Car drives funny no one knows. Need help!
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Car drives funny no one knows. Need help!
Hey guys
my 91 Camaro rs has 245/50r16 iroc wheels
no one can figure it out, live in small town not to many problem solving mechanics here, done a lot of work myself I rather work on my car then someone else but I am stuck and I need help. here is what it does.
-rubs badly on driver side, (front wheel hits the inner wheel well taking paint off)
- it will always screech when turning right from a stop
- I have to 2 point turn to get into parking slot.
- shakes when going over 100km (60mph)
- drives like a p.o.s
i have replaced
- center link
- sway bar (trans am gta one)
- end links
- front shocks
- rotors
- passenger ball joint
- inner/outer tie rods
- 6 wheel alignments in 3 years
- 3 gear box’s (finally our brand new one in)
- aftermarket knuckle steering shaft( problem was before upgrade)
the body panels seem to line up and be straight the body doesn’t seem crooked or nothing,
I really don’t want to get rid of my car but if I can’t solve this problem it’s not fun to drive.
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my 91 Camaro rs has 245/50r16 iroc wheels
no one can figure it out, live in small town not to many problem solving mechanics here, done a lot of work myself I rather work on my car then someone else but I am stuck and I need help. here is what it does.
-rubs badly on driver side, (front wheel hits the inner wheel well taking paint off)
- it will always screech when turning right from a stop
- I have to 2 point turn to get into parking slot.
- shakes when going over 100km (60mph)
- drives like a p.o.s
i have replaced
- center link
- sway bar (trans am gta one)
- end links
- front shocks
- rotors
- passenger ball joint
- inner/outer tie rods
- 6 wheel alignments in 3 years
- 3 gear box’s (finally our brand new one in)
- aftermarket knuckle steering shaft( problem was before upgrade)
the body panels seem to line up and be straight the body doesn’t seem crooked or nothing,
I really don’t want to get rid of my car but if I can’t solve this problem it’s not fun to drive.
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Re: Car drives funny no one knows. Need help!
What are your alignment specs?
Note that, per PTS's question, you probably have different front/rear wheels, if they're the stock IROC wheels but just painted. You may have something weird like 3 rears and one front or that sort of thing, even. Looking at your photo it does look like you have a rear on the front and vice-versa.
Note that, per PTS's question, you probably have different front/rear wheels, if they're the stock IROC wheels but just painted. You may have something weird like 3 rears and one front or that sort of thing, even. Looking at your photo it does look like you have a rear on the front and vice-versa.
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Ya I’ve checked that before both rears say rear on them. It also does it when I have my turbine belenetta wheels on it.
factory alignment didn’t work nice for this car so I got one I found off the forum and it handles it better but still rubs on the front driver.
factory alignment didn’t work nice for this car so I got one I found off the forum and it handles it better but still rubs on the front driver.
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Re: Car drives funny no one knows. Need help!
Factory alignment specs NEVER work well. They are GARBAGE. However, a better alignment will make the rubbing worse, because it moves the wheel rearwards in the well.
These cars have always had issues with parking-lot situations, from the day they rolled off the showroom floor. ALL of them. To some extent it's just something you have to live with.
Do both fronts say "front" on them?
Shaking is more likely a tire problem or a bent axle. Could be a bent wheel but not as likely. Easy enough to find out: put the rear axle on jack stands under the axle tubes - not on a floor jack under the pumpkin, not on stacks of bricks, NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT anything else other than JACK STANDS UNDER THE AXLE TUBES - have your assistant sit in the car, put it in gear, and run the wheel speed up to 30 mph or so. Watch for wheel runout, and of course, odd lumps in the tires. POS 1-piece tires like BFG are particularly bad about this. If you see that, swap the wheels side to side, and see what happens. If it moves to the other side, it's the wheel; if it stays, it's the axle. You can check your fronts the same way once you know the axles are straight.
These cars have always had issues with parking-lot situations, from the day they rolled off the showroom floor. ALL of them. To some extent it's just something you have to live with.
Do both fronts say "front" on them?
Shaking is more likely a tire problem or a bent axle. Could be a bent wheel but not as likely. Easy enough to find out: put the rear axle on jack stands under the axle tubes - not on a floor jack under the pumpkin, not on stacks of bricks, NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT anything else other than JACK STANDS UNDER THE AXLE TUBES - have your assistant sit in the car, put it in gear, and run the wheel speed up to 30 mph or so. Watch for wheel runout, and of course, odd lumps in the tires. POS 1-piece tires like BFG are particularly bad about this. If you see that, swap the wheels side to side, and see what happens. If it moves to the other side, it's the wheel; if it stays, it's the axle. You can check your fronts the same way once you know the axles are straight.
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Re: Car drives funny no one knows. Need help!
You didn't mention your control arms, engine cradle or sub-frame bolt locations for the control arms..........
Could have been impact damage; damage that your not just gonna' see and could easily look right past. Something significant enough to tweak the front sub-frame while wrecking other - more easily replaceable - parts. ( You Know; "my sister borrowed my car and drove over the median at 45mph ! ) Any impact to the wheel / front control arm could bend/twist the cradle or sub-frame mounting points and the control arm doesn't even have to appear to be "destroyed" - but stuff is still "tweaked".
I'd inspect the current mounting location of your steering box and compare it in as many ways as possible with as many other Thirdgen I could get a look at. I'd also look at the sub-frame mounting points for each control arm and the control arm itself.
The problem is obviously not the parts you've bought,....... so I'm guessing that it's what your bolting everything to that's suspect.
Could have been impact damage; damage that your not just gonna' see and could easily look right past. Something significant enough to tweak the front sub-frame while wrecking other - more easily replaceable - parts. ( You Know; "my sister borrowed my car and drove over the median at 45mph ! ) Any impact to the wheel / front control arm could bend/twist the cradle or sub-frame mounting points and the control arm doesn't even have to appear to be "destroyed" - but stuff is still "tweaked".
I'd inspect the current mounting location of your steering box and compare it in as many ways as possible with as many other Thirdgen I could get a look at. I'd also look at the sub-frame mounting points for each control arm and the control arm itself.
The problem is obviously not the parts you've bought,....... so I'm guessing that it's what your bolting everything to that's suspect.
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