propaintball96

Hey guys just got my Koni yellows in the mail and I had a question for anyone that has ran them or is currently running them...

I know the stiffness rating goes from 1-5. 1 being the softest and 5 being the stiffest. What do you guys prefer running? I was thinking 3 or 4 for a pretty aggressive feel?

Any advice is greatly appreciated!


Thanks!

khulsebus

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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...ml#post5724931

I have them, I still have them on the softest setting.

plum92_camaro

Read the link. It has all the info you need.

Reid Fleming

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Fronts are variable ****.

Rears have settings from 0-3

For new Konis, I'd run them full soft up front and 0 on the back. Get used to them. After a month or so, play around with them a bit. Try 1/2 to 1 turn up front and optionally 1 on the back.

I've had my rears on 0 for years.

propaintball96

Have you tried the more stiff settings? Why are you running them so soft?

Thanks for the link guys

Hal87

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'Cuz their "soft" is really hard, at least on my Koni's. Seems to handle just fine

paul_huryk

I have the 4th gen rears (that are infinitely adjustable), so I can't say much about your settings.

One thing I can say is to leave it on a particular setting for a while, drive on it, and make decisions about changing later.

In terms of ride - most cars you buy used are going to have dead dampers, putting new ones in typically makes the cars ride like new, which is not so good. My car has a firm ride, excellent control, and razor sharp turn in - just like a sporty car should.

plum92_camaro

Koni's are so good that "soft" is sufficient on street. Hard and soft are relative terms like hot and cold. Soft for a koni is still "harder" than most other struts/shocks. The adjustment is only for the rebound of the strut/shock. Konis are able to control the rebound on the road race thirdgens running 1000-1200# front springs and 300-400# rears compared to your 550-700#fronts and 100-190# rears.

In another thread, Dean (slicktrackgod) explained another characteristic of Konis. Since the adjustment is only for rebound, they can be turned up to high. If they are turned up to high for the springs, the konis can cause a negative effect called "jacking down". That is where the bumps in the road compress the suspension and it can't rebound quickly enough before the next bump compresses it more.

Reid Fleming

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Fronts: I have a range of 0 turns (full soft) to 2.25 turns (full hard). It's a combination of concrete roads/potholes and daily driver. I normally run about 1/2 turn. Once in awhile I'll turn it up to 1 full turn. Sometimes I'll turn it down to full soft. The difference in feel in any of the settings is huge. 1 full turn will make the car very nimble and responsive. But it's going to be a firmer ride. At 1.5 turns it's VERY high performance. But you do feel the bumps on the road and then some. Above that and I seem to lose performance (I don't have 1000 lb springs up front). The car feels eerily dangerous at full hard (2.25 turns). Like there is no suspension and just tires connecting you. Hard to describe. But just driving down the highway at 70 mph in a straight line, it feels like you need to have two hands on the wheel. Because even a pebble on the road will be felt and shifted.

I don't run it on full soft very often. That's because it's too fast on full soft up front. At full soft, the car wants to rebound back up lightning fast. I find it annoying driving early in the morning when I'm still tired. Because a small dip in the road will pop the car upwards so fast that it's hard on my head (like a paint shaker). I don't notice this problem during the daytime or night time when I'm wide awake. Driving with the fronts on 1/2 turn keeps the car from rebounding back up so fast. A nice balance......At 1 full turn, the car will want to squat more during a dip before coming back up. More of a contained feel (which is good)

Rears: Koni lists the rear rebound settings as such
0 = 0%
1 = 20%
2 = 50%
3 = 100%

There's less weight out back. So you get less response from changing the rear settings around. Plus it means taking the carpet out behind the seat to remove the shocks. One of these days I'll probably change it from 0 to 1. But I'm in no hurry.

Using my crude aproximated math, 1/2 turn out of 2.25 turns up front is 22%. So running the rears on click 1 should give a fairly close 20%.

I'll second Paul's advice in that it's best to pick a setting and they stick with it for awhile. Drive it daily for a month. See how the car handles various situations. I would say for the majority of cars (moderate suspension mods) a setting of 1/2 to 1 full turn up front and 1 click on the back is definitely high performance. Above that and you get into performance vs bone crushing suspension.

You gotta remember, the Konis on full soft are still better than the other brands. It's not like their full soft settings are mushy and bouncy. Their suspension are ultra fast responding in full soft mode.

Reid Fleming

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Bingo. I run stock height replacement Moog springs. 700# fronts and 100# rears. With the front struts turned up all the way (and honestly anywhere past 1.5 turns for me), you get the jacking down effect. It just feels like everything is glued in place. No movement. No balancing. You could compare it to having the world's worst alignment while driving down the highway.

Don't get me wrong. The Konis are easily my favorite modification. But too much is not always better.

khulsebus

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Because I had barely gotten them on the car before I drove it halfway across the country, I'm now down in Louisiana and the roads are terrible. I'll get around to adjusting them, but it's going to be a bit before I do. Some more important things need to happen first, like getting furniture in the house.

propaintball96

Perfect answer thank you. I will definitely start at 1/2 and work my way up or down from there. Would you recommend me starting at 1 at the rears? Like you, I really don't want to pull them out again and change them haha

Thanks everyone!