shawnc16

this was a while back but its still pretty decent. I was comin back home from the grocery store with my best friend and happened to be pulling up to a stop light. well a 350z pulled up beside so of course a punkass teenager with a mean camaro is gonna give em a few revs. Well the green light hit and so did my damn foot to the floor. well my cars an auto 305 with a few minor bolt ons. chip headers, small stuff. I had him off the line by about a half car and it basically stayed like that til about the 1/4 mark and he started pullin me. I cant say to much cuz im grinnin ear to ear that this guy just spent about 30 gs on that piece. Well come to find out next day was a sunday (drag racin) damn car was outta tune. lol great times. perfect kill for the 305 tpi.

stu

It must of been his first day with the car, or it was an auto, otherwise you just got lucky.

pasky

I agree, i've run two of those, thier not slow but they aren't considerably fast. With a 305, he should have gotten you pretty easily. Must be a inexperienced driver. Either way, a win is a win. There is no luck in this game.

shawnc16

it was a stick cuz i was watchin to make sure. I dont think it was luck either i had a good jump off the line on him. seemed like he was a damn good driver too. Theres just some memories you dont forget. I get some decent traction on the road but the strip i cant get anything outta them street tires

shawnc16

my current best time is a 14.66 at 97mph. gotta ease into the gas off the line. got some new mods to through on that though, bmr lcas and 3.73 w/ auburn posi.

stu

Those cars run 14.1s when driven well.

shawnc16

well there you have it StU thats a damn good race if you ask me. half a second aint much

stu

No it isn't that much. I'd be smiling too.

shawnc16

anybody else beatin up the 350z?

pasky

Pletny of times . Even gave one a headstart . Nice kill man, their quick little buggers.

freestylzz

And then some of us won't bother :rockon:

shawnc16

ha ha i like that! Soon i will be up in that class just give me some time! Im still young i dont have money yet

freestylzz

Yes good kill my friend. Play safe.

shawnc16

another thing to add, hondas beamers mustangs (ex. 03 cobras)
all too easy anymore. unless there runnin some slicks and a power adder. I cant say a 14 sec. is fast but as long as im hookin i dont have problems with too much

stu

At first I thought you were comparing the 03 Cobra to a Honda. Since when have Hondas and Beamers been fast?

Cali Z

you mention mustangs all except 03 are all too easy anymore. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the sn cobras and newer body style GT's and Cobras capable of running into the 13's, cobras especially? If your current best time is a 14.7, how is it that most mustangs are all too easy anymore? And you mention Beamers, are you saying M3's are cake for you?
just curious

ThirdGenFire

LoL....Haven't raced one personally but I know my friend in his 96 3.8 V6 Camaro has beaten 2 of them(a G35 Coupe and a 350Z). Not by too much but enough to claim he has beaten them. The V6 has headers, cutouts, a SLP intake and drag radials and a heck of a driver. I can beat him by a couple car lengths so it should be a good race. I am happy to see a third gen beating one of those, very happy that it is a 305 TPI now make it a 305 TBI and I will be really impressed.

stu

Who are you guys finding to race here? I wasn't afraid of V6 Camaros when my car was stock and running high 16's! V6 Camaro = crap.

pasky

Yup, I agree, as far as performance goes anyways. The cars are too heavy to lug around with a v6. They make stlyish daily drivers though.

ShiftyCapone

iTrader: (7)

I agree as well with the exception of the late seriesII 3.8 cars. They were mid 15sec cars all day long. Every other V6 f-bod up to '98 however was slower than molasis.

shawnc16

ha ha sorry guys had to create som conflict. Isnt that what makes the boards what the are? What i was tryin to say is that most kids think beamers are fast and im sure there might be a few. Did i say honda? hmmm wow what was i thinking? Maybe i just got done watching the fast and furious.

91Z-TheReaper

There isn't too much around that I'm afraid of...
Laugh at any honda...
350Z is a joke...
Beamer M5 I smoked and he had the jump off the line...

pasky

There was a Mercades compressor that gave me one good run, I thought I was gonna lose. Went through two stop lights and he was right on my quarter panel, neither of us were gaining and we shut down at the next light. That guy looked pretty pist. Was like a drug dealer or something, was pretty fun.

shawnc16

I had some VW punk tryin to look cool. It had a turbo cuz he kept revvin it at me. Well i pulled up to him and he didnt wanna go. Come on now musta struck fear in his eyes. I cant really say that i could have beat him but i can give em hell. I get some pretty good jumps off the line and i can hang in there. Then again i do have a 4inch cowl hood that pretty much draws attention to anything. Thats what i like to see, but its all show and no go at this point.

stu

You can't rev a turbo. I'd race you after seeing that cowl. The last third gen I raced had a cowl like that, and he lost.

shawnc16

i know you cant rev a turbo, revving his engine spooling up his turbo. I would also race someone with a cowl hood. To some people it looks intimidating, i would say no one on this should be intimidated by it. I would actually have like to have gotten my engine done before the paint but im not home to do that so the paint came first along with the hood. The "GO" part must wait

freestylzz

Reminds me of a beautifull silver 360 Modena I tried to fish into going at a light a couple years ago around 1:30 in the morning. Couldn't get him to bite, would have been interesting. An older Asian guy in his early 40's It's not often we might come up against the European exotics.

CHEVY_EATER

The fastest I have seen a stock 350Z run is a 13.7x at my track with a real good driver. Most I see are 14.0-14.2 range with ok drivers. I had a run in one day with one..the guy took off from a light wide open..chirped into 2nd gear. I wasn't even paying attention! I never even took off until I heard him chirp into 2nd gear. I reeled him in after I hit 3rd gear and he let off of course. Then I heard from a kid that I had gotten "smoked" by a 350Z. The old guy was bragging about it....idiot.

CHEVY_EATER

I tried to get a Lotus Esprit TT V8 to race a few years ago..he was too good to do that though...

stu

That was the first car that I got to test my car with. We didn't line up or anything, but he got on it right at the spot where I tend to do the same when I need to merge onto the main street. I think he was a little slower than the slightly modded LS1 that was my first real race a few weeks later.

pasky

How fast are they? I've never even heard of a lotus ti'll I saw one at a get together in a parking lot in Austin. From what I gather their just super light. Toyota makes them right?

ShiftyCapone

iTrader: (7)

Lotus makes them. They are an english car if I rcall correctly. They are expensive and considered an exotic (except the Elise). In stock form, the Lotus Elise is one of the best handeling cars ever made. The Esprit turbo cars are scary and expensive.

stu

The Lotus is made by Lotus. It has a twin turbo V8 (I'm pretty sure it's a Ford motor). It only makes an advertised 350hp though (crank I assume). They are cool cars, and I've only seen two in my whole life in person.

The car you are thinking of is one of Lotus' newer cars that wasn't legal in the states. At first some company named Sun something or other transplanted Integra Type R motors into the cars and shipped them over to the states. Then, Lotus got the idea and followed suit by just putting Toyotas VVTI motors out of their Celica GTS in the cars so that they can be sold on our shores.

91RSHawaii

kind of off topic, but ive noticed that out of all the imports the one I hate the most is the Celica, not quite a r i c e r car, more of a chick car... but lots of guys like them... doesn't the aftermarket suck for them?

stu

Yeah, the aftermarket is much less for the Celica than the Hondas. I don't know why though. The Celica GTS is right on par with any Integra GSR (well it was until they lowered the redline which screwed up where you fell into the next gear) and they handle much better, and have a six-speed to boot. I don't think that their motors are quite as strong though, as you never see turbo Celicas (I'm talking the newest generation) and the ones you do see run very low boost with terrible times.

91RSHawaii

well toyota in general isn't all-there in the world of sports cars... think about it, aside from the celica, they haven't a single sporty car left in their line-up, since they axed the supra that is, lol its funny to think that a Corolla type S might be the next most performance oriented Toyota after the celica.

They could be throwing all their money into lexus though, the IS300's a pretty nice machine there... but I personally dislike the SC430.

hmm... yeah not really a toyota fan here.

What do you guys think about AE86 Corollas? lol

pasky

Dont know but that is mostly the reason I hate imports, the stupid and over exaggerated names. The Type -R G34201#!*^$ * .0124. I can't ever keep up because they got these stupid add on names.

shawnc16

I happened to be at the woodward dream cruise in MI this fall and watched a twin turbo vette eat a viper alive comin out of a gas station. Cant say that wasnt a beautiful site. It was about an 01-02 if i recall.

stu

You are forgeting about the MR2.

The Corrola AE86 is an old RWD '80's Corolla with a rotory motor in it. They came back into popularity with drifting.

I used to have a video a long time ago with an AE86 that was like a three rotor and turbocharged or something. The video was all in Japanese, there are these three guys looking under the hood, explaining what's done to it, and joking with each other. Pretty normal, except it was in Japanese, so you are like "WTH is going on here?" the whole time. Anyway, they all pile into a camera car and follow the AE86 out onto the highway. Once they level off at around what looks like 60mph, the AE86 takes off. I swear it looks like you are standing behind a 9 second dragster at the track the way this thing took off. It was the coolest thing, I wish I still had it.

stu

You are forgeting about the MR2.

The Corrola AE86 is an old RWD '80's Corolla with a rotory motor in it. They came back into popularity with drifting.

I used to have a video a long time ago with an AE86 that was like a three rotor and turbocharged or something. The video was all in Japanese, there are these three guys looking under the hood, explaining what's done to it, and joking with each other. Pretty normal, except it was in Japanese, so you are like "WTH is going on here?" the whole time. Anyway, they all pile into a camera car and follow the AE86 out onto the highway. Once they level off at around what looks like 60mph, the AE86 takes off. I swear it looks like you are standing behind a 9 second dragster at the track the way this thing took off. It was the coolest thing, I wish I still had it.

Pasky, you are confusing the names of the cars. There are trim levels, just like any other car Type R -- Cobra R, what's the difference? The other thing you are seeing is this fad that the Japanese car companies name their luxury cars with numbers. I think Toyota started it with their Lexus line. So now you have SC430 and stuff like that.

Here's a hint, if a Lexus has a "4" in the name, then that car has a V8, the SC430 is a perfect example.

pasky

That may be the case.......but why? I mean, it just makes it more confusing. I imagine its to sound more flashy to the customer but come on? I mean that as far as japanese parts and crap too, the RS324689 trillion cam. Its ridiculous, keep it simple stupid.

stu

It sounds like a personal issue to me. What's the difference between a string of numbers and a string of letters?

That's like saying that VIN numbers are too confusing, so they should start using long words or short phrases. About the parts, they all have part numbers like that anyway, so what does it matter if there are names or not. I think it saves the company all the effort of coming up with cheesy names like "Street Warrior" or whatever, then having to double check and see if someone else already has it and all that crap. It just sounds more efficient to me.

shawnc16

very true stu and i think i heard some rumors about Gm using numbers soon for the new models.

pasky

yes, but I don't use my vin numbers to tell them the options in my car. Check out domestics. Z28, RS. ZL1, Z06, GT, GTP. All easy, no longer than 3 letters. That tells me all I need to know about the car. Z28 tells me it has a v8 and good suspension. RS tells me it has the beautification pack, Z06 tells me its a beast. GTP tells me it has a supercharger, etc.. etc... GS3420 doesn't tell me jack if I were to look at it.

stu

LOL, you're just being a baby, and still missing the point.

First, there is NO trim level that is longer than 3 letters of any car ever made that I've ever seen. Except Kompressor.

Second, the long ones like SC430 aren't trim levels, they are the whole car name. You are acting like import car names are all crazy and confusing, and domestic car names are all naturally intuitive. That's not the case, you just happen to have all the domestic ones memorized, and not anything else. If you'd take the time to expand your horizons a little, the trim levels and numeric names of other car companies wouldn't seem so long and scary to you.

Really now, there is nothing any more intuitive about domestic trim levels than any other car company. How is anyone supposed to guess that Z28 means V8? It can't be the "Z" because Z24 Cavaliers and Z34 Luminas don't have V8s. It can't be the numbers because then the Camaro would have a 2.8 lite and the CK would have a 7.1 liter. The Rally Sport used to be a V8, but now it's an equally crappy V6.

The Mustang GT has a V8, but the Celica GT is the middle trim base motor.

The Mustang LX had a V8, the Accord and Civic LX are mid level trims with mid level engines. You just need to buck up and start learning things out of your little box.

stu

I guess you know nothing about VIN numbers then. I see the problem here, you are an average laymen, not a car enthusiast.

pasky

its not about expanding my horizons, I realize they are easier. Your missing my point. Its far easier to remember something with memorable lettering rather than numbers that are similar to each other depending on my options. Im not being a baby. Being a baby would be me saying I won't buy one until they change it to lettering, your jumbling my argument around.

EDIT: Ah yes, I know nothing of VIN numbers, I suppose you have come to this site to educate just myself in this mysterious work of black magic. Sorry but I have never once bought a car and had someone say, "Hey man, give me the VIN, I wanna check this thing out". Please okay, the only time im looking for a VIN is for insurance or if im purchasing a car.

ljnowell

Yeah, why dont you tell me what option tires, color interior, and stereo package I have by my VIN stu? The vin only tells basics, nothing more.

stu

I see, I thought that you were saying that the VIN number doesn't tell you anything about the car.

And I'm saying that it's not any more confusing, you just think it is because you don't know them yet.

pasky

You fail to realize, its not the consistency, its the ease of remembering. You can't decode a trim. When I hear, Type R, I know what what a Type R means, when I see V-TEC, I know what it means, why? Because it sounds catchy, it sticks in my head, once again, GSC324 doesn't stick in my head, I will forgot it, if I saw GSC328 later down the road, I wouldn't know what the hell it is because i'd think its the same car. Z24 and Z28, if you cannot differientate a cavalier from a f-body, you have issues to start with before bringing up this discussion. The problem is GSC320 is too similar to GSC324, especially when their both tagged on the same chassis. Why don't you understand the argument before throwing your change into the jar.