DiabloWS6

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is it bad to use 4qt oil and a restore and lucas oil stabilizer with out overfiling of course

jtsk

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I hope not because I have been doing it for years.

ibmtech

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I am not a scientific expert but it seems like an overkill do it every time if you are using the car all the time. I don't see the benefit of the restore and stabilizer on every oil change unless you either don't trust the oil you use or you are having engine troubles, I guess. I don't think it will hurt anything though. Every has their preference as I used to only use 8 qts of Valvoline 20W50 on my old engine and now it is 8 qts of Royal Purple Synthetic 20W50. So it all a matter of preference.

DiabloWS6

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I wanted know if it harm the engine, got into debate/argument at work about using.the restore along with lucas and oil reason being oil already has detergents to fight sludge but additives help as well to do that and more just want to know what im doing is wrong or right

one92rs

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most synthetic oils or really good engine oils have additives in them.

five7kid

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Whatever oil you're using, search for their customer tech service number, give them a call and ask about using some other company's additive. You'll get the same answer from any one of them - not needed, will not help, we won't back our product if something else is added to it.

Yes, all oils have "additives". But, all oils are formulated to meet the requirements stated. Put more in, even if it's more of the same additives they used in their formulation, and the final "product" will likely not meet the requirements that the original formulation did.

Use the best oil that meets your needs, and don't try to improve it.

(FWIW, several years ago the 3800 in our Bonneville broke a cam. I found a replacement engine, was told it was good, turned out it had low compression in 2 cylinders. I suspect it was left exposed outside before they sold it to me. I used Restore, maybe brought compression up 5 psi - probably as much due to the fresh oil as the Restore. Kept using it over the next couple of years, no improvement after the first use.)

DiabloWS6

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True

DiabloWS6

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Seems to make sense especially with your personal experience with the bonne

sofakingdom

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The more additives you put in, the less oil there is.

Explain how having less oil is somehow "good".

If you can manage that, then you're ready to leave some of the oil out and put something else in instead.

ibmtech

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DiabloWS6

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You have a point but Lucas is an oil stabilizer right so doesn't it help the oil on the other hand restore is different than Lucas

Apeiron

How is oil "unstable" that a "stabilizer" would provide any benefit?

DiabloWS6

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Not saying oil is unstable but will make the oil thicker and help to stop any minor oil leaks with lucas

Apeiron

If oil needed to be "thicker" engine manufacturers would specify it that way, and if you've got a leak you need a new gasket or seal instead of snake oil.

At best, additives are a solution in search of a problem.

TTOP350

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Don't waste your money on gimmicks..

DiabloWS6

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Not all oil is created equal conventional is basic or just the bare essentials but adding lucas to make it perform a lil better doesnt hurt it either i may be wrong but the way i look at it js why do you put chevron , or shell or any gas that has additives to clean intake valves and so on right why not just put regular gas and buy a fuel injector cleaner that does the same thing now wont oil additives be in similar function

ibmtech

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I had to read that 3 times and am still confused.. LOL

DiabloWS6

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Well thats the bottle says oil stabilizer

Apeiron

Explain how Lucas, or any other additive, makes it "perform a lil better".

tzim350HO

Q: How do I use Lucas Oil Stabilizer in my vehicle?
A: It is recommended that you add the Oil Stabilizer with every oil change (20% Stabilizer, 80% Oil). You may also use the stabilizer to top off between oil changes in order to help reduce oil consumption in an older engine, or maintain peak performance in a new engine.
Q: How many miles do I need to have on my vehicle before I can start using Lucas Oil Stabilizer?
A: You don't have to have a specific amount of wear before you start using our Oil Stabilizer. We use it in brand new engines ourselves! Put in a quart each time you change the oil in your car. You should be able to go at least 50% longer between oil changes and your engine will last much, much longer.
Q: Can I use Lucas Oil Stabilizer in anything else in my vehicle besides my engine?A; Yes, In addition to being great for your engine, you can also mix it 25% / 75% in the transmission (manual requiring gear oil) and 50% / 50% in the differential. Lucas Oil Stabilizer blends with any petroleum-based or synthetic oil, and is formulated for gasoline or diesel engines. Q: Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer seems pretty thick, Can I use it in my small car that requires light weight oil?A: In newer and smaller vehicles that require light weight oils such as 5W-30, we recommend our Pure Synthetic Oil Stabilizer. Pure Synthetic Stabilizer was developed specifically for engines that run on lighter weight engine oils and in newer vehicles. Q: Will using Lucas Stabilizer void the factory warranty on my new vehicle?
A: No, using Lucas Stabilizer will not void a new car warranty. Stabilizer is a 100% petroleum product that will blend with both synthetic and non-synthetic oils

^From lucas site!!

Ive personally used it all of my vehicles including my race car with no problems EVER!

DiabloWS6

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Thats is a good explination from there site..i just wanted to get to the bottom of this there may be many unanswered questions and other answers that will have more answers but it does not seem its bad to use additives in your engine

tzim350HO

I think its all just a matter of personal preference. May have had some people try additives with problems that already existed knocking, banging, smoking blah blah blah! Then when the motor crapped out they wanted to blame the additive when it didnt miraculously cure an engine knock, smoke, etc. Bottom line is take better care of your engine and you may not find yourself in such a shitty pair of shoes like others have been. Just saying!

DiabloWS6

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That makes a lot of sense im sure it happens all the time

Restrorob

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Think about it people, If these snake oils were any good, don't you think the oil companies would jump the band wagon and cash in ?

Wouldn't you think auto manufactures would be listing the use of these snake oils in owner's manuals ?

This pretty much sums it up;

DiabloWS6

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My question has been answer thanks everyone for all the great info

sofakingdom

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Now THERE'S an unbiased, disinterested, trustworthy, reliable source whose honesty and integrity cannot possibly be doubted, which clearly has YOUR best interests at heart at all times, without ANY hint of interest on their part, financial or otherwise, in your maintenance program; and nothing to gain or lose based on your choices in your vehicle maintenance program. Isn't it wonderful that such thoughtful people were kind enough to take time out of their busy schedule to give out such useful advice containing so much valuable information, and that their information is so thoroughly documented with proof and long-term measurements of the products' effectiveness, and that they did all this for free? Isn't all that statistical research just MAGNIFICENT that they put on their site documenting their claims, where they took fleets of hundreds or even thousands of cars and split them in half and put their product in the one half and not in the other and measured engine longevity, gas mileage, maintenance cost, and so on, just a masterpiece of solid scientific and engineering honesty? And we can all be absolutely 100% ironclad CERTAIN that it's true, since after all, when Algore invented the Internet, he made it so that no one (except of course the evil Tea Party Republicans and other such reactionaries) can POSSIBLY use it in any way that won't promote the general welfare, and so that EVERYTHING you see on it is TRUE? Is this a great country, OR WHAT?

"There's a sucker born every minute, and 2 to take him."

I think we just found one of the first kind of those people, and 1 of the other 2 as well.