The ongoing battle...91RS vs. 95 300zx
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The ongoing battle...91RS vs. 95 300zx
Well, first of all, for alot of people on this board, this may not seem like a very fast race. However for me and my friend this is what we live for. AS the title suggests my friend has a 95 300zx n/a that is immaculent with only 44,000 original miles on it. It is a 5 speed and completly stock. MY 91 Rs has the few mods listed in my sig. We never really raced when I had the 305 but I'm sure it would have been a slaughter seeing as how he killed my other friends 92 rs 305 that had 3.42 gears. But now with the 350 things are different. From a roll he slowly walks away from me however from a stop I pulled half a car on him(before I got 350 injectors). I am confident that I can beat him from a stop no problem however from a roll its a different story. I'm thinking new gears will help me out seeing as how i still have a peg leg 2.73 but I still lack the power up top. But this just goes to show you that some of these imports actually have some power. Although alot of peolpe would be able to blow a n/a 300zx out of the water....it still give me a run for my money. One of the few imports I respect. (On a side note, my car is in severe need of tuning and perhaps this will not be an issue in the near future but who knows)
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hey man i dontknow cause his Z is pretty quick if he gets a good start i think hell beat you man and i agree with the roll but well have to see when you tune your car.
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Originally posted by Free Bird
Posi and a good set of tires. The only thing that should be one wheel drive is a motorcycle.
Posi and a good set of tires. The only thing that should be one wheel drive is a motorcycle.
my "one wheel drive" Kawasaki will smoke about anyone on this board
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There is one of those cars that runs around here all the time. Back when I had my '88 Roc, I conned him into racin me one time at the track. He went 15.3x, and I went 14.60, in other words, a paddling. I had the stock 2.77 gears, all I had was headers and deleted air boxes. It was a 350, but, it had 135k on it too, hard miles truth be told. Having the stock tbi isn't helping you any, get a carb to put on that thing, and a good rear w/some gears and go destroy that guy. Good luck!
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Originally posted by vicV8rs91
my "one wheel drive" Kawasaki will smoke about anyone on this board
my "one wheel drive" Kawasaki will smoke about anyone on this board
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Oh, I'll try with the 1.3L Suzuki.
Oh, I'll try with the 1.3L Suzuki.
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If I race him from a roll he can catch up pretty good but fourth gear in my auo sucks so I found if I stay in third longer he has less of a chance to gain on me.
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As for anyone who is concerned about the people too close to the wall it was a private car show and they did not enforce the rules of the track, stupid but not my fault. Plus it was an import show my frinds shop organied and nothing there was fast enough to be concerned with. Actually they had some really kick a$$ cars but the owners were to affraid to race em'.
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LUVmy92: How is Piedmont? Havent been there yet, I may go out there this Sunday for one last Test n tune.. I think Farmington is done for this year. Do you have any idea how much it costs there on test n tune days? either way I think we should meet out there.
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Originally posted by vicV8rs91
my "one wheel drive" Kawasaki will smoke about anyone on this board
my "one wheel drive" Kawasaki will smoke about anyone on this board
actually, i scared the crap outta myself with the bottle and took it off 2 days after i got it.... i love power, i love liter class bikes, and i ride them as much as i can, but N2O on a motorcycle scared the crap outta me.
i prolly will try it again somtime though. im stupid like that
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Coqpit: Ive only been to Peidmont 2 times both for that car show. Its held by the Wheel Wharehouse of G'boro that my friend runs. Theres a show every spring and fall. I dont know the cost other than that of the show but I would love to get over there. My Camaro is down till next spring though but we should try to plan something.
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I have seen the light and its a shade of purple? Damn that thing looks like it hauls much a$$!
I have seen the light and its a shade of purple? Damn that thing looks like it hauls much a$$!
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Originally posted by 1bad91Z
I'll race your little motor cycle no prob !
I'll race your little motor cycle no prob !
ok, but you have to put a open diff in first..... this is a one wheel drive contest
btw: barney rules!
hehe, just givin ya ****.... that looks kinda like the same shade of purple that the 97 camaro had... same color?
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Hey Luvmy92 is your car a 305 or a 350? And is that all of your mods cause man that pic made me feel even worse about being about dead even with my friends 300zx How are those 3.73's working out for ya? I'm running the crappy stock 2.73's and I think that upgrading to 3.73's would help me out tremendously. What do ya'll think?
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I have a 305, the 3.73's are great. other than not getting my speedo recalibrated yet I think they were a big help in making it off the line way better. I think you would like it alot better. Plan on putting in a posi or something since your in there (I didnt ) and beware of any old parts that might be staying in there as far as spider gears and such. It cost me more than I will admit due to breaking TWO sets of Richmond gears due to old parts coming back to haunt me.
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Mods:
super coil w/ good plugs 8.8 wires and cap
stage 2 jet chip
Flowmaster cat back
3.73's
17x9.5's all around w/ Z rated Gforce TA's
super coil w/ good plugs 8.8 wires and cap
stage 2 jet chip
Flowmaster cat back
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17x9.5's all around w/ Z rated Gforce TA's
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I will tell you my friend cant drive that great (Im no professional either) maybe he should have done a little better but not much! In the picture above it looks like he forgot we were even at a drag strip or racing!
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The NA 300Z's are not much really. There is one around here all kitted out, full Stillen exhaust, JWT ECU, and more. That thing is a dog in lowed and still not impressive up top either really.
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Are you ready... can you handle this kind of speed??? Now dont be intimidated......OK serious do I have to tell???? Im trying to make it faster
10.45@67 in the 1/8th
He ran a 10.97@66.98
10.45@67 in the 1/8th
He ran a 10.97@66.98
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Are you ready... can you handle this kind of speed??? Now dont be intimidated......OK serious do I have to tell???? Im trying to make it faster
10.45@67 in the 1/8th
He ran a 10.97@66.98
Are you ready... can you handle this kind of speed??? Now dont be intimidated......OK serious do I have to tell???? Im trying to make it faster
10.45@67 in the 1/8th
He ran a 10.97@66.98
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Originally posted by LUVmy92
Are you ready... can you handle this kind of speed??? Now dont be intimidated......OK serious do I have to tell???? Im trying to make it faster
10.45@67 in the 1/8th
He ran a 10.97@66.98
Are you ready... can you handle this kind of speed??? Now dont be intimidated......OK serious do I have to tell???? Im trying to make it faster
10.45@67 in the 1/8th
He ran a 10.97@66.98
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How heavy was the probe? Also I had my tops out so aerodynamics could have played a part. I wasnt trying to race for best times I was racing to destroy some imports. It was an import show that a good friend setup but there were a couple domestics there to whoop a$$ on the strip. The only car to beat me was a turbo civic which was really done up, he BARELY beat me ,I had him by 2 cars but the turbo made up for him and he crept up and won by less than a quarter panel. Damn I should have had my tops in and windows up!
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Originally posted by LUVmy92
How heavy was the probe? Also I had my tops out so aerodynamics could have played a part. I wasnt trying to race for best times I was racing to destroy some imports. It was an import show that a good friend setup but there were a couple domestics there to whoop a$$ on the strip. The only car to beat me was a turbo civic which was really done up, he BARELY beat me ,I had him by 2 cars but the turbo made up for him and he crept up and won by less than a quarter panel. Damn I should have had my tops in and windows up!
How heavy was the probe? Also I had my tops out so aerodynamics could have played a part. I wasnt trying to race for best times I was racing to destroy some imports. It was an import show that a good friend setup but there were a couple domestics there to whoop a$$ on the strip. The only car to beat me was a turbo civic which was really done up, he BARELY beat me ,I had him by 2 cars but the turbo made up for him and he crept up and won by less than a quarter panel. Damn I should have had my tops in and windows up!
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Is that 300zx a manual or an auto? Cause I think one of the problems is that my friend's is a 5 speed and he can downshift into a lower gear and drag out the gears longer than I can with my auto. Do you think a shift kit would help any?
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The track was rented so no enforcement of rules really. They tried but they gave up from too many people. My friends is an auto so yeah I could see the shifting helping out alot. A shift kit will help somewhat.
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*Update*
Well, we havent been able to race in a while but I do have a better feeling about racing now. Apparently my IAC valve was messed up and causing my car to run extremley rich. So rich that it would ruin an 02 sensor in 2 days. Black smoke would just pour out of the car. Anyways, we replaced it and what a difference, the car runs so much smoother now and I have regained lost power from running too rich. My 0-60 times have gone from 7.3-7.4 to 6.9-7.3. My new best 0-60 is 6.76. I believe that these new times are due to replacing the IAC, me working on my launch and the car loves this cold,december air Anyways, I'm thinking that I definitley have the edge now. I might even be able to win from a roll....the car pulls so much better now. AS soon as we get a chance to rematch I will post an update. Oh and springtime is looking good seeing as how I got a new set of Goodyear Eagle's sittin in my basement just waiting for the weather to warm up. Those paired with the posi and gears I'm saving for I'm hoping to get the car into the mid to low 14's.
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Ya man winter sucks we cant do anything stupid east coast weather 70 one day then 30 the next, i cant wait to take mine out of the garage in the spring. This spring we gotta go crusin and chill with other 3rd and 4th gens. But we gotta keep building up our motors, but once again this weather sucks casue all i wanna do is take my car out and drive around ......oh well it'll happen soon
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*Update*
Well, we finally got to go at it one more time. We only got one light but it was still cool. I got a good launch and pulled quickly on him however he caught up pretty fast and it was a dead heat. However, me being an idiot I thought we were going too fast and slowed down( we actually were only going around 50mph). My friend is really happy cause he kept up with me. I'm thrilled that I'm actually giving him a run for his money. Good news is that we both lowered our 0-60 times, my best is a 6.66 and his is 7.22. Since we're both in it for the fun there's never any hard feelings so it's really cool. However, it's not too shabby for my stocker 350tbi. I do have a question though, I'm thrilled that it's running right finally but I got the thirst for more. It seems that the motor pulls fine to 50-60 but then it falls flat on it's face. I'm thinking that this could be because of me retaining my stock intake manifold and stock tbi. How much of a benefit would it be to get a better intake manifold and possibly the holley tbi or 454 tbi? New gears and posi is hopefully in my near future as well as new tires(they're in my basement)Anyways, I'll keep everyone updated with new times and races. AS soon as it warms up I should have some track times and alot more races to talk about
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the 300zx is pretty respectible to me. a NA runs low to mid 14's with a good driver and the TT run low to mid 13's with little tunning can hit 12's. a buddy of mine has a TT and we raced this guys saleen over the summer. we started at a red light getting onto the free way and he walked us. though once on that free way we started at a 40mph roll and and my buddy walked the saleen up to 130mph, saleen was far behind when we hit 130. the TT has damn good pull at high speeds
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low/mid 14s my ***. Stock NAs are pretty damned slow, they have 220hp (or was it officially 222hp? can't recall), not a lot of torque, and weigh about like an Fbody. Low 15s on average is more like it. Little optimistic on the turbo too, high 13s/low 14s more like it stock. Great competition for LT1s stock...
Your 350 is hardcore sick if this 300 is pulling on you at any point. My buddy had one, they are NOT fast. Took him out easily with my old mildly modded 305 TPI prior to several of my decent mods (murdered him with the cam and such). You should be dusting him with a decently setup 350. Have any specs on the Jasper 350? I was thinking it was supposed to be decent, just rebuilt smogger heads and such but it still should have enough power to take out this NA 300 seeing as how you have a nice exhaust setup, etc. You know the cam specs in it?
Even with 2.73s you outta be doing better IMO, especially how you're beating him off the line it seems, trouble seems to be a serious lack of power. If you've checked the usual crap like the timing, plugs/wires, etc I'm suspecting something with your engine swap/TBI, it isn't liking the 350. Some tuning is in order, maybe the guys on the TBI board can help you out... And I would definitely swap on a aftermarket intake.
Your 350 is hardcore sick if this 300 is pulling on you at any point. My buddy had one, they are NOT fast. Took him out easily with my old mildly modded 305 TPI prior to several of my decent mods (murdered him with the cam and such). You should be dusting him with a decently setup 350. Have any specs on the Jasper 350? I was thinking it was supposed to be decent, just rebuilt smogger heads and such but it still should have enough power to take out this NA 300 seeing as how you have a nice exhaust setup, etc. You know the cam specs in it?
Even with 2.73s you outta be doing better IMO, especially how you're beating him off the line it seems, trouble seems to be a serious lack of power. If you've checked the usual crap like the timing, plugs/wires, etc I'm suspecting something with your engine swap/TBI, it isn't liking the 350. Some tuning is in order, maybe the guys on the TBI board can help you out... And I would definitely swap on a aftermarket intake.
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Yeah I agree , I think you have a severe bottle neck somewhere. More then likely its the tbi and intake. Something is definetly holding back your true potential. But if your happy with its performance dont spend any more money.
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Well, the car seems to launch really well but then it's like it hits a brickwall. I'm sure the intake manifold and tbi could be holding it back. I'm also thinking about playing around with the fp. I have the stock regulator on the car right now and it sets at 12psi. I do have the vafp with the topdown solutions spring and delay valve that I could throw on there and see what happens. Anyways, I'm sure the motor has alot more potential but at least I can see that now Who knows, maybe Santa will help me out with some nice things to compliment the car. As soon as I get some cash I'm definitley gonna get a new intake and tbi. I'll keep you informed. Thanks for all the help.
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