Nixon1

I like it, it looks sexy, but.....the gauges are 4th gen gauges. Little out of place? But I see why they were used, cause 3rd gen gauges are just downright ugly.

jasonlitka

We are aware of that issue. Unfortunately, the person who made the graphics didn't know the difference. JT told me and I passed the info on to our web guy. If anyone knows of where I can get a nice pic of the 3rd Gen gauges then please let me know and I'll make him redo the image.

JT

iTrader: (1)

Jason, instead of a 3rd generation F-body gauge in the right hand of the banner, perhaps an image of a Pontiac Firebird/TransAm/GTA to help balance the GM Camaro, since this site caters to both? Just a suggestion.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

iTrader: (1)

IMO, the whole banner needs to be re-worked. (Camaro emblem shouldn't have black in the third bar, that should be blue, TGO's boards and main page have pretty much always used the emblem's 3 colors also) I'd like to see something that has a mixture of a bunch of nice top model Thirds and maybe uses gauges and things like that as a clear background or for a fade effect behind the cars.

It'd be nice if we were all working on this stuff together and knew what was going on.

jasonlitka

The 3rd bar should be easy to change to blue as I believe Dave keeps the images as layered PSD files.

As I said though, the complete skin has not been uploaded yet, so we're not going to change anything else until we see how everythingis going to look.

On a site-related note, does anyone know anything about adding a Google site-search box? I'd like to use one so I can enable searching without killing the box, but don't really know anything about them.

IROCThe5.7L

Is this what you're talking about?

http://www.google.com/services/siteflavored.html


I have some suggestions, but I will wait for the final skin, as i'm sure it will change the appearance even more (I just hope the forum isn't all black) . As far as a gauge picture, it appears it's going to be hard to find a good one. I've searched around the internet with no luck. Heres some of mine if it will be any help.







I'd go snap better ones right now if my car wasn't covered and 2 inches away from a wall.

vrtc350

iTrader: (1)

i also noticed the 4th gen cluster. It kind of made me wonder, it seems that people do use them often as a replacement for the 3rd gen's (often seen as[an])unatractive cluster. Or they just build their own.

How about just a tach with the RPM pegged at about 5500 with the thirdgen.org logo in it? Maybe even a shift light with the logo kind of burned in (faintly of course).

vindoo

I do like the bird/camaro combination logo up top...Just need to correct that color. Good job, site is looking good and working good too!

I havent been coming here very long, but in the short time I have, I've grown pretty addicted. I already bought a car from the classifieds too! I really need to stay out of there.

305q_ta86

iTrader: (1)

Heh the 4th gen cluster was the first thing I noticed too. Glad to see the forums up again!

JungleMan

It needs work but it definitely beats the heck out of that old banner.

Phantom Champ

The bird logo in the banner and on the buttons looks like a 2nd gen bird to me.

Love the new color scheme, though. Are we ever going to have a choice of skins?

ThirdGenLS1

yea does look a little like the bird from the 2nd gen's, but hey its a heck of a lot better then the old board, so i cant' complain. I think the new look is great.

Chrome

It's different. But I don't like change...

sully91rs

I'm a camaro guy, but I agree. Having a Pontiac third gen would definetely work well.

Gumby

DITTO

"Think Outside The Bowtie"

MetalliCamaroRS

iTrader: (15)

Oh great. Much better. Forget putting a Firebird there, lets commercialize and put ads there

I knew that would wind up happening.

Red Devil

I hope if there is a 'dark' option, they have something for us old bastards whose eyes aren't what they used to be... well until some nice.... bah, nevermind.
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I thought the profitability issue was a given.
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And I don't like the automerge option either.

JBert

Why do I see the Camaro ont he right and now Ads by google in the middle?

someday

I wouldn't consider the ads to be an improvement either.

Stekman

I, too, am not a big fan of the ads in the top banner. Reminds me of one of those free sites like a tripod or lycos-type page.

What is this automerge you speak of?

MetalliCamaroRS

iTrader: (15)

I was being sarcastic, I am not a fan of the new ads at all.

someday

I know you were. I just hope the changes to this site will be heading in the right direction and not the other way around.

IROCThe5.7L

Like I said before, no one buys a website for fun. I knew this was going to end up happening.

Red Devil

This was mentioned by a few. And all this complaining made them put it up on the home page too! Dirk Should have sold it two years ago to the thirdgen group that wanted it.

sully91rs

This site used to feel like a club, but the ads give an erie feeling - like google is watching you!

Zrated83

iTrader: (17)

Yeah the new banner sucks. It has a pic of a thirdgen cramped in the corner with writing over it, and then ads take up the rest of the room. wtf kind of banner is that supposed to be? Can't they atleast put the ads somewhere else on the page?

Red Devil

There are some on the bottom of the page too if it makes you feel better.

someday

HAHA. Too Funny

83firebirdS/E

Yeah I want my blue formy back on the banner!

DC87GTA

iTrader: (1)

I would have to agree, a third gen bird/TA on the right side of the banner would balance it out nicely. And did anyone notice that the bird on the camaro emblem was that for a 2nd gen not a thirdgen? . It is good for a change, but I think it should be kept to the thirdgen theme, maybe I am old fashioned though...Just a thought...

Wheel Spin

If goooooogle WAS watching instead of using a scattergun approach to sales, they would not be be trying get me to click on "72 Z28". I drive a THIRDGEN FIREBIRD, dammit.

Who bought this site, PRIMEDIA? HOLLEY?

A Internic "Whois" search shows the site still registered to Dirk:
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whoi...rg&type=domain

Take a look at http://www.ThirdGen.COM , and see what the future COULD hold. yeah, it's a real site. Disgusting.

scottmoyer

I have to add my 2 cents....

I came into this forum because of the ads. I needed to know what the deal was! I really don't lke it. They are at the top in the black banner, at the very bottom of the banner and at the bottom of the page. Unless Google is paying for sponsor space, I think it needs to go. Coming into TGO was a way to be on the Internet without being over run by it with junk. Adding all that junk in here over commercializes TGO and makes it look trashy! Again, just my 2 cents.

CYARS92

Wise Man once say: The only thing constant is change. Beggars can't be choosey!

ThirdGenLS1

I can agree with that.

Sleeper_Z

iTrader: (1)

Here is my idea on the banner. I think there should be an IROC (in red) in the left and a GTA (white) sence black wont show up , in the right with the TGO banner right in the middle with the camaro emblem on the left and a firebird emblem on the right. Us the space up there to make the page more presentable. AND give both side of this group equal respect. Just an idea. Also the "EDIT", "QUOTE" and "POST REPLY" buttones still have the 2nd gen birds in them. just some FYI

Jeremy

dave8412

Honestly, the header... for most forums it's just an image. No site has anything important up there and it's not taking up extra space. As for the links on the bottom that's not taking much space either and it doesn't show up on every page.

I would love to add an image to the header on the right. Definately a firebird, but due to limitations of pleasing everyone at 800x600 there doesn't allow room.

Just realize that these servers take capital to run. Everyone here is a member of the community and it still exisist. With all these ads it's possible we can bring in new members. These ads work in both directions.

DC87GTA

iTrader: (1)

Pleasing everyone is not the issue, the members of this "community" should have a say in the look of the website that was for the thirdgen enthusiast when it began. Maybe if the google ads were not on the header you would have more room to add a pic of a thirdgen bird? The header does not have "nothing of importance", it is the first thing people see when they come to the forum. As a thirdgen enthusiast, we should pay tribute to the bird and teh camaro, not just the camaro. It is funny, cause the ads were not there before and yet new members were added daily, so I don't get the logic here. Just my 2 cents....

1989GTABlown632

with DC87GTA we need a bird up there

Sleeper_Z

iTrader: (1)

Im 100% with Dan (DC87GTA) on this one. This started out as an enthusiast bases forum. Now it seems that the members have less and less of a voice compaired to the ad companys. This page was ran with ONLY 3rd gen based ads befor. I dont understand why the ads have to be in the headers taking up room where a 3rd gen bird could be places when the exact same ad can be accessed elsewhere on the same page.


Jeremy

qytum

"community"

sully91rs

Now that the ads have loosened up, does that mean the moderators also have to loosen up? Will they start making first, second, and fourth gen forum on thirdgen.org? Because the google ads range from first to fourth gen and the firebird symbol in the header is from second gen . I hope this site stays JUST thirdgen (and hopefully the gooooogle ads goooo ).

JT

iTrader: (1)

Why would the moderators have to loosen up, and on what? There was a recent post about moderators being "trigger happy". I asked for examples but none was given. I am not aware of moderators practicing any quota. The are doing the job that they had been for quite some years. TGO has been a "tech-only" website for some time.

I am not aware of such plans, but I'm not the new owner.

Actually, I think the color combo gives that impression. The image below is what TGO had used in the past:




This is the new design:


Outside of the head of the bird being smaller, and the outline outside on the top being fatter, it looks more like a 3rd gen emblem than a 2nd gen emblem. I'm not sure if the emblem will be reworked since it has been mistaken as a 2nd generation emblem by some. However, while the color combo may be similar, the design is much closer to a 3rd generation than a 2nd generation.

There are a few icons that do use the 2nd generation emblem, which was a mistake. However, in my opinion, the person doing the graphics did a good job putting things together. It's much better than a stock vB skin, and these changes weren't just color code changes. There are some things that may need tweaked. I would like to see a Trans AM/GTA in the banner, as I stated before. Having a Camaro only gives an immediate impression that this site is dedicated to the Camaros only. However, overall, I think Dave did a good job.

Sleeper_Z

iTrader: (1)

Actually I think everyone was refuring to the bird that was up originally on the new banner and it got changed. It WAS a 2nd gen t/a bird. But people are reading the old post and assuming that they are talking about the current bird.

Jeremy

JT

iTrader: (1)

While it was a 2nd gen emblem, that was changed 1 week ago as I had reported the issue. The post that I was replying to was just created less than 30 minutes ago, so that person should have been seeing the correct emblem. There has been some who have mistaken that emblem for being a 2nd gen emblem, and I think the color combo is the largest reason for that.

Sleeper_Z

iTrader: (1)

I got ya. Yeah I would have to agree, the colors do give it the 2nd gen sail panel emblem look. But me being a 2nd gen firebird fanatic aswell as a 3rd gen entusiast I have no trouble telling the differance.

Jeremy

ThirdGenLS1

well honestly we can all get what we want,there will always things you would rather have. But i can say that the board is A LOT better then it used to be, so i'm not really going to complain. I"m sure they worked hard on what they got so far, and i know if i spent hours i woudlnt want to hear about how it should be different.

IROCThe5.7L

Yes, but I agree with people saying you have to remove it from the top banners. These are images representing the site, with a big fat ad on it. Not cool.

At this point and time, I would be worrying about losing members, not bringing in new ones.

I mean no disrespect, but both banners (main page, and forum) look horrible. Especially the main page, it looks sloppy, the lines don't match up or anything. It seems the image and text that represents the site are crammed to make room for the ads. I think it would be much better to keep the ads like they are, but remove them from both banners.

I understand it takes capital to run servers. But your company did not buy TGO for fun. I'm sure they seen the traffic it receives, and thought they could make a profit on it. These ads are not just for strictly paying for the server. It is also an attempt to make a profit, and unfortunately, it's at the expense of the websites look and great history. TGO should have been sold to an enthusiast.

Stekman

No site has anything important up there? IMO, isn't that the first thing a new person sees, the top banner? In my mind, that should be at least half attractive and not 85% google bull.

Hell, keep the google ads at the bottom, I don't care about those, don't think anyone really does. Just get the google ads out of the banners and get something that shows a bit of decency towards this community.

I agree, no offense to the purchasing party.

DC87GTA

iTrader: (1)

I would have to agree now on the bird emblem. The color and the more rounded shape gives it the outline of the 2nd gen bird emblem. Where as the thirdgen one is straighter on the sides. My mistake. And others like stekman see the ads in the same way all of us have posted about.

sully91rs

I was not referring to being tech-only. I'm refering to the ads that show 67 camaros and 4th z28s for sale. I agree the moderators do an excellent job with keeping the forums tech-only. I'm pointing out that a newcomer to the site sees 2000 z28 or 67 camaro on the BANNER, and those ads will welcome discussions for more than just thirdgens. If anything, it may make the mods jobs more burdensome, having to tell all the misled newbies that this is strictly thirdgen (which I support).

I've recently registered Google ads on my personal site, and originally the ads were very disconnected from my content; however, after two weeks the ads are right on - when my page discusses 91 camaros, the ads only show 82-92 camaros. BTW, my ads are off to the side and need to b scrolled to for someone to view them. I do not have them on my header, bluntly stuck in people's faces. Perhaps if the new owners put the TA/bird up there and moved the google ads someplace else, there would be less complaints from the thirdgen.org loyalists.

And JT, I've been watching your responses to forum problems since the changeover began. Your work is greatly appreciated.