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Old 12-03-2007, 10:08 PM
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Re: Kaiser Roto-charger on my Trans Am

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I honestly don't think any of you care about the rotocharger ... I think you really want to just see the chain spinning.
Pretty much that would mean its actually on the car...........


Hey how much air does one of those rotochargers flow? Whats the maximum speed you can spin that thing? Do you have any hard technical data that would prove that what your doing was even possible? Are you going to say anything useful?

P.S. I think your an attention *****.
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Re: Kaiser Roto-charger on my Trans Am

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Pretty much that would mean its actually on the car...........


Hey how much air does one of those rotochargers flow? Whats the maximum speed you can spin that thing? Do you have any hard technical data that would prove that what your doing was even possible? Are you going to say anything useful?

P.S. I think your an attention *****.
The thing is from the 40's LOL how would I know. I went to around 4800rpm when the chain broke but till I do a tooth count I dont know it's true rpm and even that is dependent on the speed of the power steering pump pulley. You figure out the speed of the power steering pulley verses engine rpm and I will let you know .......

If i was one I could have just used one of my past idea's those would have left you in way more shock trust me......
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This guy needs real bad.
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Re: Kaiser Roto-charger on my Trans Am

So your telling me your spinning a 60 year old piece at unknown extreemly high RPMs without knowing its safe internal speed.....

And you put a "supercharger" on your car that for all you or anybody else knows doesn't even flow enough air to support the engine its on.

Did I get all that right?
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Re: Kaiser Roto-charger on my Trans Am

this is getting old, why can't everyone just simply stop posting until pics are up? It's like pissing in the wind..
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Re: Kaiser Roto-charger on my Trans Am

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this is getting old, why can't everyone just simply stop posting until pics are up? It's like pissing in the wind..
Or up a rope maybe LOL
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Re: Kaiser Roto-charger on my Trans Am

But still this is hella funny.
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Re: Kaiser Roto-charger on my Trans Am

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this is getting old, why can't everyone just simply stop posting until pics are up? It's like pissing in the wind..
I doubt pics will ever be shown of this. He'll probably come up with some excuse that he took it off to change some things around or it burnt up. He already said he's going to have the other car for over a month so why not drive that around I don't know of one shop who wouldn't let you go in the back and get to your car for whatever reason. There's no excuse of not getting pictures. Then he gets the brilliant idea saying he needs to get a patent before showing it! That takes years to do and a lot of money. Point is, we'll never see pictures because it doesn't exist outside his warped brain.
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Re: Kaiser Roto-charger on my Trans Am

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So your telling me your spinning a 60 year old piece at unknown extreemly high RPMs without knowing its safe internal speed.....

And you put a "supercharger" on your car that for all you or anybody else knows doesn't even flow enough air to support the engine its on.

Did I get all that right?
first off it is not a supercharger it is a roto-charger ... and yea I spin it high speeds if something was going to fail it would have already .... Besides either the cars gonna go or the kaiser's gonna blow .... don't stress I used synthetic oil in it so can't fault me there. I even greased the bearings up real good.
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I doubt pics will ever be shown of this. He'll probably come up with some excuse that he took it off to change some things around or it burnt up. He already said he's going to have the other car for over a month so why not drive that around I don't know of one shop who wouldn't let you go in the back and get to your car for whatever reason. There's no excuse of not getting pictures. Then he gets the brilliant idea saying he needs to get a patent before showing it! That takes years to do and a lot of money. Point is, we'll never see pictures because it doesn't exist outside his warped brain.
Open yout mind ..... Not everything in this world can be explained there are unknowns that you may never see but they are real ......
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Or up a rope maybe LOL
It's like a box full of candy now ..... everyone wants a piece!

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Re: Kaiser Roto-charger on my Trans Am

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this is getting old, why can't everyone just simply stop posting until pics are up? It's like pissing in the wind..
Why you ask ??????? let me count the reasons

Yeti
UFO's
santa
easter bunny
big foot
lochness monster

And so many more see whether mythical or real there is always a fascination that drives us to believe. Everyone the abnormal things to hear about. so thats why this thread will grow.

Well, unless a greater force locks it ... But unlike these fictional entities I am going to give you proof!
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I know for sure i dont want a pice of **** under my hood. How much rpm can this antique handle. Reality check its 2007 not ww2 era. Or are you just that behind on the world. Perhaps you spent 20 yrs in your room and forgot that there are people out here who care about you all you need to do is go to a psychatrist and get help.
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I know for sure i dont want a pice of **** under my hood. How much rpm can this antique handle. Reality check its 2007 not ww2 era. Or are you just that behind on the world. Perhaps you spent 20 yrs in your room and forgot that there are people out here who care about you all you need to do is go to a psychatrist and get help.
Call me crazy but don't really care what is under my shiny paint .... I certainly would have shiny paint way before a nice clean engine ... Just a thought.
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i know that your paint wouldnt be shiny after the chain goes through the hood. Your an idiot just admit it. I also would perfer the element os suprise. ugly looking car, Bad *** performance. On your hand. im not so sure.
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hmmmm an ugly car with a lo-3 ..... a winning combination
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ill bet my pinks your **** will loose to mine.
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Ill bet you never taken your car to the track b4. If you want to loose your car show up at sac drags this wednesday. Or you gonna make somthin up to. Just show up to show everybody your crazy junk that supposivly beat a vette. If you beat a vette then it should be no prob right. ***** up.
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Sorry but I just don't think even a mod'ed LO-3 has what it take to outrun a L-98 ... though they share the same injection system the 350 can more then make up for mod's you have. I know mine can beat a 90 corvette by 8 car lengths so that puts in in the mid to high 13's very easily.

However this thread isn't about my car is faster then yours. So lets keep on topic ..... If it continues to stay on it's path of being locked I will just ask a moderator to lock it. I do have better things to do then respond to insults directed at me.
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Don't forget, his car is in the shop for some maaaaajor repair work. Also doubt he'll drive the 400 miles or so up to Sac.
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heck I'de take this v-6 camaro and finish the job hahahaha
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Over confidence is seen as the mother of all you know what!
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Re: Kaiser Roto-charger on my Trans Am

You guys have been ragging on Jproz enough, and the thread's turned from "the execution of this swap isn't really done properly, and we don't believe you until we see pics" to insults, so I'm locking it. If Jproz gets pictures up and wants to re-open the thread, or ask some tech related question about this swap, he can PM me. I tried emailing him, but it bounced.

BTW - A bicycle chain won't take the abuse for long. Compressing enough air to give a few psi of boost takes a ton of HP. I flipped to the "HP Required to Compress Air" tables in Machinery's Handbook, and for 10 psi, you'll need .036 HP per CFM. Assuming a 300 hp engine uses 400 cfm (I forget the rough conversion), that's 14.4 HP, not counting any friction in the belts, gears, chains, rotors, etc... A strong cyclist is good for 1/2-3/4 HP, so you'd be better off using a chain/sprocket from a 125cc dirtbike... When the bike chain snaps and whips around, it can do some good damage.

Anyways, if you (Jproz) want to open this up again, PM me. Most of the folks here have solid reasons why they're ragging on the setup, and are trying to help you learn how to do things correctly (i.e. learn from their mistakes rather than watching your happen). We've all been there, and it's great to have a resource of knowledgeable folks trying to help.

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