1991sleeper

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I'm gonna say yes but figured I'd ask ... its either this or go buy a wet kit with around 100-150 shot for 650$ but I'd really rather have the extra power all the time lol

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Gumby

never is if its what you want, cept check laws, caught with it hooked up is an automatic street racing ticket in allot of states now [ thanks to fast n fake movies] which can get your car crushed.

DeltaElite121

Go price a tank fill and you'll change your mind very quickly. Doesn't take much to drain one, heh.

1gary

One of the best power adders going on a 305 is a turbo.Nitrous is a never ending payments in bottle fills for afew moments of fame.That gets old in a hurry.

1991sleeper

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I just figured the price would b too good to b true and everything would start breaking , leaking etc in a month ...

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1991sleeper

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91' bird 305 TBI T-5, trick flow heads, 4.10 gears, full UMI setup, track times coming soon!

1991sleeper

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I thought I posted that pic in op so that's the kit I was talking about

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1991sleeper

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antman89iroc

Seriously? Wow but I shouldn't be surprised really. It's like they can read your mind or something and arrest you for "what you might do". A law like that is absolutely ridiculous. Big brother can kiss my big ol butt.

Gumby

They did that here in Ohio, only cause turbos and superchargers came on cars factory, are not subject to such a law. or they would have been included.

Get GM to put NOS stock on a car and there goe the law

But all the riiicer racing movies ruined it as they feared street racing would come to their town and kill their kids.

1991sleeper

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So 600$ turbo kit = junk ? Or worth a shot ? I mean 600$ ain't much really .. and if a turbo took a crap just buy another one for 150-200$ ... but I know if I buy a 600$ wet kit I ain't gonna have to buy it again ... my budget is $1k for a power adder no more hopefully less ... I'm open to suggestions ... my dad has mig & tig welder 4 post lift etc. so if I need it I got it

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antman89iroc

I have never done a turbo so take this with a grain of salt.

I have doubt that a turbo install can be done right for 1k. It seems way more involved than just the turbo and some plumbing. Ask some of the guys like Orr. I know you are wanting a bang for you buck but that seems low to me.

Nitrous is great but it ain't like fast and furious. I run an adjustable kit 125-200WHP. Man this thing gets big. 500HP total is fun and it cut ~1sec off my 1/8 mile times. However, it does go quickly and the one time I had a smart a$$ beside me and the chance to show off a little what do you think happened? Of course my bottle was off and I just tried to ignore him. I'm building a "full time power" motor this time.

Here's another experience. I bought some of the inexpensive aluminum heads. Wanted to do it on the cheap so I took the sellers word regarding push rod lengths. After about a year and only a couple thousand miles I started having problems. Terrible noise, broken parts and it didn't even give a boost in performance. In the end it was a waste of $1100 because I am not using any of the parts on my new build.

Paying more doesn't always mean you get more but buying the cheapest usually means you get less. It took me a long time to really get this.

Which ever route you go adding a lot of power to a stock bottom end generally ends up being a disappointment. My slightly warmed over L98 has started to use oil and lost compression after my nitrous install. Coincidence? Maybe, but I feel it was because I forced a bottom end to do something it wasn't designed to do.

Even Spicoli's dad had "an awesome set of tools" but it's really what you learn to do with them that matters. Take some time, build a motor with you pops. You'll be glad you did someday. I know I am.

I don't say any of this to discourage you, quite the opposite. I want to encourage you to really think about your goals and common sense will tell you the answer to your question grass hopper. There really are no short cuts to power. Even if the kit returned the advertised power what about the trans, rear, suspension. It really is a package deal.

PS if any of you get a chuckle out of my references, don't laugh too hard, you're an old fart too!

1991sleeper

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The engine is already built along with suspension rear end etc .. only piece of drive train that's stock is the trans .. but I believe I'm just go a work on making it look better now anyway .. mabey go back down to 3.73 gears instead of 4.10's .. or swap in a 6 speed idk yet

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FRMULA88

I had a 150 HP plate kit on my TBI engine 16 years ago. IMHO it was the best mod for the money and transformed the car.

it cost me 500$ plus I ran a dedicated fuel line, pump, and regulator for the nitrous system, bottle heater, and cover.. about 800$ all in.
The kit had a 20# bottle and I recall to refill it was 40 $ (2.00$ / LB)

At the track a full bottle was good for 4-5 passes. I used it on the street on occasion but you are correct ,you will need to have some self-control because you are not going to leave the system on all the time.

So some quick math; 4 passes @ $40 refill = 10$ per run.

How many runs are you going to make on the bottle before you pay for a turbo kit?

It's not for everyone but a mild kit is not going to hurt a stock motor especially if it's tuned correctly.

On the flipside: There still some heavy hitters at the track that swear by it, because the initial cost of a well built N2O system (think 2 or 3 stage 500-1000 HP system) is still less than another power adder even if you have to pay for the refills. Sometimes it is just easier to pay 100-300$ for the gas every track outing, than it is to bust the nut for a $4,500 supercharger or turbo system up front.

But I will say this, once I saved up and built a bigger/better engine I never used my old N2O system. I wound up selling it a few years ago. Still it was fun while it lasted.. waste of time/money is left to interpretation... if you did not learn anything or have fun doing it.. then I would say yes.

antman89iroc

Some good points here. I did not mean to imply nitrous "hurts" engines. Especially if you use it in mild levels.

cuisinartvette

Lasttime I priced out a turbo kit no matter how I sliced it came out to about 5k to do everything right.Turbo/supercharger take your pick

If you bought an unknown unit and cobbled things together maybe less but those usually end up in expensive broken parts.

1991sleeper

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I think I'm gonna save up for the wynjammer pro charger kit .. 10psi sounds like plenty on 10:1 CR

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