90RS305

To bring everyone up to speed, my original T-5 tanked on me. Clutch was having lots of problems and all the gears were falling out of there spots. It finally got to the point where my tranny was having so many problems the slave cylinder exploded. Bought a rebuilt tranny for it for $500, installed it, and it seemed to work just fine. Had a couple quirks, but I shrugged it off as just being an old car. Well, a month and a half later, I was cruising down the freeway in 5th gear, BARELY put my foot in the gas to get around someone and get off the freeway, and suddenly POOF, no more 5th gear. Having the stick in the 5th gear location was no different then being in nuetrel. This really sucked, but fortunatly 1-4 were uneffected and the car was still driveable. Drove it around for another 3 or 4 months like this and slowly but surely more and more things went wrong with the NEW tranny. Ultimately it came down to being no longer driveable, had it taken to a transmission shop, and $934 later, I have what feels like a brand new car. The transmission shop told me that the reason I was having so many problems with it was it was built COMPLETELY wrong. They were supprised the thing even worked when it did. 5th gear was the first to go because it was way off from being propely installed, and all the seals blew out. Fortunalty the rest of the gears hadn't been damaged yet, so I wasn't charged for those new parts, it was only 5th that had to be replaced. The rest of it just had to be completely re-built the way it should have been the first time.

Moral of the story is, I payed WAY too much for what was perdy much an already broken transmission, and also my Camaro is finally road-worthy again!

Bruce (90RS305)

snflupigus

It's ALIVE! IT'S ALIVE! ITS ALIVE!!

azvolfan

Bruce is on the road again!!!!

CaptPicardsZ28

WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!.....who sold you the piece of sheit tranny? I can pay him a visit.

90RS305

I'm really not one to point fingers, but it was one of the S/W region members here. Do a little research on my posts and you'll figure it out. Think I may need to talk to him about how much I payed for that thing though.....

On a lighter note, I REALLY need to get this thing properly tuned. Nic, I'm gonna commisson you to help me on that one...

prOject-IrOc

Cool beans man. Glad to hear ya got it fixed, Bruce.

(long time no hear)

SchwarzCamaroRS

lol, properly tuned bruce??? youre bone stock!!!! i think im the one in dire need of tuning... haha

snflupigus

Did you get all that stuff on your car yet?

TonyC

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Glad to hear that's it runnin' again man

CaptPicardsZ28

Well if you nominate me for moderator, I can ban him...

90RS305

TonyC

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I've seen it with my own two eyes, it's definitely alive

CaptPicardsZ28

What????

azvolfan

Bruce,

Can you bring it out to the Pavillions on Saturday?

Synapsis

Too much Toilet Bowl powah!

SchwarzCamaroRS

no nic i didnt get all of it on yet. Im goin back to Cali and ive got an extra couple of cars to drive out there, so it will get done purdy quickly... depending on how bad she runs ill just find someone out there to tune it, but if its decently drivable, ill bring it back out here.

Synapsis, dont forget that bruski's Toilet Bowl propelled his RS to a 15.3 in the 1/4 now either... that could snap a stock T-5 methinks... lol

90RS305

Heh, you're trying to make 15.3 sound fast, lol.

Bill, unfortunatly not this Sat, I've gotta work... I'll try to hit up the next one that I'm off though!

SchwarzCamaroRS

No im not... ::snicker:: i mean... LOL!!! Synapsis' car makes more power at idle than mine does at peak... and mine is 45 more cubes than yours!!! haha, its ok bruski... one day your grey goose will be in the 14's

AZ406TPI

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90RS305: glad 2 hear ur cars working again. but yea.. stock 3rd gen = not fast.. sorry as far as the trans, im sorry.. but T-5's suck. i dont care if its NEW or 15 y/o and been rebuilt. those things can barely handle a 305. may wanna save up and go t-56

CaptPicardsZ28: i doubt selling a trans dirt cheap and for some reason or another it breaks is means for "paying someone a visit". gotta go by the rule, get what u paid for... plus, again, its a T-5.. what did u expect it was going 2 do. specially if hes hard on trannys *this is his what...3rd trans??* as far as becoming a mod.. come on now.. u know these mods wont give it up. they r like a fat kid at McD's and u took their frys

Z28GEN3

Buwahahahahaha

AZ406TPI

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DUDE!! i love ur sig pic... lol

90RS305

Ahh, you are here, haven't seen you on in a while. Any input on this? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just would really like some information as to why the tranny tanked so fast...

AZ406TPI

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its amazing what gets edited around here

CaptPicardsZ28

I think it's just your overactive imagination. I will have Commander LaForge "look" into this....

AZ406TPI

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lol

Z28GEN3

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Dont know, what did you do to it? it worked fine enough for me to put a few miles on it. Understand this though, I know this aint the first tranny that you've toasted. It was not built to WC specs-either, if it was completely rebuilt wrong, why then did it work?

If 5th went out and you continued to drive it around then its your own doing for not having it repaired then, with metal floating around inside the trans sticking to other parts and meshing between gears and inside bearings or where ever. its a shame it wasnt taken care of sooner.

I paid someone else to do a rebuilt on it for me because I didnt know how. I find it very hard to believe there was nothing else wasted in that trans even though 5th went out and you continued to drive it for 3 or 4 months after the fact. there is noway that the 5th gear and labor costs $934. Doesnt add up.

UmmaGumma

Agreed...

Hey Bruce.. come to think of it.. why DID you drive on it for 3-4 months like that? That's just asking for more trouble dude.

CaptPicardsZ28

Why else do you drive your damn thirdgen when its hurt...because you can't help yourself. It's a disease.

I know people who would drive their car around with a hurt tranny if they could "skip" the gear or whatever. Some people can't afford to run to a repair shop for something like that so they drive it till it sheits the bed. The issue was the 5th gear. After that I am sure he knows it's his problem for driving it. Maybe you guys should re-read his post. It seems to have had issues from the start. Anyway, I love my car. If I can't drive it I would be pissed.

AZ406TPI

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snflupigus

That thing made a funny noise from the moment we installed it... albeit slight... i noticed it...

Good luck being "hard" on 5th gear... kind of a tough thing to do. who slams into 5th LOL?

Isnt it possible that the transmission shop was correct in saying it was assembled completely wrong?

Isnt it possible that the previous owner got hosed in paying someone to rebuild it?

"Asking for more trouble" is a completely different issue than buying a transmission that was not assembled correctly or that lost 5th gear randomly shortly after installing it. That is the issue originally posted.

SchwarzCamaroRS

I can also vouch that Bruski is one of the best stick drivers ive ever ridden with. Not saying that either of you are lying, but the transmissions broke (stock 305 couldnt muster the power to do that if it wanted to...) and shops lie.... how else do they make money... regardless, **** happened and it cost bruski a crapload of money to fix it... but its all better now and ill still beat you bruce...

snflupigus

when you gonna give my new dodge a shot at your vert ?

bruce will vouch for me... it's slow.

90RS305

The past couple of posts were correct. If you actually go back and read my original post, 5th gear went out RIGHT after I put it in. And I love how everyone automattically assumed that because I already had a transmission go out, it was my driving that took the second one. The last trip to the shop I had the entire transmission had to be rebuilt. I said the PARTS were not damaged, it was the construction of them that was screwed up. ALL the seals on 5th were blown, and it was installed incorrectly. The rest of the gears still had seals in place, but they were installed incorrectly as well. And why did I keep driving it even after 5th went out? Excuse me for not having money to throw away or a backup vehicle. This was my one and only daily driver. I had no choice. But yeah, I have people that can vouch it was not my driving that took my second tranny's life.

And yeah David, his truck is slow, you should have no problem...

CaptPicardsZ28

Exactly my point. The original issue was 5th gear. And as far as Bruce driving a stick goes, I can tell you noone I know does it better. Coming back from one of our supposed tgo get togethers (not the one to lake pleasant)at firebird my sons 95 Z28 would not go into gear at all. We were stranded far from home and Bruskie turned his car around and got our car and babied it enough for us to make it the rest of the way home. Both my boys have driven sticks with a bad gear. You live with it until you can fix it or it sheits the bed...lol

UmmaGumma

RIGHT after?? I think you need to reread your own post Brucie... If it had happened RIGHT when it was installed, I'd be knocking on his door too. But it didn't. It took a full month and a half and then you DROVE ON IT FOR 3-4 MONTHS.

I don't care how good you are at driving a stick, if you've got metal shavings rolling around in there for a few MONTHS, it's gonna F*CK something else up.

If it's broke, ya drive something else until it's fixed; you'll save more $$$ in the long run. If you needed a car to drive, that's what your girlfriends car is for!!!

If my car was ever broke, it got fixed. If ya can't afford to fix it then maybe you need a Geo Metro

90RS305

K, that was outta nowhere....

As long as a transmission is supposed to last, a month and a half IS right after I put it in. If thats the average life expectancy of a transmission then I'm taking out a big-'ol loan to open my own shop. I'll have it payed back in no time! As far as driving it after that happened is concerned, I had NO CHOICE (well, thats a lie I guess, I coulda just lost my job and sat at home all day). My G/F doesn't have a car, the bus doesn't even come within 10 miles of my work, and again, I COULD NOT AFFORD TO FIX IT AT THAT TIME. Beside that fact, I already explained that my additional driving did not damage the tranny. The EXACT same thing would have happened to the transmission even if it was left in Chad's car. Jeebus

snflupigus

are some still in denial of the idea that it COULD have been assembled wrong?

Synapsis

This is probably the most ridiculous statement I've ever read during 4 years of being on this forum.

snflupigus

LOL

C3VET4ME

UmmaGumma

I'm glad you think so. Get over it.

Driving on something while it's ready to crap the bed and possible cost you quite a bit more $$ is just plain stupid. I definitely understand what not having the dough on hand means; been there many times. That's when the bus would get utilized until I had the cash to get whatever fixed. Sorry if that's not *cool* enough to get from A to B. Not to mention a bus ticket costs alot less than what you pay in gas round-trip. Not being able to use 5th probably used quite a bit of the petrol after 3-4 months costing even MORE $$$.

No bus within 10 miles? Where do you work, Eloy? I thought you worked and lived in Tempe.

It has nothing to do with being assembled wrong. The day 5th went, it shouldn't have been driven until it was assembled correctly. It's as simple as that.

Driving a car you love is one thing. Driving the car you love when it's broke and struggling doesn't say much for how much you love the car.

Synapsis

So how many Geo Metros is that for you?


People seem to be forgetting some parts of the story (all of which I read from this thread.) You tell him not to drive something that's on it's way out and to fix it. You know what? He tried to, he bought a $500 transmission to fix the original problem.

Sure he drove around on it, but that doesn't change the fact that the 5th gear went out on it. The transmission broke BEFORE he continued to make gear salad out of it for another couple of months.

My dos pesos: He bought a used transmission. I don't know if he checked it out first or whatever, but when you buy used parts things like this happen. He's out $500 and that sucks. He didn't ask for any kind of guarantee on it. But if you bought your Lexus from someone here and the engine seized a month later, you'd be complaining too.

90RS305

Nope, I live in Tempe and work in East Mesa. The closest bus would drop me off like 8 miles from work. Total round trip is almost 40 miles. I don't think you are quite grasping what my situation was. Yeah, it wasn't the smartest thing to do driving my car when it wasn't 100%, but I HAD NO CHOICE. I NOW have a second vehicle, so if something happens I CAN park it, but at that point in time, it was either keep driving it, or lose my job/house/everything. I still don't understand why that is so hard to understand. Also, trying to figure out how a Geo would solve my problems

Z28GEN3

According to you it was 1 1/2 months later. So you are saying your car sat around for 44 days on jackstands? thats one day shy of 1 1/2 months=30+15=45 days

What is/was wrong with your PM feature, did it not work at the time of posting this thread? as far as you making it public, not cool ! Given you are a moderator you should know that, having used a PM/IM would have gotten a better response. Though it is not explained as being a rule, common decency would tell otherwise.

Probably would need SPDS, LBP & an LSR signed and returned first.

Maybe, maybe not, but I would have fixed the darn thing rite then even if meant parking it, instead of letting it go., and an alternate temporary means of transportation would have been arranged something that could be found in..... Oh....... lets say the Phoenix Yellow Pages.

Here is how it was, I saw a post in a thread on the SW region board, that said he was looking to get a new 5spd, I just happened to have a trans I wanted to sell, and I had another buyer for it at that time who was thinking about it($$$ talks)-so, okay, I offered it to him in a PM thinking what the heck, I didn’t expect him to take it, muchless a response......his reply was.......... No Thanks, That’s too much for a rebuild, I can get a WC 5spd for $900 thru the place I work at. (Okay) So he aint gonna take it, oh well I'll move on and see if the other guy wants it-if not no biggy I can hold on to it.

It wasn’t until TGO had that fatal crash that Bruce decided that he wanted it, my email address was never posted on TGO, he had to get it from administrator, he emailed me (I didn’t respond, cause it was filtered) and he caught me on MSN's Instant Messenger and said " I've been trying to get ahold of you , I want to buy that transmission", it never dawned on me why he didn’t part with $900 for a WC trans from his place of work.

Everyone should know that you are supposed to use PM/IM for starters for problems with other members or Moderators, which is exactly what Admin. recommends so the moderators dont have to lock a bunch of flame threads, but, he didn’t do that-he chose to instead make it a public matter.

You know what Bruce I realize that, there are somethings that are more important, but just because it is such an inconvience to you doesnt mean you had NO CHOICE! No one held you hostage and said its this way or the high-way.

90RS305

Wow. I think that about sums that up. My main reasoning for posting this thread was cuz I was happy to finally have my car working again. Yeah, I did make a poke at the fact I was unhappy I blew as much money as I did on a tranny that was innevetably(sp?) gonna crap the bed anyways, which I will be the first to admit I could have done that differently, but in the heat of it I think you can understand my frustration. More then anything though, I knew there were quite a few members on here that had helped me along the way and would appreciate knowing that I was back on the road. I love my thirdgen, and so do most others here (seeing as this is, obivously, a thirdgen forum) and most people like good news involving other members and their cars.

As far as your other quote, the whole "44" days thing, you make is sound like that is the life expectancy of a transmission. Last I checked trasmissions were supposed to last a LOT longer then that, so a "month and a half" IS right after!! And finding transportation in the yellow pages?? Um, you ever pay for a cab? Have you ever done it 5 days a week/twice a day? If I had that kind of money, I wouldn't have even bought the transmission from you, I'd have just bought a whole new car. (Maybe I could have gotten that Geo everyone has been raving about!) And again, for the third time now I think, the extra driving DIDN'T DO ANY MORE DAMAGE.

Please everyone, in the future actually READ through a thread before making comments. 1/2 the arguments here didn't even have anything to do with the originating post. And also, 1/2 the logic made NO sense. Seeing as this is probly gonna go nowhere but downhill from here, this thread is done. Any more issues, PM me, start a new thread, whatever. Thank you everyone that has helped me get my car back on the road! You know who ya'll are

Bruce (90RS305)