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Old 07-28-2003, 10:16 AM
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TOTW - 7-28-03 - Been gone for a while. Come back and tell us your new mods/results

Topic of the week has been dead for a while. as you can see some have brought back the totw-pics of ultimate tbi..

im gona do my best to bring this idea back. send ideas for the next 3 months of totw to me at snflupigus@hotmail.com

well keep this thing going.

later

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Old 07-28-2003, 10:34 AM
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Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: Juiced 5.0 TBI - 300rwhp
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton Posi, 10 Bolt
Mods:
Suspension - (right now since i broke a few peices)
Spohn Panhard
SwayBars
Poly Bushings (sway-bars, Trans-mount)
in the current setup, factory torque arm, and LCA's ( see above reason)

Engine -
stock but K&N, 160* t-stat, 5/8" TBI Spacer.

Exaust -
3" Catco Hi-Flow CAT
3" Flowmaster American Thunder

Driveline
Lightweight GMPP Flywheel
Centerforce DF clutch
Pro-5.0 Shifter
LS1 Alum. Driveshaft
Eaton Posi
3.42 Richmond gears

i went to the track like this, with full interior, and the works. on crapy 235/60/r15 BFG Radial TA tires.

results : 16.1@87mph , i was only able to get a 2.64 60' time (tires suck, and so did the track), also, i was having some problem with my custom chip, so that was done on the factory chip, with 0* of timing, i normaly run a chip with 4* built in, and some working over of spark and fuel tables. i know there is a 15.7-15.8 run in this car, if i could get some traction.

i also dyno'd this before the exasut mods, with a clogged CAT, i was only able to best 110rwhp (at 2200 rpm, thank you clogged cat) but did put down 255rwtq at that same point 2200rpm) after that it fell on its face.

BTW, snflupigus, i really like the TOTW, it helps keep the board from having the same 4 questions all the time

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Old 07-28-2003, 11:18 AM
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Car: 2001 Camaro SS
Engine: LS1
Transmission: A4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
LT1 cam and z28 valve springs
Edelbrock TBI Performer manifold
3.42 richmond gears and SLP posi unit (big seat-of-pants difference)
MSD 6A ingnition box and Blaster Coil

Before summer is over:
3" high flow cat, and maybe a hooker cat-back

Im working on tuning my own chips, but i need an adapter for my ecm to use the 29C256 chips (can anyone help me here)
Ive got the aldl scanner thing i made all wired up in my car, and ive got a laptop and PPII

i think that's all I've done this summer... this was my first summer to have a real job

results: much faster, still not fast enough
no track times yet...
Old 07-28-2003, 04:07 PM
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Car: 91 Camaro RS Convertible
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 5-Speed
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Only mods so far are:

Non-drop base open element
Catback with Flowmaster 80 series
6* of timing advance
3.42 gears with the zexel torsen posi carrier
New Z-rated tires all around

The car really hooks up hard now off the line with the gears, posi, and tires. I should be going to the track very soon and I'm hoping for a low to mid 15 but we'll see.

As far as my engine swap, I've been swaying back and forth as to what to do with it but I think I have it down now and am starting to tear down the engine any day now.
Old 07-28-2003, 04:12 PM
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Car: 1988 Firebird, 2000 GTP
Engine: 327
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9" posi, 4.11
So far this summer,
*I have built all new exhaust..(EGR no longer works from lack of backpressure).
*Added home-made sub frame connectors
*Made some custom door panels
*Developed some ping since the exhaust that I can't seem to get rid of.
*Just ordered all the fixin's for the new motor.
Old 07-28-2003, 05:44 PM
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Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: 406 SB
Transmission: TH350
Mods are all in the sig, working on tuning the chips. I think I almost have her tuned right. She's going to make it to the track sooner or later. If I have a set of slicks when I get her there I'm shooting for 13s. Without slicks hopefully around a 14 flat. Time will tell sooner or later.
Old 07-28-2003, 05:53 PM
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Car: 91 RS
Engine: 350 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
MODS:

HyperCRAP cap and rotor / MSD wires / Rapidfire plugs at .045 gap / MSD coil / Advanced timing 8*

3.23 gears / SLP posi / Trans-go shift kit / Vette Servo / tranny cooler

KYB struts and shocks / Global West steering brace / Spohn SFC's, LCA's with relocation brackets, and panhard bar

Jet Fan switch / 180* t-stat / Stewart Stage 1 WP

K&N open element w/ Xtreme Top

Dynomax cat-back

Today I just installed all the Spohn stuff. The car definately feels tighter, but I only drove home from the shop, so it's only been about 2 miles to compare it on.

The biggest difference is a tie between advancing the timing and the gears w/ posi. It's like even on the interstate, I'm still in my power band. I highly recommend the 3.23's if you drive on the interstate alot.

The advanced timing really gave a SOTP difference, but it sucks having to buy high octane fuel, and even with that, I still have a little knocking at low RPM's.

Assuming my car was still putting out the stock ratings when I started, I picked up 10 HP and 8 lb/ft with the K&N and advanced timing.

Also, if you're looking for a nice quiet, but deep exhaust note, I highly recommend the Dynomax setup. No annoying drone what-so-ever.

I have no track times yet, but maybe when I get back from overseas, I'll knock some out.

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Old 07-28-2003, 08:21 PM
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1989 Pontiac Firebird Formula Black 305 tbi 116K miles

1.Flowmaster muffler 80 series

2.Lakewood rear control arms

3.Hayden tranny fluid cooler with 10" fan

4.Energy suspension fron sway bar links.



thats all ive got for now my tranny blew after road course racing through the neibhor hood.

So know im either going to go with the t56 or $1,400 auto transmission.Or buy a used one for $200 to show off in front off a friend and score.
Old 07-28-2003, 09:26 PM
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Car: 92 Firebird,74 Nova
Engine: Stock tbi,Vortec 350
Transmission: T56, th350
Axle/Gears: 3.73 LSD, 2.73 open
edelbrock tpi headers

3 inch dynomax high flow cat

flowmaster 3inch catback 80 series

getting the stage 2 chip and stat in this weekend

gonna order world torquer heads and edelbroke intake soon

gettin a laptop and gonna get stuff for burning chips comin up

thats it for now
Old 07-28-2003, 09:36 PM
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Car: 1999 Yamaha Banshee
Engine: 379cc twin cyl 2-stroke stroker
Transmission: 6 spd manual
Axle/Gears: 14/41 tooth
LOL i believe i have done most of this since Tas was around



Engine:
4 Bolt Main 350 bored .030 over (355)
Stock crankshaft
Side polished and shot-peened rods w/ ARP fasteners
Keith Black Flat Top Pistons
XE 274 Camshaft
Stock 1.5 rockers with screwed-in studs and guideplates
Ported and polished bowl blended smogger heads
2.02" Intake Valves, 1.60" Exhaust Valves
Weiand X-Celerator Single Plane Intake
1" Open Carb Spacer
Edelbrock 750 CFM electric choke carb
Flat Bottom 14"x3" K&N Air Filter

Transmission:
"Corvette" Stall

Ignition:
Accel Replacement HEI Distributor
Accel 45,000 HEI Volt Super Coil
Taylor 8mm Spark Plug Wires
AC Delco Spark Plugs

Rear End:
Stock 7.5” 10-bolt rear-end
Richmond 3.73s
SLP take-off posi
All seals and bearings were replaced when the gear/posi swap was done.

Suspension:
Boxed-stock LCAs
Polyurethane front and rear sway bar endlinks
Polyurethane front and rear sway bar chassis mounts
Polyurethane transmission mount
Summit Racing 3-way Adjustable Rear Drag Shocks
Air Lift Air Bags in the rear springs


Cooling:
17" Heavy Duty Derale Flex Fan with a 2" spacer
B&M 24,000 GVW transmission cooler
Stewart Stage 1 Water Pump
160º Thermostat with two ¼" Holes

Exhaust:
Hedman shorty headers, with their y-pipe that I ported and modified(single pipe is now all 3")
Straight-pipe catalytic converter
3" pipe all the way
Flowmaster 40 Series Race Muffler w/ Turndown.

Weight:
3,340 pounds full race weight.

Appearence/Misc.:
1991-1992 Z28 Rims, IROC fog lights, Harwood 4" Cowl Hood, Z28 Grille, Custom LED 3rd Brake Light, Sylvania Cool Blue Low and High Beam Headlights, Proform Shift Light, Triple Gauge Console, R&M Billet Spark Plug Wire Looms, Moroso Chrome Valve Covers, Keyless Entry, 235/55/16 Firestone front tires (came with the car), and 295/50/16 BFG T/A rear tires

Stereo:
Pioneer CD Player, Pioneer 4x6s, Pioneer 6x9s, Profile California Series Amp Powering 2 10" Pioneer I.M.P.P. Subs.
Old 07-28-2003, 10:42 PM
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Brody: With all that crap, how fast are you going?? That's a lot of time and money you put into that car.
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Car: 1999 Yamaha Banshee
Engine: 379cc twin cyl 2-stroke stroker
Transmission: 6 spd manual
Axle/Gears: 14/41 tooth
you're telling me.
i dont know how fast im going but i am going to the 1/4 mile track for the first time friday (8/1/2003). however i know i would be going WAY faster if it wasnt for these two things:

"Stock 1.5 rockers with screwed-in studs and guideplates
Ported and polished bowl blended smogger heads"

and

my current torque converter

those two things (mainly the heads) are really hurting me
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Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 5-Speed
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Hey brody, I've been thinking about boxing my stock LCA's as well, did you notice much of an improvement when you did them? Does it really stiffen it up good or should I just wait and shell out the dough for some spohn tubular arms or something of the like?
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Car: 91 RS
Engine: 350 TBI
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Originally posted by BronYrAur
Hey brody, I've been thinking about boxing my stock LCA's as well, did you notice much of an improvement when you did them? Does it really stiffen it up good or should I just wait and shell out the dough for some spohn tubular arms or something of the like?
I went with the Spohns. They definately tighten up the rear, maybe too much. I no longer bark the tires going to 2nd or 3rd. It just hooks and goes. A little noisy for my taste, but definately hooks better.
Old 07-29-2003, 10:46 PM
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hopefully by the end of summer ill have a Pro Built Street/Strip tranny, ACT 9.5" 2400 stall TC, and 1.6 rocker arms.

rest of mods are in sig.
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Everything in the sig plus SLP Headers, Cutout, Harwood 4" Outlaw Z Hood with a cold air box (air box isn't done yet), Subframe connectors (coming soon), and gettin' some prom burning equipment pretty soon too.

I'm hoping for mid 14's off the bottle and high 12's on a 100-150 shot or so (whatever it takes I'm crazy enough to do it )

Good Luck to all
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