Dyno Don

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http://socaltpi.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=100

ringo234

I'm in.

Birdstheword

TPI only ? or anyone who enjoys being around 3d GEN F-bodies ? , because
1. my bird is tbi and up on jack stands
2. my daily driver is european .

Dyno Don

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anyone who enjoys being around 3d GEN F-bodies

Dyno Don

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Please post up if you plan to attend, they need a head count for the BBQ.

Birdstheword

when is the deadline for the BBQ head count ?
what route will we be taking up to the lodge ?

TA

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This Saturday! Are we meeting at your shop, or???

TA

Dyno Don

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Yes and yes.

JulieGTA

I would like to go but my cars aren't cooperating.
Maybe I can ride with someone.

itsMikey

i can bring the Miata trans am is being temperamental..

godreject

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wish i could make it but i have to work, you guys have fun

Mr.84TransAmer

count me in for 1.

Since I'm alone I can bring someone along.

Dyno Don

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The plan is to meet up at my place at 9:30 and depart at 10:00 AM
and caravan out to the Inland Empire to pick up any from that area.

We we then stop at Wildwood Park on Waterman Ave, (hwy 18 & 40th st.)
In case anyone wants to meet there from that area. (should be there by 11:00AM)

If you are in the Inland area let me know where you want to meet up
so we can pass the info on.

TA

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Fun cruise and great BBQ in sunny but much cooler Big Bear. Awesome views from the cruise, but we were slowed down by a few mechanical gremlins. The Formula ran like a champ all the way home, though.

...just ordered a new fuel pump, this one seems OK to get me bk and 4th to work for now, but any extended uphill thrashes will be avoided until the new one is installed.

TA

1989GTATransAm

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Yeah, I lost half of the electrical in my car. Unfortunately the electric water pump was on the part that lost power. My car looked like Old Faithful when I pulled to the side of the freeway.

When I got the car home and put some water in the radiator I was able to start it up and drive it into the garage. Oil looked fine. I heard no unusual noises when it fired up. I will just have to wait and see if there was any serious damage to the motor. I don't know at this point. I will look into the electrical problem on Monday. My fingers are crossed.

JulieGTA

I had a good time!
Thanks to everyone who gave or offered a ride!
I was sorry the ride with Allen was cut short, I was looking forward to hearing about his many projects!
Hope everyone's car is all right.

camarorookie

That's too bad. Let me know if you need any help.
Hey Julie, was it scary riding with Allen?

JulieGTA

Nah Allen didn't even get a chance to show off what it had, and as for the car blowing up, that happens to me all the time!

Good thing I didn't ride up with the other Troy, or I might be 2 for 2.

1989GTATransAm

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[QUOTE=camarorookie;5380209]That's too bad. Let me know if you need any help."

I should be able to find the problem. I will start out by seeing what has power and what doesn't and go from there.

1989GTATransAm

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Update: I have been doing some testing and it now appears the problem is in the heater portion of the O2 sensor. I have disconnect the power wire to the heated O2 and everything seems OK electrical wise. I will have to drive it some more and see what happens.

I am still going to have to watch the water level and the color of the oil and make sure I don't have a cracked head or leaking head gasket. The short block seems fine. I can probably thank the coated pistons and Mobil One for that.

camarorookie

Sounds good. Sure would hate to pull the heads, but would be accessible when you swap intakes here soon.

camarorookie

Ha, ha. I got the motor you left at the shop installed and it works great. But, it turned out the motor control module is the culprit, started smoking as soon as I adjusted the motor. It appears the transistor for the drivers side motor burned and broke in half, and the relay has a burned wire, probably what burned up my motor.
I owe you so next cruse you can drive my Vette, but I'm a lousy back seat driver.

ringo234

Glad to here it Allen. I'm guessing the heads and gaskets are fine. Before Don found the problem with my fans my car boiled over a couple time with no damage.

1989GTATransAm

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Andy, I hope you are right.

JulieGTA

Wow I can't help feeling bad about your car Allen.
Like, I should have left my karma at home with my car.


[QUOTE But, it turned out the motor control module is the culprit /QUOTE]

At one time I thought I had that problem, so I had a bunch of extra control modules I got from the junkyard, but I think I sold them all to Lon...


...I have one that says "BAD" on it, but I can't remember if it really was BAD, because the problem ended up being a wire shorting on the body.

JulieGTA

oops

TA

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SB Chevys have a high tolerance for abuse. Mine overheated 4 times (various moving-target reasons all relating to the fans quitting in traffic), once so bad the engine sounded like it was seizing, plus a spun bearing and low oil pressure. The oil pressure problem is what killed it, there was scarcely any evidence of the massive overheating on the piston skirts (Coated), far less than I expected to see. With coated piston skirts and good oil, and a little luck, and you should be OK. (knocking on wood).

"the other Troy"...

1989GTATransAm

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My car had an intermittent problem which I thought I had fixed as it has been running fine for awhile. Maybe this was the real problem. So Julie there is no way you had anything to do with it. Sleep easy.

1989GTATransAm

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Thanks Troy. Oil pressure is normal. Everything seems normal. I really did not see any problem with the actual power wire to the O2 sensor but need to put it on a lift for a good look see. It could also be a problem with the O2 sensor itself.

Dyno Don

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Allen:

Did the water pump relay fuse blow?

1989GTATransAm

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No it was fine. The problem was I was using the pink/black ignition power wire that was tied into the gauge power circuitry along with a couple of other items to pull in the relay that powered the electric water pump motor. So anytime the key was on the water pump would run.

As it turned out the heater power for the O2 sensor was also using that same circuitry. The relay coil only draws mili-amps so that was not putting much of a load on the circuit. So once the O2 sensor power circuit went South so did the water pump, the gauges and anything else fed by that circuit/fuse.

I could add a relay that is powered by that circuit that would supply power to the O2 sensor. I could feed the relay contacts off the battery with an inline fuse. That way it would not take everything else out with it.

1989GTATransAm

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A little update. I went ahead and added the relay to control the power to the heated O2 sensor. The relay coil is controlled by ignition voltage. The relay coil only draws 1/5 of an amp. The power comes from the battery through a 5 amp fuse, through the N/O contacts of the relay and then on to the O2 sensor. Car appears to be running just fine.

JulieGTA

I'm still glad to hear your car is OK! and it wasn't something I did!
& sorry to miss out on your input on the ride up (I feel like the luckiest fly on the wall around here!)

1989GTATransAm

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Thanks Julie.

Dyno Don

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On the road to Big Bear....