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Old 12-30-2008, 10:18 AM
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Re: Got the Magna Charger now.....

Originally Posted by DAVECS1
You could cut the hole out big and rivet a new piece of aluminum on to the hood with a new hole in the correct location. Also Moroso sells an offset air cleaner that is what I am using on my blower.
I saw this post and tried looking, but all I can find is a Moroso offset that sits 4.750" above the carb mounting flange.....way too tall I'm afraid.

The offset won't be an issue when I cut the hood. I do plan to apply either aluminum (or sheetmetal) with a hole in it to dress it up a bit.

BTW - I looked at your engine pics DAVECS1 - very nice! Is that an aftermarket TB system you're using?
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http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

This is the air cleaner I am running, for now. I plan on doing something custom later.

Yes that is an aftermarket TB setup from holley. It is there 900 CFM set up. It works outstanding on top of the blower. The misting from the injectors cooles the intake charge phenomenaly and I never have detonation problems. It is extremely robust and I never really have had any tuning issues. It took me about 2-3 days with a laptop to dial it in. The car has tons of miles on it now. It was orignially my father's car, we built together. As he got older he wanted a more refine touring car so he bought a new vette and gave me this one. I have driven it from IL to TN a number of times. It gets about 18mpg, and suprises porsches sport bikes, and new vettes. :-) If you have the coin for EFI, I would not hesitate, it has made this an incredibly fun car, I have even pushed it into daily driver status while getting work done to my truck.
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Re: Got the Magna Charger now.....

Originally Posted by DAVECS1
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

This is the air cleaner I am running, for now. I plan on doing something custom later.

Yes that is an aftermarket TB setup from holley. It is there 900 CFM set up. It works outstanding on top of the blower. The misting from the injectors cooles the intake charge phenomenaly and I never have detonation problems. It is extremely robust and I never really have had any tuning issues. It took me about 2-3 days with a laptop to dial it in. The car has tons of miles on it now. It was orignially my father's car, we built together. As he got older he wanted a more refine touring car so he bought a new vette and gave me this one. I have driven it from IL to TN a number of times. It gets about 18mpg, and suprises porsches sport bikes, and new vettes. :-) If you have the coin for EFI, I would not hesitate, it has made this an incredibly fun car, I have even pushed it into daily driver status while getting work done to my truck.
Thanks Dave....No matter how much I searched, I was unable to come up with a offset drop base air cleaner, and wahlaa - you come up with one. I guess I'm just not good at searching for things....and I looked A LOT.

I too don't detect any detonation problems at all, or I'm unable to hear them. I know the car moves much faster than it ever has by a long shot. I haven't gotten on it real hard since the engine really isn't broken in yet, but I've succeeded in breaking the tires loose in second and third gear without giving it full throttle! So traction is my next issue....

I'm already kinda committed into running a carb with the parts I already have, but I really like the setup you have on your 383.

I already ordered a 2" drop lower air cleaner base, and I plan to remove the hood and cut the hole so it lines up. I'll most likely use sheetmetal or aluminum to cover the hack job so it looks decent and then make some kind of seal between the engine compartment and cowl so it only sucks the cooler air from the cowl.

I just took it out of the garage the other day since the roads were dry and not snowy for a change, and the blower whine is LOUD without an air cleaner...or at least I hope an air cleaner will muffle it a little. It did stall a couple of times when I let off the gas at stop signs, not sure why that's happening since it seems to idle fine, but it was hard to start for some reason. I plan to change carbs soon anyway and get my 750 Holley back on it. I may get a fresh set of spark plugs too. I think I fouled the set I have one too many times while tuning the engine and maybe that's why it's stalling...

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I am not sure if your blower has the bypass valve or not. I had stalling problems at first also. When coming to a stop or letting of the gas abruptly. Basically I was not supplying enough air to maintain idle, during the transition. I ended up having to tune the IAC (Idle air Control motor) to go wide open and my throttle blades need to be cracked a little. It idles about 900 rpm, this way and does not die.

With no EFI controller on there, I am not sure how you would go about monitoring knock. With my ECM I can watch the knock counts to make sure everything is good. May wanna look into some of the Innovate stuff.

The blower you have on your car is similar to the one I have on my truck. They are LOUD no matter what. On my truck I can here it over the Magnaflow catback at full tilt. Enjoy it! It is what you spent your hard earned money on.

On the plugs I run NGKs and I usually run TR6's. They are a heat range colder than normal. Sometimes it is hard to get the parts guy to look them up because they are not listed for any car I know. These will help. I usually gap them at .032. Anything wider and I have run into blowout issues. Talk about a wierd sound, and spooky feeling.

Good luck on the car sounds like it is coming along nicely.
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Re: Got the Magna Charger now.....

Originally Posted by DAVECS1
You could cut the hole out big and rivet a new piece of aluminum on to the hood with a new hole in the correct location. Also Moroso sells an offset air cleaner that is what I am using on my blower.
Well DAVECS1, I tried the exact air cleaner you're using and guess what.......it didn't work... So - since I've tried everything I can think of, I'm back to cutting the hood.......... I didn't wanna do that.......

Also, It actually wouldn't start for a week, I couldn't figure it out since it ran fine till I parked it...I noticed that I lost the locknut on my FPR, guess I didn't tighten it, and it fell off so I wasn't geting enough fuel pressure. Starts fine now...
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Just rying to get the remaining mechanical stuff straightened out...I'd like to get the car painted soon......Dupont Pepper metallic grey with black hockey stripes very simular to SinisterZ's...with his blessing of course!!
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Re: Got the Magna Charger now.....

Confuzed1 you puss cut the hood!

At least you are driving/starting your car. My intake won't stop leaking. It's been 4 months since I have started it. I hate my car.
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Re: Got the Magna Charger now.....

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Confuzed1 you puss cut the hood!

At least you are driving/starting your car. My intake won't stop leaking. It's been 4 months since I have started it. I hate my car.
- You're right LilJayV10, i've been trying EVERYTHING to avoid chopping this freakin hood!! Looks like I have no choice...need to just get out my wussy grinder and have at it I guess. lol

Sad to hear you're still fighting with that intake....

I have a couple of known good ones lying around in great shape if you're interested...an Action Plus, and a "Crosswind"....no need to hate the car, you'll get it going.

Besides, you're in the same boat I am...you've spent too much already, so it's "Cheaper to keep her" - and your car looks 10 times better than mine too!!
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Re: Got the Magna Charger now.....

Hate to bring back a dead post but I just read this entire thread and I am curious to see how things are going now!

How doesn't a big cap HEI distributor work? They use one right here! http://www.hotrod.com/cars/featured/...d-350ci-chevy/
The blower in this link looks different than yours though, including the thermostat placement is different

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Re: Got the Magna Charger now.....

Originally Posted by irocz253
Hate to bring back a dead post but I just read this entire thread and I am curious to see how things are going now!

How doesn't a big cap HEI distributor work? They use one right here! http://www.hotrod.com/cars/featured/...d-350ci-chevy/
The blower in this link looks different than yours though, including the thermostat placement is different
My intake doesn't look like the one in the article you posted. I can only assume that one was a prototype of some kind. The housing on the HEI distributor is too big and hits the intake which doesn't allow the distributor to go all the way down…I think the t-stat placement is maybe the same, but the one in the article is pointing in the wrong direction for most if not all Thirdgens…maybe that engine was going into something else? Otherwise, things went great…I've done a lot to the car since this post. I ended up buying a 4" cowl, and it's close with an air cleaner…..but it fits.

I now have a Dart Little M block in the car with steel billet mains, and added AFR heads. Runs great! It's a lot of fun to drive and tons of torque. A couple pics:
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