therckid

i still cant drive for crap in the snow. today was my first day driving in the snow. and i'd be driving down the freeway and all the sudden my rear would goto the side, and when i parked at the amll, my rear slid to the right like 3 inches..



How do you guys deal with it?


Shane

Damon

You don't drive Camaros in the snow and ice.

Real snow tires (on all 4 wheels) like the "Blizzak" tires will help some, but expect no miracles. V8 engines driving the rear wheels with no weight over them does not make for a fun winter driver.

therckid

i was soooo scared, people kept flicking me off cause i was driving like 30mph on a 60mph freeway.....




it was kinda cool tho, did donuts in the parking lot...

wrightz28

In my old Camaro I used to a 50 lb salt block on each side of the cargo area. it helped a little.

That was a carbed and nearly stock motor. Got real fun when the choke would stick (usually about once a month).

Now that I hvae TPI and enhanced motor, no way in heck are you going to find it on the road, part of the lesson learned from my other camaro: road salt + unibody = subframe rot & seperation.

Took 7 years, but atleast I finally got another one.

Red Devil

I never had a problem. :shrug:

I told you before Shane, get something else for the winter, you'll kill yourself in that car with the limited experience you have behind the wheel in the snow.

ljnowell

Shane, this thread belongs in the Mid-West board, not on general tech/engine. Follow the board rules, please.

As far as driving in the snow, I have lived here my whole life. I have driven in St. Louis, in the snow, in my F-body for many years. Drive like you have at least half a brain(sometimes difficult, I am sure) and its not a big deal. Dont try to speed up quickly, drive slow and cautiously, and hopefully you wont add to the headache of all the stupid drivers. The rear of your car will not "kick out sideways" unless you are driving like an asshat.

*** help everyone here. Please people, pray for us, Shane is driving here in snow.

therckid

gys i am being very carefull, trust me, i'm scared to death and i could die if somehting happens, who would want that?

Nate86

Perhaps you shouldn't ask questions like that with the "reputation" that you've earned here.

therckid

iunno, but i was driving lke 30mph down i-270 when the speedlimit was 60, and people kept flicking me off...

88TPI406GTA

And they don't even read your posts on Thirdgen

What kind of tires are you running?

therckid

cooper zeon 2xs maxiumum performance summer tires in the rear....

88TPI406GTA

What are you running for front tires?

wrightz28

Umm, I don't mean to be a smarty, but, read your statement and assess the problem here for a moment.

92MaroRS

that is your problem right there. get some SNOW TIRES. none of this all season bs ither. get some good Blizzaks or something similar. plus toss a couple of sand bags in the hatch well.

ME Leigh

Well theres your problem, those are summer only tires, they should not even be used in weather below 50*. When those tires get cold the become like glass, really hard and have absolutely no traction.

You've got the wrong tires on there.

With all-season tires i usually don't have a problem around town (35mph) but if i was gonna drive somewhere it would definitely have snow tires. Preferably studded. Or don't drive it at all, get something fwd for the snow.

88TPI406GTA

Doh...you guys stole my thunder...

Yes Shane...you need S N O W tires...I would try the Kumho snow tires at tirerack.com...you can't beat the price...

You want a narrower tire for snow and they make it in the 215/65/15 size so you can get a cheap set of 15s from a junkyard...

PLUS...add some weight in the trunk.

If you properly equip your car, you can drive in the winter...what did people do in the 1960's and 1970's? They didn't stay home

ljnowell

You know, I have had a change of heart shane. Dont drive slow. Drive as fast as you can. Specifically, go down I-70 by the airport. Have fun.

flrtin1

Shane I had this conversation with you a couple of weeks ago before you got new tires .....one more example of you never listening to anything people tell you sooooo
I told you so

THEGENERAL

if you would just learn to drive on dry pavement then maybe the slick stuff wouldnt be so bad...LOL

as far as snow tires ive driven rear wheel drive camaro's, firebirds, and many other rwd vehicles in the winter just throw a hundred or so pounds of sand bags in the rear of the car and drive like you have a brain and you will be okay just remember you always have to slow down alot earlier than you do normally


iunno and yeah this doesnt belong in the Tech/General Engine board ...d00d

nsimmons

I drove a 4 hour road trip with bald rears, i mean BALD (you could see steel) through a blizzard, in fog at 3am up in the mountains in a corvette. I had no choice i had to go. I drove slow about 1/3 the speed limit and didnt have a single problem even driving on sheets of ice. You need to realize that the car will not turn with any accuracy going any speed above 20mph, and plan your moves in advance. Never ever give it any throttle unless you are perfectly straight.

Find a parking lot and see how it responds to different throttle and steering inputs before you try it on the freeway.

ljnowell

I drove my 87 camaro daily through all of the snow 65 miles each way to work in College and work in St. Louis. Quit whining shane.

I'm guessing that this one will be locked soon, like most of shanes Off-topic threads.

JeffW

ok i gotta ask..even if i may not want to know


How Much Snow Does Florida Get? last i checked oldies when there cause it was warm.......or is you member info wrong?

summer tires in the snow pffft..... get a beater for the winter

kretos

only reason your back end would ever kick out while driving is because your giving it too muh throttle, go get some winter tires before you kill someone

Red Devil

Jeff, he's in Illinois or something like.

Getting a beater was previously mentioned (and recommended) and IIRC he was to 'rent' his Dad's truck.

therckid

yes guys, i was ummm not giving it throttle when i was slipping it was mostly when i was going up and down hill... so... iunnoo....

it was just scary to me.....

I want a beater but i dont have the money for one....

my dad will rent me his 4x4 s-10 zr2 but its not snow season yet so... why start renting....




shane

92MaroRS

HELLO your in the midwest snow season started a month ago, we've just been lucky so far.

therckid

welll hmm, i think friday i'll be going to get some bags of sand as thats what my dad said i should try before getting any snow tires...

And if that dont work, then we will try snow tires...

but do i need snow tires on all 4 or the rear 2 or what?

92MaroRS

if all you want to do is have some take off traction and keep the *** in place then the rear. if you want to be able to do that PLUS steer and stop then get all 4, still at that do not drive like its dry out.

therckid

i know cheaper tires arn't the best ones but i got the two new reares for $86 plus tax... so i'm not complaining as of now.... next i'll be gettign BFG Gforce KDW.... so i wont be going cheap then...

kretos

because your on here complaining about lack of traction?


you have to be joking, you wonder why your SUMMER tires don't do well in snow, and you wonder why you start renting because its not full blown yet?

:yourock:

ME Leigh

No matter what your rear tires are worthless in the cold, snow... They are summer tires only. Don't even try driving with them anymore. You could find some cheap all-season tires and use them, you could even use used tires in the rear.

therckid

what about these guys, my budget could allow these tires...



http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

kretos

they are for light snow, since you get heavy snow, its a no.

try these

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

dunlop makes one hell of a tire and at only 10 bucks more a tire its well worth it, then you take em off the rims and put em back on next year

THEGENERAL

or find an old set of rims to mount the snow tires on ......

but all honestly ive lived in central illinois my whole life and have never really had a problem with the snow at all i dont understand what your problem is shane ........

its not that difficult to drive on snow its pretty simple ...and as a side note your always going to have tire spin in your car on the snow man so just relax and drive slow ....

or umm iunno start renting the rents truk but iunno if you should umm iunno d00d...

kretos

last year we had a freak snow storm up here, i drove on the freeway with 4 inches snow and under 10 feet of visibilty and i came out fine. driving in the snow just takes patience and a light foot

therckid

i guess, i just gotta get used to it, it was my first time driving in the darn snow and it scared me.... but i'll sorta be prepared for next time.....i just hope the roads arn't as bad next time otherwise it'll be me riding the bus to school and hopefully bu the end of it the salt will be down.... I am just gonna have to wash the car down with warm water everyonce in a while...

therckid

oh trust me i had a very light foot, i felt stupid being the last person to make it throuigh an intersection on a green light.....


but i dont want to completely invest in snow tires becuase i will be moving back to florida in like june so its not worth the money just yet....

kretos

grab your car and go down to your local walmart tonight late, practice driving in the snow

therckid

snow is all gone bro its already starting to heat up so.....


i will next time..... hmmm when is next time i hope its soon, i love ths snow already....

kretos

trust me, if you crack your car up or rear end someone, your gonna wish you hand;t been cheap

therckid

i know i have a bad feeling i jyned it when i said that.... so..

kretos

ah buy the tires and un jynx yourself, plus if the dunlops don't have much wear on them you could easily sell them

ME Leigh

You absolutely can't drive with those tires. Summer only..

Go to a tire place and see what you can get used. You don't need much just a set of used all-season or snow tires. THey only cost $10-15.

No way your going anywhere with those tires.

therckid

$10-15 for used snow tires?



what size will be best?

and also, where should i look for used tires, who sells them in the local area?

ME Leigh

Any tire place will have piles of them.

look for 215/65-15, 205/70-15, 195/75-15

kretos

well are your rims 15 or 16"?


if they are 16" get a set of 15" rims from a junkyard and mount the snow tires.

i know when i first had 15" tires my car was great in the snow, now with the 16", well it'll handle like my buddys 89 gta. its the difference between and ice skate and a sleigh

therckid

i'll just shop around for some 16" snow tires that are used....

i dont really want to down grade to 15" just for the summer then have to sell those rims even cheaper then i bought them for.... so....

JeffW

hello do your home work read you posts... kdw's are dry tires ok in wet but forget the snow they won;t work for you either....so even thought they cost more it will be wasted money.. get winter tires on steel rims leave em mounted all year swap em on in the winter.

jeff

ME Leigh

It will cost the same or more to get your tires mounted, balanced, dismounted, remounted, then it would just to get some crap steel rims and mount the tires once.

therckid

steel rims, where can i get them to match our crappy offset?