Car dies if idled under ~900rpm
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Car: 1984 Camaro Z-28
Engine: SBC 355 Gen 1
Transmission: 700r4
Re: Car dies if idled under ~900rpm
A 700rpm drop under load is insane. I’ve done everything I can think to do and everything everyone one here has suggested I do—except replacing the torque converter.
I think I’m done. ready to sell this thing. I really just wanted a nice 78-81 four speed anyway but figured this could keep me entertained for a while. Didn’t think it would be such a money pit.
I think I’m done. ready to sell this thing. I really just wanted a nice 78-81 four speed anyway but figured this could keep me entertained for a while. Didn’t think it would be such a money pit.
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Re: Car dies if idled under ~900rpm
A 700rpm drop under load is insane. I’ve done everything I can think to do and everything everyone one here has suggested I do—except replacing the torque converter.
I think I’m done. ready to sell this thing. I really just wanted a nice 78-81 four speed anyway but figured this could keep me entertained for a while. Didn’t think it would be such a money pit.
I think I’m done. ready to sell this thing. I really just wanted a nice 78-81 four speed anyway but figured this could keep me entertained for a while. Didn’t think it would be such a money pit.
Something changed and you'll need to go back to fundamentals to track it down. The problem will be spark, fuel, or mechanical. Given the short time frame where something made a large shift, you need to back to fundamentals and understand why power at idle has dropped.
- Does the car have other driveability symptoms? Is power good, throttle response the same, and so forth.
- What is your fuel pressure and did your regulator shift setting?
- Is the timing the same? Initial and vacuum?
- Is the vacuum level in neutral the same?
- The carburetor is new and just installed. It is possible that a small piece of build related debris has found its way into an orifice.
- All the plug wires connected tight? Any audible misfire in the exhaust?
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Re: Car dies if idled under ~900rpm
Yes it's pretty much all business. LoL.
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Re: Car dies if idled under ~900rpm
You have proven that it is possible to to run at 1200 in park / 800 in gear and you know that to do better than that will likely require a torque converter change.
Something changed and you'll need to go back to fundamentals to track it down. The problem will be spark, fuel, or mechanical. Given the short time frame where something made a large shift, you need to back to fundamentals and understand why power at idle has dropped.
Something changed and you'll need to go back to fundamentals to track it down. The problem will be spark, fuel, or mechanical. Given the short time frame where something made a large shift, you need to back to fundamentals and understand why power at idle has dropped.
- Does the car have other driveability symptoms? Is power good, throttle response the same, and so forth.
- What is your fuel pressure and did your regulator shift setting?
- Is the timing the same? Initial and vacuum?
- Is the vacuum level in neutral the same?
- The carburetor is new and just installed. It is possible that a small piece of build related debris has found its way into an orifice.
- All the plug wires connected tight? Any audible misfire in the exhaust?
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If it was mine, I would start by checking the air bleed orifices (they ought to be in the air horn below the choke plate) to be certain they are clear. You can even spray a little carb cleaner down them. If that doesn't work, next would be to remove the carb and check the jets and idle feed orifices. The instructions show how to remove the base plate and access the jets. I would check that the primary jets are clean and that the idle feeds are clear. Don't use wire to clean them. I think that the red circled areas are the idle feeds, but I only have the picture to judge. Normally in this type of carb, the idle pick-up feeds are at the bottom of the bowl like in the picture, feed to the top of the bowl, then down the body to the mixture screw passages. It only takes a speck of debris to block these and mess up your idle. Watch for anything floating in the gas from the float bowl.
On a separate note, if you can get it back to 1200 / 800, they do have a paragraph regarding long duration cams. Yours isn't that long, but combined with your torque converter, this might apply to your situation. You should check your manifold vacuum at 800 in gear. If you're close to the 8-10 inch range, the metering rods may be lifting and richening your idle in gear vs in park.
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