toestothesun

I'm going with the Intrax lowering springs and was wondering if you guys have any recommendations/pics of your Camaro's with either 17x8's or 18x8's on all 4 corners?

I would like to see some pics so I can determine which size I should get.

Also, what size tires are you running and is it rubbing?

Thanks in advance

godreject

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go with 18X8's i have 18X8.5 front rims on 255/35 tires. also have intrax lowering springs ride height looks great. and ground clearence is descent. here a pic i have about a 2 finger gap between my tire and wheel fender. you might consider going with 245/40 tires for a bit more sidewall though

Stephen

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Neither.....

Why go with only 8" wide? Go wider.

I have 9" all the way around. 275s front, 285s rear & no rubbing. And I'm fixing to send 2 wheels off to Weldcraft to be widened to 11", to put 315s on the rear.

DJP87Z28

17x8.5 wheels with 245/45/17 tires on my IROC-Z. My opinion, going too big and wide may be a mistake unless you really like the boy racer look.

toestothesun

Thanks for the responses. Anyone else?

So 245/40/18 should work with no clearance issues?

Flip 2

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I'm with the opinion 8" would be narrow. 8.5" at least.
8.5" front, 9.5" rear is one way to go.

Stephen

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Never heard of that before. What do you mean by that?

DJP87Z28

If you have to ask, then you are one (boy racer)...

godreject

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i would say 18X8.5 only because of the wider tire selection, plus wider tires get pretty expensive. i have 305/35/19 rear tires and there expensive, makes me think twice before a burn out. i would add though wider tires do help with traction, at least in my case they did

Stephen

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I'm more r e d n e c k.....So I are one.

I think it is more likely, only someone who IS something, knows the term. Only those who are something, have ever heard it before.

Of course...It also sounds like a name a 13 year old would come up with so......

godreject

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funny never had heard the term "boy racer" until i read an article from a different thread lol, maybe im old and out of terms with todays lingo

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/auto...wN1c2VkLWNhcnM-

toestothesun

any pics of 8.5" or 9" wheels from the rear? I definitely don't want them to stick out.

Stephen

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My 285s on 9" wheels, 4.5" BS. Inside the fender lip by about 3/4".

These pics were from before I put on the adjustable panhard bar from UMI. Now the tire actually sits in a little farther than in the pics below.

91_5.7_TPI

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What the heck? Too wide will look *****? That's something I'd never thought I'd hear. Personally, I think it's stupid looking when people run 17s or 18s and only a 225ish width wheel. My car has 275/40/17s on 17x9 ZR1s lowered on ProKit.

Sucky pic, but that's how it looks. No isolators.

//<86TA>\\

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i agree, wide tires look great, so long as they dont stick outside of the wheel well

i run 18x8's in the front with a 245/40/18, and 18x12's in the rear with 335/30/18's, yea they are sweet and are tucked
not the best angle, but its all i have right now.


definatly go with a 9.5 or larger in the rear with at least a 275 tire.

//<86TA>\\

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would this be considered the "boy racer" look

jalex83ta

good looking TA! Tire set up looks like a great fit.

91_5.7_TPI

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Wow...those 18s look great on that car. Really nice job getting the rear to fit that well. You need something wider up front though haha

//<86TA>\\

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yeah, i know. im working on it

RED_DRAGON_85

crazy
not that im complaining, and i know that its a race car, but couldnt you have tucked the rear wheels in a bit more?
just sayin...


i guess the rears would go in, but the fronts would stick way out then...
so good call i guess.
haha

//<86TA>\\

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i assume your referring to the camaro i posted? its not my car, just a pic i have. You would have to mini-tub the car to get those wheels to fit. they were also 12" wide rims. the fronts were 10's, probably could get them to fit.

2600-watt-rs

i have 18x8's with eibach sportline springs 225/40's up front with 245/40's in the rear. wish i could of went wider in the rear but they wouldnt put them on. said 245's are the widest you can go with a 8" wide wheel
love the way it sits tho

//<86TA>\\

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thats about all you will fit at the stock height. you need wider wheels to use anything larger

Norm Peterson

Seems to me you've found a place that really knows their business and cares more about giving you good total service than just taking your $.


Norm

2600-watt-rs

ya wasnt the first time i delt with this guy. he really knows his tires any ? i asked he was quick to anwser he also did my 20's i had on my old truck

paul_huryk

I agree 100%, if you cant run a 245 tire (which was a factory width), then don't even bother. All f-bodies (of all generations) really improve handling when going to a wider tire, so going from a 245-50-16 to a 275-40-17 is a really good thing. Stuff 315's in the back if you can...

thomas1976

Ummm? dunno...

Fab1981

I have 255/40's on my 18x8 rims. no issues...

Norm Peterson

Holy thread resurrection, Batman!

255/40's really need to be mounted on wheels that are at least 8.5" wide.

These aren't the 75-series tires of the 1970's and shouldn't be mounted on wheels that bulge the sidewalls out to make them look like those old commuter-sedan-y things. Never mind the things like steering response and precision that you're simply throwing away without getting anything useful in return.


Norm

Fab1981

Hey Norm,
Not sure if it's the manufacturer but I have no buldge whatsoever.. Actually the factory rims and tires had about an inch of buldge.

Another question I have is what kind of springs do I put on it? I don't want any rubbing but it's just sitting too high for my liking.
Any suggestions? Maybe if anyone has pics of how there car looks lowerd with 18's.

Norm Peterson

It's still outside Tire & Rim Association guidelines, and in a way that will result in slightly/somewhat greater sidewall flexing and heat generation. Perhaps your specific 255/40's are running a lot narrow and the OE tires ran a little wide, but the sidewall should be extending about half an inch past the outer face of the wheel which should be clearly noticeable if you're looking for it. On a 9" 'measuring width' wheel, it'd only be about 1/4" out past the wheel.

Anyway, the tire to fender gap will be virtually identical to what you'd get with 255/45-17's or 255/50-16's, and only a little different from the IROC's 245/50-16 (about 3/16" less gap than this, actually). That should give you a better chance of finding a picture that'll work for your 'gap evaluation' purposes. The sidewall height to wheel diameters will be a little different, but you probably wouldn't have gone from 15's/16's to 18's without realizing that in the first place.


Norm

Kennerz

I guess I'm a "Boy Racer" cause that looks bad*** to me(A little extreme for my tastes, but cool). Everyone knows most camaros all work better with big rubber "When Set up properly" Love the 18" 275+ look when combined with the right combination of suspension parts.

Everything doesn't Alway's have to "Tuck" just takes a balance and running reasonable offsets.

Phenom-1

For the rear, Certainly NOT the mere 8 inches wide. If you're putting out any kind of mild 350 power down, Definitely go wider in the rear than the front, Always.

It helps you get more grip to put the power down, while having the most control, remember, it's not hard to Fishtail these cars. Especially on Wet streets. It's as easy as Jerking the steering wheel too fast and pumping the gas pedal once.


My '92 5.7 Z28 has the Factory 16x8s all around. With 245/50/16s on all 4 corners.

If I was to swap on a bigger set of wheels, like some Iroc's for example, the 1st Size up I'd get is 17x9 on all 4 corners, With 275/40/17s

If I wanted bigger, Another size up, is 18x9 on all 4 corners, With 285/40/18s

I don't think I could fit anything wider than 9" on the front because the front wheels have to turn, maybe I could but they'd definitely rub, and I wouldn't be able to get a full turning circle lock to lock on the steering wheel.

And I'm not sure if 10" wide on the rear, would require inner wheel well tubbing or if they would just barely fit to be a bolt on swap for a Stock Camaro.


So I'd probably go 9.5" Wide at the back, and I might need spacers, But it's possible to get away with it without any modifications.


20 inch Irocs is the biggest wheel I'd put on my Camaro, and that size would be just for show, but If I did, the biggest I think i could fit without modifications....


20x9 Front - 20x9.5 Rear.

Norm Peterson

285/40-18's and 285/35-18's need to be on at least 9.5" wide wheels, with 10" wide being better still (10" is the "measuring width").

Even 11" isn't beyond the recommended range for those sizes (trust me, this combination works great in the corners even if not everybody approves of the appearance or the lack of any stagger).

285/35's on 18x11's, front and rear both instead of just on the rear like the 5th gen 1LE's 285/35-20's, isn't quite as extreme as 86TA's picture . . . but I bet you could fit it to a 3rd gen, given wheels of the necessary offset(s), and have a really nice HPDE track day setup that'd still be very drivable on the street.




Norm

Flip 2

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When wondering about wheels and tires, one solution out there is pretty easy; C5 Corvette wheels. There is an active market for them on Ebay. The stockers bolt right on with 2" spacers. 17 x 8.5 in front and 18 x 9.5 in the rear. The tires are 245/45 x 17 and 275/40 x 18. Easy fit all around.
For more meat you can try the ZO6 set up. Adds an inch to the wheel width, front and rear, and the tires go to 265 front and 295 rear. Can not speak for fitment.
When buying, factory wheels usually weigh less and subject to better quality control.
Looks to me like the 2009 pic put up by 86 TA has (at least) 295s on the front, and 325s on the rear.

paul_huryk

3rd gens want (and pretty much require) square setup - same size on all 4 corners. Stagger introduces mechanical oversteer automatically and is not recommended - unless it is say a 295/315 stagger or something really wide.

And they also like wider tires, 275 is a good starting point on a 9.5" or wider wheel.

cosmick

Our cars can easily tuck cheap 18x10.5s under all 4 corners, and that's what I'm saving up for. The best "race" tire width would be a 285, for 10.5" wheels, but Chinese 275/35s can be had far cheaper, while a 295/35 would be the width I'd prefer on the street, to give a better ride and more protection for the tire sidewalls and the wheel lips.
315/30s are theoretically ok, and should be tuck-able. I've seen 335/30s on 10.5s, but I won't be trying more than 295s, and I won't be going wider on the rear than on the front, because the front is the heavy end, does 95% of the braking, and does more than half of the cornering.
These cars are all about cornering, drag racers get Mustangs, and cornering calls for wide front wheels. Go as wide as you can, 10.5s are cheap, 11s are custom-order and probably 5x the price. 17x11s are cheap-ish, but can't tuck up front because of the outer tie rod ends. With 11s, the ideal is 295s, so the extra cost gains you nothing worth the cost.