Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!

Carbon build up on pistons

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-01-2013, 11:00 AM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
sotodn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dover AFB, Delaware
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Carbon build up on pistons

Just recently I was lucky enough to pick up a 350 short block and two heads for $140. Everything is in pretty decent shape and for the most part this engine looks like all it needs is a good cleaning, which brings me to the pistons. I dissembled the engine and I am trying to clean off the build up of carbon on the piston tops. Ive tried soaking them in degreaser and even mineral spirits. They look alot better but are still covered with stubborn carbon. Any body have any tips on how to remove all the lingering carbon?
Attached Thumbnails Carbon build up on pistons-img_0081.jpg   Carbon build up on pistons-img_0078.jpg   Carbon build up on pistons-img_0080.jpg  
Old 06-01-2013, 11:33 AM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (8)
 
TTOP350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Il
Posts: 11,725
Received 773 Likes on 520 Posts
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

This stuff is NASTY.

Old 06-01-2013, 11:33 AM
  #3  
Supreme Member

 
8t2 z-chev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: belle fourche,s.d.
Posts: 2,149
Received 60 Likes on 54 Posts
Car: '82 z28
Engine: L83 5.7
Transmission: 700r4-1985
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

oven cleaner works good
Old 06-01-2013, 11:42 AM
  #4  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (3)
 
92RS_Ttop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,359
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: Rebuilt 350 going in after paint
Transmission: WCT5, 7k & counting behind the 350
Axle/Gears: 4thgen disc rear w/ 3.73 Posi
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

When I cleaned the pistons during my last engine build, I used a wire wheel in my dremel. Just have be careful as it will scratch the surface of the pistons.
Old 06-01-2013, 11:44 AM
  #5  
Member
Thread Starter
 
sotodn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dover AFB, Delaware
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Hmmm Ive heard about that chem dip stuff, someone at my shop told me about that. Unfortunately being that my Camaro took a crap on me (that's the reason for the engine) I am going to have to walk to the commissary on base and pick up some oven cleaner. Darn
Old 06-01-2013, 12:29 PM
  #6  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (8)
 
TTOP350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Il
Posts: 11,725
Received 773 Likes on 520 Posts
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Tip: the longer you let it soak without drying out, the better it all works.
Old 06-01-2013, 01:08 PM
  #7  
Supreme Member

 
8t2 z-chev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: belle fourche,s.d.
Posts: 2,149
Received 60 Likes on 54 Posts
Car: '82 z28
Engine: L83 5.7
Transmission: 700r4-1985
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

same thing with the oven cleaner-i think i used EZ-off,took about 4 soak/spray off cycles to get the pistons clean as new.
Old 06-01-2013, 02:08 PM
  #8  
Supreme Member
 
zraffz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sussex County, NJ
Posts: 1,402
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 1994 Z28
Engine: 355 LT1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Permatex Gasket Remover works on everything. It even makes oxidized aluminum manifolds look brand new.
Old 06-01-2013, 02:36 PM
  #9  
Member
Thread Starter
 
sotodn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dover AFB, Delaware
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Damn, I never know so much stuff is good at removing carbon, thanks guys. Maybe I am also a little impatient, I'm sure this process takes time and alot of elbow grease.
Old 06-01-2013, 03:05 PM
  #10  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (3)
 
92RS_Ttop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,359
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: Rebuilt 350 going in after paint
Transmission: WCT5, 7k & counting behind the 350
Axle/Gears: 4thgen disc rear w/ 3.73 Posi
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Originally Posted by zraffz
Permatex Gasket Remover works on everything. It even makes oxidized aluminum manifolds look brand new.
Oven cleaner will do that too. Also works good on the aluminum bed rail caps for trucks.
Old 06-01-2013, 06:19 PM
  #11  
Member
Thread Starter
 
sotodn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dover AFB, Delaware
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Thanks guys, ultimately I used oven cleaner to clean the pistons. Let them soak then used fine grain steel wool and finally rinsed them in water. I think I should be able to get away with this...
Attached Thumbnails Carbon build up on pistons-img_0084.jpg   Carbon build up on pistons-img_0086.jpg  
Old 06-01-2013, 09:44 PM
  #12  
Supreme Member

 
cuisinartvette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sanctuary state
Posts: 1,780
Likes: 0
Received 27 Likes on 24 Posts
Car: 67 ******mobile
Engine: 385 Solid roller
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Thats fine what you got there.
Unless its totally disassembled I leave the carbon on. Free compression
Old 06-01-2013, 10:29 PM
  #13  
Member
Thread Starter
 
sotodn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dover AFB, Delaware
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Ha Ha, maybe I should scrape some up and put it back on the pistons.
Old 06-01-2013, 10:51 PM
  #14  
Member
Thread Starter
 
sotodn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dover AFB, Delaware
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Not sure If it is mandatory to hot tank the block and clean it up...its not too bad
Old 06-01-2013, 11:52 PM
  #15  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (8)
 
TTOP350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Il
Posts: 11,725
Received 773 Likes on 520 Posts
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Those chunks in the eyebrows will chip out with a small dull screwdriver.
Old 06-01-2013, 11:56 PM
  #16  
Member
Thread Starter
 
sotodn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dover AFB, Delaware
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Yeah I'm just trying to be careful with it so I don't scratch the head of the piston.
Old 06-02-2013, 12:04 AM
  #17  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (8)
 
TTOP350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Il
Posts: 11,725
Received 773 Likes on 520 Posts
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

As long as its just a very light scratch your ok. Its the skirts,ringlands you don't want to scratch.
Just don't gouge the krap out of it!
Old 06-02-2013, 12:27 AM
  #18  
Member
Thread Starter
 
sotodn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dover AFB, Delaware
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Very true, the face of the piston isn't as load bearing as the skirts are....I think I'm gonna upload some more pictures..I'm trying to get this motor together correctly, but as cheap and quick as possible. I think I'm doing pretty well because I picked up the short block for $140 and the guy said it was rebuilt about 10,000 miles ago. Looks pretty new just has some grime on it.
Old 06-02-2013, 08:39 AM
  #19  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (3)
 
92RS_Ttop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,359
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: Rebuilt 350 going in after paint
Transmission: WCT5, 7k & counting behind the 350
Axle/Gears: 4thgen disc rear w/ 3.73 Posi
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Originally Posted by sotodn1
Not sure If it is mandatory to hot tank the block and clean it up...its not too bad
Hot tanking isn't necessary if its not too gunked up. When I did mine, I just used a bunch of simple green to degrease the surfaces of it. Then I used my wife's Shark steam cleaner to get in the oil passages(boy, was she pissed when she found out!). I used a cheap set of round wire brushes in various sizes I picked up from Harbor Freight to make sure all the passages were clear, and a set of thread taps to chase all the old sealant out of the bolt threads. It's a very, very messy job.
Old 06-02-2013, 10:46 PM
  #20  
Member
Thread Starter
 
sotodn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dover AFB, Delaware
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1986 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Carbon build up on pistons

Hmmm...I think Ill have to see what I'm working with. I live on base housing so I must be careful how much crap I blow areound the garage/driveway lol
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
manualbrakes.com
Brakes
63
04-09-2024 11:55 AM
6speedIROC
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
16
03-15-2023 08:33 PM
Jorlain
Tech / General Engine
6
10-08-2015 01:57 AM
Mongoose462ci
North East Region
0
09-16-2015 11:46 PM
TexasMaro
Organized Drag Racing and Autocross
2
09-15-2015 06:50 PM



Quick Reply: Carbon build up on pistons



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:54 AM.