do work that any C grade mechanic should be able to do. I don't see your point. You know how to work on a thirdgen, yet don't know jack about fbodies. Congrats once again.

Yes any C grade mechanic can do it the question is can YOU?
Can you do anything besides descreen your maf sensor or did your dad do that for you?


Also I don't see how by reading my posts you can determine my age?
How about you answer the question instead of avoiding it? An what do you do for a living? Seems like a pretty simple question to me.


Probably just copy/pasting things from tgo
Don't you wish! Once I get my car painted and my interior done I'll post pics.




12's aren't ****. Go run some 9's and I'll be impressed. LS1s can run 12s stock. Hell, I can think of at least nine people I know off the top of my head whos daily drivers would smoke the **** out of your Camaro without a doubt, and three of those people drive imports So, case in point, step off your high horse, 12s is not the fastest **** around.

Never said 12's are the fastest its just fast enough to beat you! Yes a lot of LS1's run 12's (which BTW you don't have) but a lot of them don't just ask your CO-Cheerleader fly89gta. Is this the girlfriend you were talking about that knows more about F-bodies than me? Oh now I see what you meant by 4th gens STICK TOGETHER.

An why do people aways bring other peoples cars into the conversation? Lets just stick with what you own vs what I own.

I don't see your point. You know how to work on a thirdgen, yet don't know jack about fbodies

So I made the mistake in thinking 98-02 were 5th gens an that qualifies me as not knowing jack about F-bodies? I know enough to know what parts are compatible, which years had MAF, Speed density and MAP etc. etc. So you think whatever you want kid but have you actually worked on one and learned something or did you just learn everything from magazines and internet articles?

And if you had read the rest of the time slip, you'll see that was with a 2.2 60ft (nitto nt450s), and my only power mod being a catback. If you know jack sh*t about racing, you'll see what I'm getting at.

Yes I read your time slip and I know stock LT1's with touring tires can run 8.7 all day in the 1/8. So I know its your driving skills.

Do I get the internet award for being "THE MAN"?
Never said I was asking for a award for being the man. The kid was saying I don't anything about f-bodies just because I said a LS1 is a 5th gen. So I tried to inform him I do but it didn't work though oh well.

Look urbanhunter44 Im not trying to be your enemy, you don't have to tell me your age or what you do for a living. I was just trying to learn more about you thats all. No hard feeling OK!

fly89gta

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Actually I broke into the 12's 2 weeks ago. I just need some good tires(still running my regular street tires). Trapping at mid 109's so with some actual traction I'll be able to get that down around 12.4's or so.(and not I'm not bragging but the conversation took a turn there)

Also he wasn't defending me, nor was I defending him. I'm not quite sure why you're talking major ****...quite frankly you're bragging about common knowledge ****.

What you SHOULD be doing is taking some internet courses on spelling and grammar instead of wasting your time arguing with "cheerleaders".

Wow look at me! I can run 12's. Wow look at me! I can weld. Look at me! I can run 12's on 2.77 gears and talk **** about anyone running steeper gears!

WAHOOOOOOO.

Please...you're bragging on the internet for Christ sake. Get a life.

fly89gta

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..and LOL@1/8 mile talk. Must really suck living in an ***-backwards inbred area that can't even provide a 1/4 mile track

YEEEEEEWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW

lilbowilson

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Hey man you win I surrender

fly89gta

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urbanhunter44

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Yes any C grade mechanic can do it the question is can YOU?
Can you do anything besides descreen your maf sensor or did your dad do that for you?

Actually I've torn down and built several engines, transmissions and rear ends, along with over a years experience under the direct guidance of two master technicians doing everything from maintenance to performance work. So yes, I can do those things. Including welding.


How about you answer the question instead of avoiding it? An what do you do for a living? Seems like a pretty simple question to me.

Sorry I forgot to answer, I'm the 19 year old from my previous post. I'm a full-time college student (17 units, 5 days a week - graduating next semester) and I work 35 hours on the weekend to support myself and my little hobby. I work during the week at my father's shop, and I used to work there full time when I had a different class schedule. I am young, however most who know me think I would be much older.


Don't you wish! Once I get my car painted and my interior done I'll post pics.

Great.

Never said 12's are the fastest its just fast enough to beat you! Yes a lot of LS1's run 12's (which BTW you don't have) but a lot of them don't just ask your CO-Cheerleader fly89gta. Is this the girlfriend you were talking about that knows more about F-bodies than me? Oh now I see what you meant by 4th gens STICK TOGETHER.

What exactly do you run? An extremely high 12 with a 1.7 60 foot, or a low 12 with a 2.1 60 ft? There are alot of variables other than "I run 12s." And if you really want to get into this, I have parts sitting in my garage and living room that will make my car hit 12.9s, with NOTHING for power other than a catback and a tune. Of course I havn't installed them yet, so I won't be r ice about it.

An why do people aways bring other peoples cars into the conversation? Lets just stick with what you own vs what I own.

Because your knowledge - by your own admission - was lacking, and it appeared you failed to realize the true potential of certain powerplants in their stockish form.

So I made the mistake in thinking 98-02 were 5th gens an that qualifies me as not knowing jack about F-bodies? I know enough to know what parts are compatible, which years had MAF, Speed density and MAP etc. etc. So you think whatever you want kid but have you actually worked on one and learned something or did you just learn everything from magazines and internet articles?

My 10 year old sister knows there is no Fifth Generation F-body.

Actually I've worked on my car and other f-bodies extensively, and visit the track regularly. My knowledge is extensive and largely learned via hands-on experience.

Yes I read your time slip and I know stock LT1's with touring tires can run 8.7 all day in the 1/8. So I know its your driving skills.

Precisely, although I prefer to say "There's still potential on the table."

Never said I was asking for a award for being the man. The kid was saying I don't anything about f-bodies just because I said a LS1 is a 5th gen. So I tried to inform him I do but it didn't work though oh well.

You started talking sh*t to me, so I took a shot at a dumb statement you said. Sue me.

Look urbanhunter44 Im not trying to be your enemy

Well you succeeded.

you don't have to tell me your age or what you do for a living. I was just trying to learn more about you thats all. No hard feeling OK!

If you wanted to know something about me, perhaps you could ask without the name calling and ignorant comments.

rocluvr0013

Wow guys this is getting stupid i think its about time for a

fly89gta

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AND WHO ASKED YOU?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?

Sidewayz28

this pathetic thread..im sick of reading about these 3 immature men arguing on an internet forum about whose better than who... S H U T T H E F U C K U P

fly89gta

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Then don't read it.

Actually it was one guy saying how great he is...two others were just laughing at him lol

iroc22

This has gone on long enough.