joshh44

hey i just came up with a lame idea that im gunna try out on my junker work car. paid $200 for a 83 civic
anyhways. heres what i have planed.
some of you guys im sure seen or heard of the electric turbos.
i searched them up and the prices are around $200 - $500 for a kit.
i watched a test video of them and they sound like a hairdryer!!!
so thatswhat i came up with.
have a hairdryer and attach it to the intake cover snorkle thing. anyways.
i drew out a drawing on good ol' paint program and here it is.



have a on and off switch inside the car. i would remove the heat coil so there isnt hot air blowing into the engine. you can get some cheap hairdrys for like $10 or something like that ayways.
but i was thinking of adding maybe 2 hairdryer for alittle extra air.
what do ya guy think? i say its totally hippy.
a buddy of mine came up with this intresting idea of sticking a gas powered leaf bower. and have the pull cord inside the car so you just yank on the cord and vroom! turns on the leaf blower. and a throttle for it inside the car as well so you can control the air. since thos things blow pretty good air. i thought it would be pretty rad to put on maybe my civic. cost me $200 for it anyways so i dont really give what happens to it. it will be an experement tho. but im notgoing to buy a $100 leafblower just for that lol.
ill try the hairdryers for sure.
driving along and turn on the hairdryers and feel the rush of he added hp!! buckle up!
i sound like a 13 year old kid. haha im all pumped up about this! haha

kanmudhog

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What goes in must come out , so I'd put the second hair dryer in the exhaust pipe

joshh44

ill just cut off the muffler and the cat. should free up some exhaust flow :P
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to bad my car doesnt have AC. i would just hook up my AC to it so ill get some cool air in there. no need for an intercooler when you have AC! but i dont so that idea is out the door

Street Lethal

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... why not just slap some tiny wheels onto it, and drive the hairdryer?

joshh44

haha i wish.

xpndbl3

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i hope you are really joking about all this, if not

joshh44

oh i am. dont worry. im not gunna make are 3rd gens look like crap.
but its just an idea.
im gunna give it a go tho on my crap car civic and see what happens.
just plug a power converter. plug in hairdryer and prett much set.
and i got a converter and everything so i might just give it a shot.
what do you think the hp gain will be? half a hp? maybe 4 if im lucky??

xpndbl3

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i'd think -5hp at least by creating a restriction.

joshh44

aw come on man. making me loose faith!

Street Lethal

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I have plenty of faith in the hairdryer, in fact, I bet it outlasts the Honda's engine....

Seriously though, go for it. Am very curious to see the results now....

joshh44

oh im doing. even if people hate me.
ill take photos and maybe a vid,

now i gotta find me a hairdyer. thats all i need
i got eveything else i need

Silver83

+1 for thinking outside the box...

joshh44

maybe my sister has a old hairdryer laying around.
then it would be 100% free. and maybe 20 mins of my time to do it. hehe.
im excited. its dark and i think it might snow tonight so im not gunna bother today. maybe tommorrow.

kanmudhog

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Dude come on , the load on the alternator and the restriction will cost you atleast 5 hp .
What about increasing the airflow as the engine gains rpm , only two speeds on a hairdryer , people have spent tens of thousands of dollars to efficiently pump air into their engines by different methods - roots type superchargers , screw type superchargers , turbos , NOS and so on , I don't think they would point the answer at their head every morning and not get it .
Just below your airconditioner compressor there's an airpump already on your motor and it increases speed with engine rpm because it's driven by the belt , but it's not a very efficient pump and it could never move enough air to create any boost .
At one time someone on ebay was selling electric superchargers but I haven't seen them lately , they probibly got sued and went out of business .

joshh44

i wasnt planning on sticking it on a camaro.
if i wanted more hp. ill do it the proper way. this is just a little test.
see what happens type of thing.

kanmudhog

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Search the power adder forum for " haidryer" this topic has been discused before . Heres a video , I wonder how just NOS would do .

joshh44

if i get some nos for free ill give it a go lol.
i didnt know someone already posted something like this up alrady. i guess they beat me to it
i guess ill just have to mod afew things up to make it work good
im trying to shoot for the free stuff lol

junkcltr

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Assuming no inverter loss. A 120V hair dryer at 500 watts needs 500/120 = 4.2 Amps. 1HP = 746 watts. 500/746 = .67HP to push air into the engine. All that says you are wasting your time with a hair dryer.

EDIT: How much do you think the inverter and wiring will cost?

For the money you are talking you would be better off piecing together an N2O kit.

kanmudhog

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500 watts is usually the low setting , most hair dryers are 1200 or 1500 watt on high , I don't know how much power you'll save by disconnecting the heating element but you'll still put a substantial load on you alternator and battery . Ohm's law , know the law , obey the law .

stiletto

get a electric leaf blower, they flow more volume of air. lmao

shocker89bird

Guys just let him do it and see what happens. Although you should find some before and after dyno time to compare. lol

JustinSane

it wont work, and those ones on the internet dont work either, i used to have a video of guys mounting one on a honda and doing before and after test, i really shouldn't have to tell you why it wont work if i do then you really must learn more about cars, incase you do need to learn more its very simple, no hairdryer in the world will blow out more air then then motor already breaths in on its own, there for you will see no PSI increase in the intake, that aside when ever you do add more air say with a turbo or maybe a super charger you also need to add more fuel or you just go lean and burn parts, dont waste your time even thinking about this idea, instead use that time to learn more about boost in general, come over to www.d-series.org i am a member there my name is boosted91 i have a 300 whp honda crx and i am only using a SOHC d16z6

joshh44

i know plenty about cars. this is just for fun anyways. if i acturally want to make a 200hp civic then ill put a real turbo on there. since im not. im not going to bother.
i rathr stick a Turbo on a Camaro insted anyways if i had extra money laying around.

you know when your deadly board and got nothing to do?
im having one of thos. i need to do something. so thats what im doing
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bored not board*

JustinSane

being bored i understand, but why not duct tape a tennis racket to the roof , or make a wing out of Styrofoam? I mean your idea will do nothing more then these 2 ideas i gave would, so why even bother? being deadly bored is ok, but wasting your time and thinking something will come out of the wasted time is another on second thought you better not come to the honda forum, those guys would LOL you right out the door if you know so much about cars as you think you do you would not even have embarrassed your self by suggesting a hair dryer as a hp adder lmao. have fun

nixon5

it wouldent do anything just going to be a waste of time.. If your looking for free hp steal a better car...

joshh44

im ahead of yo already on the spoiler part. i made a wooden one out of 2x4.
i was thinking of maybe some duct tape racing stripes.
and im not embarrassed one bit lol. and i dont htink its a waste of time. standing around not doing anythning is a waste of time.

Jassack

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haha i got a real nice lightweight and sturdy cardboard custom hood you can put on it....it added like 50 horsepower to my civic....

joshh44

my car is just for looks anyways haha. i seen worse tho. i seen cars with toys glued all over it. my buddy painted his carwith house paint and used a roller to. i might do that. cheap and super fast.

Jassack

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yea search for the 50$ paint job...its pretty cool

Sonix

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I know this thread is just a joke, but still... I wish there was a smiley with a dunce cap - just for you!!!

joshh44

haha thanks.
well. i cant find my camera to take photos.
but i found out i have a blown headgasket on the ol' civic so its running terrible. so ill have to fix that 1st before i do anything else. gotta wait till payday before i can do anything at this moment. but i can still take photosof all the parts i have for this tho would it increase MPG at all or lower it? or stay the same?

antman89iroc

Bravo! This way you don't have to disconnect the heating elemants in the hair drier! I believe this is the turbo-durbo set up right? Been discussed a million times at:

www.getalifeandstartmakingrealpower.com/forums

But seriously (te-he I actually used the term "seriously" in this response) I think you would need some sort of check valve on the "fresh" hair- uh I mean AIR- side of the "Y" or all your "boost" would be vented out the 2nd inlet instead of raising manifold pressure. Make sure you upgrade the fuel system or you'll burn a hole in those teeny-tiny pistons.

I really don't mean to knock you for asking- hell it was an honest question. But when you slow pitch like that you can't blame a few of us knuckle heads for swinging for the fence!

kanmudhog

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Good thing you found out about that headgasket now , the boost from the hairdryer would have taken it out for sure .

junkcltr

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Why upgrade the fuel system? The hairdryer is going to be a restriction and make the engine run richer as is. Just swinging at a slow pitch here.

Why is there more useless threads like this around here lately? Have the other boards started cracking down and forcing people to go to other boards?

antman89iroc

True. For the hair drier. But I was working off stiletto's leaf blower idea. I think this one's got a chance. But to save drain on the electrical system, I suggest we put a gasoline generator in the trunk!

And you're right. This thread's dead.

joshh44

i was thinking about that leaf blower. i was thinking haveing agas one so your now using up any electrical one. and have the pull cord in side so your driving along. going up a steep hill and having trouble making it up or just going to slow. pull the cord. and have a throttle leaver thing inside as well. and just let on the throttle abit and off you go.
im sure it blows more air then an electric one but how would i know i never owned one before.
and whe you need to fill your car. just pop the hood. and fill the leafblower while your at it.

junkcltr

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I have said long ago that this is the best way to go:

Get a used Ninja EX250 or CR250/KX/RM engine and put it in the trunk running a supercharger. It will give enough HP to run the SC. No powertrain engine loss and slight weight penalty.

bshade

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my neighbor once tried to turbo his got cart by bending a coper pipe so that it would fit from the exhaust to the intake. He took the air cleaner off and ran the pip in to the mouth of the carb. I stooped him from doing it explaing that is not how a turbo works and all he would be doing is providing hot dirty air and making probably not even work. He was only 14 at the time, I was 10.

Brad the Superlative!

shocker89bird

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone has jokes haha.

xxboomer408xx

I can just imagine him pulling up to a real ***** and him turning on his hairdryer! The other guys like oh sh*t! what the f*ck. and he starts like thinking about ways on modding his car too!

1991CamaroRslow

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You would have so much more fun with a big wet shot of nitrous on this car, trust me it's awesome.

kanmudhog

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Nitrous is the right way to do it , but don't mention that in this thread , these guys will invision a tube from their throttle body to inside their car with a can of starting fluid hooked to it .
Free ice cream in the burn unit

305q_ta86

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No, no no. You've got the wrong idea. You need to loop the exhaust straight back into the intake, so the pressure will give you more boost.

joshh44

what if you got an air compresser and pump it up to like 75psi or something in the trunk of the car. have a hose from it to the intake. i wonder if it would make any difference.......

1991CamaroRslow

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Just get a tank of Oxygen then take the mask off and run the hose into the intake.

bshade

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No CFM just PSI, does not make power. You need that volume of air to make a gain.

mxcrazed

i say put it in there and put the cat on craigslist then videotape the people's reactions when they come to see the car and post them on you tube for us that is the best idea yet and you don't even have to sell then car but you do have to ask the people if it is ok for you to post it on the internet then just tell them that you knew the car was a joke that is why you recorded them but you are gonna give it to your cousin or something! this idea is A1 top notch