itsMikey

i cut a full coil off the fron 5665 springs and the rears are BMR 4th gen lowering springs



3" Exhaust






added:

stock


uncut moogs


i cut a coil off and got this:


coil and a half got this:




if you guys want anymore pics..lemme know
Mikey

itsMikey

fender gap


then just an extra pic that i took

DiabolicalRS

your car is bad ***!

itsMikey

thanks bro haha..

DiabolicalRS

no prob i want a gta soo bad. i know theres a shop here in town with a guy tryin to sell it. but i cant buy it i got enough on my hands with my car lol you know how it is

GTA1990

iTrader: (1)

looks good - seems a wise compromise between looks and streetability - some 'out-in-the-open' pics would be cool to get a better idea of the stance

a quick note I cut full coil off of some '92 WS6 springs and added the rear spring rubber mount thing and I'd say my front end sits bout an inch lower (by wheel-arch gap) then yours

interesting...

itsMikey

these are 756 pound springs though...wheras the ws6 springs are about 500 pound IIRC.

they arent comfortable by any means but i have near NO body roll..once i get the SFC's in, im assuming almost zero body roll..we'll see tho

Reid Fleming

iTrader: (2)

Not to be a stickler, but 5665 springs are rear springs (107 lbs)

You either have the 5662 or 5664 springs. It's an honest mistake.

hellz_wings

iTrader: (2)

What are the heights from center of fender to ground for all 4 wheels?

I love the pics, very detailed and really shows the lower parts of the car and how close they are to the ground.

itsMikey

oops there the 5662's!!
ill measure 2marro good question..haha

and thanks took these specifically for that purpose..just hoping to help a couple people out in the desicion on springs..there great springs for auto-x...but like i said..you feel EVERYTHING..

JamesC

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Spohn and other sources say the 5662's are 706.

JamesC

lonesomeloser

Did they need to be compressed to be inserted?

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...ay-change.html

JamesC

hellz_wings

iTrader: (2)

That's what I was aware of as well, they are VERY stiff and as he said there is pretty much zero body roll in corners, and I am 2" higher than most people on this forum lol.

Another thing to consider is that since he cut a coil, that should raise the spring rate, no?

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iTrader: (14)

yes it does, depending on how much was cut off, and how the coil was formed where he cut it. the first coil is usually a lot shorter than the rest because its flattened out to fit int he a-arm.

knight123

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hmm, I cut about 1/2 coil from mine and I have about 1.5" from the bump stop - a-arms a parallel with the ground. Very stiff on the road and almost too stiff on bumps that cause it to bottom. I run 25lbs in the tires and that makes it ok and at least I don't spill my coffee in the am anymore lol

knight123

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Pics are great BTW, car looks very sweet.

itsMikey

ive spoken to the owner and he has confirmed that they are 756. just hasnt been changed on the site

not if you cut the full coil off..then u can just set it in place and get it up with a jack...but i guess if u wanted to, you could. just to be safe.

doesnt raise the spring rate...doesnt change the coils. all your doing when you cut is shortening the coil length. confusing really..just changes travel i think. Vetruck can explain it better.

its flat but you can just cut a peice away after the full coil to make it flat.

thanks and thanks

lonesomeloser

I cut 1/2 coil off my 5662's and needed a compressor. I was wondering if cutting off a full coil would eliminate the need for a compressor, that's all.
Found the answer, thanks Mikey.

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

What owner? Spohn? If so, that reminds me of the inconsistency (my bad). Note the following from 2007:

FYI: Spohn's IROC style springs have a rate of 748 and 107 (5662 and 5665). A correction has been posted on his site.

Here's the post in its entirety:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...ring-rate.html

JamesC

itsMikey

i was told they are 756...even so..if they're only 706...there stiff..thats all i wanted..dont know much about the spring pound thing but i dont see 50 pounds doing much difference...

they did what i wanted...


heres what they did at full length (before i cut the full coil) -__- can you say 4x4???


drove it like that for a week just hoping i didnt have to take em out and they'd settle 8 inches

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

Good night! My 5662's set lower than stock height from the get-go, no trimming required.

JamesC

KiLLJ0Y

iTrader: (1)

i took a full coil off my 5662's.. and my car is dumped compared to yours..

hellz_wings

iTrader: (2)

My front sits pretty low compared to that (28.5 inches driver side and 28 inches passenger side from center of fender to ground) and I have not cut any coils.

JamesC

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Odd, I'm at approximately 26 5/8. I've read, but have never been able to confirm, that OE ride height is 27 1/2. If you're higher than that I wonder if the springs have been indexed correctly.

JamesC

itsMikey

well damn..maybe mine arent indexed correctly? should it be even lower?? lol

hellz_wings

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I've done tons of weight reduction on the front of my car, plus the fact i have 4th gen isolators up front and out back. Plus doing a battery relocation this week so that should raise the front even more lol..

The indexing part is interesting because I have UMI a-arms, which don't have a spring index I believe... I'll have to double check though.

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

With proper indexing and with a coil cut, your car should sit lower than mine.

JamesC

itsMikey

ill jack it up later and take a look at it..because if it it could be lower id like that because right now the back is lower than the front....

hellz_wings

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For optimal handling the back should be level or higher than the front, not lower.

JamesC

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There are two holes in the a-arm. The spring end should cover one but not both.

EDIT: The holes are shown in post #5 of the link to follow:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...nsion-how.html

JamesC

itsMikey

i know but thats just how it came out..im gonna buy the rear MOOG springs soon and cut..
thanks!!

itsMikey

there indexed 180 degrees backwards -__- ugh...how can i just turn em without taking them out?

spade

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i gotta cut mine cause mine looks like im going off road

itsMikey

yeah mine do too now...again...

i put em how you guys said...
end of the spring covering one of the holes and it sits higher now...

soooooo wtf? lol..

itsMikey

heres how it sits now...



where i put the end of the spring...



and if the picture isnt clear...i put it

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

Have you driven the car yet? If not, drive it around the block and see what happens.

JamesC

hellz_wings

iTrader: (2)

That looks somewhat right.. But give it time to settle, might even take 2 weeks to settle..

itsMikey

drove it around the block...it doesnt take 2 weeks to settle...it takes, backing out of the driveway and pulling forward.

they arent progressive springs..

im gonna take em out again today and turn the spring more i think..

itsMikey

and even with progressive springs, its not gonna sink 6-8 inches...

hellz_wings

iTrader: (2)

In my experience, they settled quite a bit over the course of 2 weeks.. The car was really jacked up when I first got it but then it came back down quite a bit, but not 6 inches though, maybe 1 inch, hard to tell as I did not measure really..

JamesC

iTrader: (5)

The 'settling' issue has always intrigued me. People speak about it, but my springs didn't 'settle' a fraction of an inch from summer to summer.

JamesC

hellz_wings

iTrader: (2)

Same.. I'm sure that weight might have a play in it? Or it could be because I installed the 4th gen isolators, maybe those eventually became more compressed over time? Not sure really.. I'm glad my front went down a bit, now I just have to cut the springs a tad in the rear to match.

itsMikey

i put em back in the way i had em before...

sits like it did..

i think its not sitting how its supposed to because they were cut..

made2drag

ok, so this thread is really old, but what happened next? i need to know how your car is so low and how you got it lower after this thread left off? thanks, i need to lower mine really soon

N_da_Mood

Dumb question but, what is the red bar called running across the engine bay?

88 5.7 Iroc-Z

its a strut tower brace

N_da_Mood

itsMikey

cut half a coil more off

yessir

made2drag

so you cut 1 and half coils on a moog 5662 spring and it gave you 3 inches.....cool!

im either going to do that or modify my lca's....here's a thread i started...im still wondering if it would work...i would also trim my upper spring pocket openings and flatten my lca humps to gain more travel. i want to be 2 inches off the ground and relocate my exhaust up or modify the exhaust to gain more clearance. i cant drive my bird this high too much longer...haha