FSTFBDY

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If your thinking of going turbo please look through these photos and LMK what style design everyone think would be wanted.

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/oth...ens/TurboCars/


Reason being is A guy I know and BS with every day who owns
INTENSE FABRICATION is willing to do a GP run of 10 kits. ALL HOT SIDE parts.

Mild steel, Stainless,Titanium, etc.. What ever you want.
Price would depend on Material of coarse.

Were going to be fabing up this setup for me.
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/oth...oCars/preston/







Or there is the B&G setup lots of people like.
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/oth...TurboCars/B&G/

similar to SSAUTOCHROME look.







Doug prefers to use stainless for everything he does but will do mind steel and then I can coat it with TURBO X in black which is a higher temp coating for Turbo applications.

anyways.......

If your serious about needing a setup Doug and I talked today and well put together a Kit and a Jig and do a min of a 10 person GP.

I need to know which setup of headers before I can give you a accurate price.

Z28ricer

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Alright Chris you've got my interest, however.

I'd likely buy the setup *if* these requirements are met:

1. The setup is like you are wanting, a duplicate of prestons setup.

2. This fits with the stock a/c box, unmodified and at least a 3" downpipe clears, hopefully larger but please at least 3".

3. The tubes have to clear stock LT1 angle plug heads.

Beyond this i'd like prices in both mild and stainless, and mild coated.

(I'd be planning to use the setup with Corvette front accessories so i'd have plenty of clearance on the pass side for the turbo itself.)

FSTFBDY

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Wow, only 1 person interested?


Tommy,

I dont have a AC box in my car anymore. I'm Running a Non-Ac heater box. I plan to try and run a 4in downpipe off this holset. Plug angle shouldnt be a problem.

89JYturbo

I would be in if I didn't already have my system fabricated.

Just out of curiousity, does Preston run a tubular crossmember, or is that system designed to clear the stock crossmember? I feel his set-up should be the benchmark for SBC street turbo systems. Its just so pretty and performs excellent (he is in the 9s right?).

Z28ricer

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His 9 second passes were with a vortech blower before the swap to the turbo. Thats what the kink in his pass inner fender bubble was from. No idea how fast the turbo has made it thus far.

Chris I am also surprised at nobody else showing any interest, course I dont seem to be getting too many posts about ready to go LT1 and LS1 swap harnesses in the Engine Swap board

Dustin Mustangs

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I for one would be more interested if the version of this setup you want to peddle was already on a car with numbers to back it up. Preston's setup is indeed proven, but that doesn't mean you can copy it and get the same reslults. It would also help with the "what's needed" questions...needed to be moved, deleted replaced, ect. This might not intimidate some folks, but those are prob the same folks that would just fab this up themselves.

Long story short, put these exact parts on your car, click off some numbers worth bragging about, and they will sell...

Guido

Preston's setup was built around the factory k-member but he admitted it was very close to it so he swapped out to a pa racing one after the fact.

Chris, is B & G still going to be making your preston type setup? Seems like those guys are backed up right now and you will wait a little bit. I like their twin setup a lot. It fits in there good and looks good too. But I guess it boils down to what you really want either twins or single.

Im a single kind of guy myself simply because Im more drag race oriented and most rule makers frown on twins. But thats just me and I dont even have a Gen 1 block anymore. LOL

FSTFBDY

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You can't compair what it would run in my car compaired to people who would buy turbo headers and crossover. or twin headers. For 1 everyones combo is way diff. Im running a 434 with a large turbo. mini tubbed ,caged vert. So me clicking off 9 or 10 or 11 or 12's would be irrelevent.

You can Deff Copy the Design and be fine. ET results depend on WAY more then the header and cross over design.

Everyone wants a clean turbo setup and Prestons is the benchmark when It comes to a great looking engine bay. Custom block hugger style headers, simple cross over that can clear the stock k member or Tubular K member.


As for what needs to be romoved. added etc.. will be tailored to who wants what.

not everyone runs,ac smog etc.

FSTFBDY

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Curt, No I'm not having B&G do it anymore. When I contacted him to have it done in Feb. I was pressing to have it done by this weekend for the Steel Vally Nationals for a show.

I like Prestons design like I said above because of the super clean look. So Doug and I are doing that for my car. WOuld be easy to make a Jig at that same time to reproduce em if the interest is there for others.

The 4into one of the B&G and SSAUTOCHROME headers are nice also. Simple design, and can be adapted for Twins or a single easy enough.

Brian is deff swamped with mustang kits so I just mentioned the topic to The guy I BS with everyday. He said that either setup would be easy to do.

Z28ricer

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Chris, do you have some sort of an idea for me on the pricing, im already supposed to be buying a rack and some of the parts to go with the setup from someone, and that turbo setup will conflict with the rack, no way around it, I dont believe i want to not buy the rack, however it *might* have to end up on the shelf for the turbo system if the price is right, my other dilemma is im looking to start producing my wiring harnesses for LT1 swaps soon and was hoping to use my car as the demo car, an installation that looks like it rolled off the gm assembly line with the motor, not just thrown in there as most others end up looking. The turbo setup would definetly take away from this ability, though I do have a few friends cars that I can have as demo's of my "stock" harnesses.

Again, what approx am I going to be looking at for the headers and crossover, mild steel bare, mild steel black coated.

(PS im STILL waiting on a hood

DIGGLER

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i would be interested in prestons setup.... if i can run an 88 on there.

im not worried about a/c or serpentine stuff either.

83 Crossfire TA

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Does anyone know what thermostat housing that is?

Does anyone know what size down pipe Preston’s setup is using? Looks to be either 3” or 3.5”, especially if the inlet is the typical 4” inlet used on most larger turbos.

As far as setups, something like preston’s setup will not work with a stock K-member, at least not without solid mounts that are taller then stock ones or alternatively without notching the K-member in assorted locations (actually, if you were willing to pull the engine to do the final notching this could be made to work and look very nice). My $.02: that design compromises a lot of things in a 3rd gen chassis (mostly clearances, you’ll end up spending most of your life trying to find room to work on things and chasing noises/issues) without a tubular or modified K to get that look and you could go just as fast with something that does not look as cool, but also doesn’t snake the plumbing around the motor mounts, around the front of the engine…

Not to be a pessimist, but I’d suggest getting a better idea of the range of prices for each setup for people, like I’ve said before, I’d bet that the prices for a nice fabrication job will scare most people away. Hell, if I could get acceptable parts for the prices that most people around here are willing to pay I wouldn’t bother building my own stuff most of the time.

DIGGLER

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the pics posted of the ssautochrome headers are of my car. thermostat housing.... i honestly dont know. it came with the intake, and i bought that used. the intake is an accel proram.

Balael6

i'd be interested in something just like ss autochrome's headers. What price we looking at here? stainless would be nice, but not necessary.

pj

iansane

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I'd be interested in the twin setup here. Just started working agian so I can afford more fun stuff for the car now.

Sorry if I missed you saying this, it's a little late. But are you looking for ten people total with any/all of these setups or 10 dedicated on one style?

FSTFBDY

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Back from the poconos.

Mark, Prestons setup was done with the Stock K member 1st. and I belive he is running a 2.5 crossover.

Im prefer to do a GP of 10 on one setup. I'm doing prestons setup for my car so making a jig for that would be easy while we were at my setup.

but If everyone wants one like SSAUTOCHROME headers that could be adapter for Single or Twins.

I'll have a idea on price range some time this week or the begining of next week.

I know for a fact Its not gona be a Stainless price like SSAUTO offers. I dont even see how they buy good stainless for that price.

Quick_Trans_Am

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Chris, I'm interested. If you could get mild and stainless prices, but the big thing for me is the smog equipment, considering I can't really touch it... yet. Will that setup work around the smog pump and emissions garbage?

83 Crossfire TA

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I hate to say it but that setup has been so hashed and rehashed that I’m not sure that most of the information that people know about it is true. I know that years ago, when this setup first turned up I had a few email exchanges with him where he said that there is no way that that setup will fit with the tock K-member. Having run plumbing through that area I would be very surprised if it did fit even with some modifications.



I was wondering about the down pipe. FWIW, for the most part, 2.5 for the crossover is overkill unless you plan to make A LOT of hp

FSTFBDY

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I recall e-mailing him long ago about the turbo setup. ( such as who made it etc...)

He made it himself, was a stock K member but cut it really close, so he swaped to a tubular one. I got all the pic's I have from him not the net.

luckely I have a tubular k member so I plan to run a 3inch DP. but I plan to mock up his setup on a stand all setup with stock k-member and work things out if someone is interested.

89JYturbo

Chris, if I were buying either the B&G or SSAC headers, one of my main concerns would be routing for the downpipe(s), particularly on the LH side where the DP would need to fit down between the steering shaft and exhaust manifold primary tubes. It looks to me like B&G made a bend in the #7 primary at just the right spot to sneak in a 2.5" DP (which would be fine), but I'm a little confused by the turbine outlet they fabbed up in this pic:



Where were they going with that pipe? It looks to me like they would need to do a sharp bend right out of the turbo and go down under the #7 primary. I really like those headers best of all, but I wouldn't mind seeing some installed pics to see what they have planned for the rest of the hot plumbing.

I don't even know what the SSAC headers would use for a DP- I'm assuming the DP would route back under the headers, just over the crossmember? Even that would require some creative plumbing judging from the pics.

I know in my car, the LH DP fit very tight, even with the compact stock manifolds. It required a hard downward bend right out of the turbine to clear the brake booster, then I had to 'massage' it (read hammer flat) to fit between the manifold and steering shaft (I used 2.25" DPs). Here is a photo: (notice easy access to all the plugs without pulling the DP off)

http://www.cecoatings.com/images/oth...ystem%2052.jpg

The brake lines and combo valve had to be repositioned to clear my exhaust plumbing. Not a real big deal, but an issue none-the-less.

I'm not trying to be negative here, I just wanted to express my concern so that you guys can address it once you break out the band saw and the welder. Maybe there is more room there than the pics are showing. I would love to see some of these headers bolted up in person, just to get a feel for how clearances would be with all the accessories.

87CIZ

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i'd rather have twin turbo but i can live with a single for now. Get a price and then we'll see but i'm about positive im in. LMK

Z28ricer

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Have any of you seriously even looked into this ? Fitment of the parts, getting a good overall fit ? How about mounting an intercooler and routing pipes ? I dont get it I seem to be outnumbered 5 to 1, and the sad part is im after the setup thats actually worthwhile and useable, is it just that you guys want "twin turbo" to say you have two ? Not like any of you are even likely to surpass the capability of a large single.......

87CIZ

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i'd much rather have 2 but I'm trying to figure out the intercooler setup right now. With a single i could run the setup like willie with his procharger. Otherwise i have to find 2 small intercoolers to make my own. And with no way to make this kind of stuff right now, it's hard figuring all this stuff out. I know running the piping for the TT setup would be alot easier but i don't know where to get it welded up as my welder setup sucks. I still dont know what kind of turbo's i need or anything. but as i said whichever way is cheapest will probably get me. i just want to run around 12 lbs of boost . I have alot left to learn. But i have figured out that a TT setup requires a smaller pipe for each turbo than a single big turbo. And with the cramped engine bays that means alot.

Z28ricer

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So you'd rather have twice the intake plumbing, twice the turbo outlet plumbing, twice the downpipes, two oil feed lines, two oil drains. And this is supposed to make for a less clustered engine bay and be easier to work on ?
And you'd like it to be cheaper, but you want to have to buy a pair of turbos, a pair of wastegates, two air filters, run twice the inlet plumbing, pay more for having an intercooler with dual inlets or tubing to Y them together, or two smaller coolers.

Interesting theory here.....

87CIZ

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it'll happen and it'll be clean. Once i buy a welder to fit my needs everything will go alot smoother. Anyway the single turbo is fine.

iansane

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Wow. Calm down. It's okay. Not everyone wants to do exactly what you want to do.

Z28ricer

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Good response to a logical point.

iansane

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Well what do you want me to say? You're getting real worked up over some of us not wanting to start out on the biggest/baddest platform available.

Some people mod civics, other choose two turbos. It's just a preference. Obviously anyone whose willing to spend the money (hopefully) has spent the time researching how everything will go together.

Hell you took the low road when you chose to buy a 305. Should I yell at you for not picking the option with the most potential? See what I mean here?

Z28ricer

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Not wanting to start out on the biggest baddest platform available ? Maybe i'm missing something here, but it seems like everyone is yapping about wanting the twin turbo headers just to say they have twin turbo, and act like they will be able to surpass the capability of a large single.

My gripe is that more than likely none of those who have posted have spent much for time measuring, searching out parts, planning out the best fitment for mounting and routing an intercooler, intake pipes, downpipes etc. Strictly asking for twin turbo cause they think they'll be cool telling friends its got "twins"
Rather than a single setup that will fit better, take up less space, cost less, and still have more than enough capability to make stupid power.

As far as my 305 goes, well theres another post without any research, and plenty of only looking at the surface, im not asking for a turbo kit for my Heritage Edition car, nor did i choose the lower platform with it, that car was ordered with the G92 package, do a little research and find that they were just as fast, if not faster than the 350 cars in 92, not to mention more fun to drive, and I didnt get the car to be fast, I got it cause its rare and an awesome car as far as options, there were only a handful of 92 G92 305's made.

Not to mention as far as "getting the low road picking the 305"

I definetly wasnt after the "performance" part of the car when I got it, i traded an 88 camaro with it, heres a little list of what the car had for not "picking the low road with a 305"

LT1 / T56
Spohn Crossmember mounted torque arm
Global West Del-A-Lum bushings
Spohn Spherical Cr-Mo lca's
Spohn Spherical Cr-Mo PHR
BMR 3 Point STB
Dual Friction clutch
1LE front brakes
Autometer Ultra Lite gauges (full panel every gauge)
GTA wheels
91-92 Z hood and wing
4th gen Seats
Drilled and slotted rotors
3rd gen 92 posi disc axle
Jamex Springs
KYB AGX adjustable shocks/struts
Pro5.0 Shifter
SLP 1.75" coated headers
3" HF cat
3" intermediate pipe with single in/out hooker aerochamber

iansane

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I don't need/care about your car history. You don't need to prove anything to me. Besides half that stuff doesn't have anything to do with the engine. 4th gen seats? Awesome performance mod there. All the reason to tell me about it.

I know what the g92 package entails. Obviously however, the 350 would be your single turbo setup with more potential, less clutter, etc. and the 305 is like the twin setup. Besides I never said your car sucked. It sounds great. I love manuals over autos. That's why I swapped. Do you see what I'm saying here? Just try to understand for a second, okay? I'm not against you at all. You just went off on a rant and I was trying to help you figure it out. Okay?

Don't go assuming people don't read. I'm just trying to help you understand why someone would choose the twins over the single. Obviously most of the general public is going to think twins > single because there are more turbos. I'm leaning to twins because I'm retarded and just like the idea. It's a project. I've read all about the plumbings issues and I know and can definately comprehend the fact that routing tubing for twins into intercoolers is going to be difficult. Doesn't mean I think twins are better.

Sorry TPI383 for hijacking your thread.

1bdbrd

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i cant speak for everyone, but personally i dont give a damn what people think when i tell them how many power adders my car has. i would let the cars performance speak for itself. having said that, twins ARE better than a big single. common sense here. do you want a single turbo that makes lots of hp in a short range of rpms or two smaller turbos that spool sooner and make just as much power and make it for a long power band? thats the biggest problem with single turbo supras. they are in boost for about 3k rpms or so. the cars would be SO much faster if the turbos spooled maybe 2-3k rpms SOONER than what they typically do. THAT is why i want twins. a big single WOULD work and would work good with a properly setup auto. but im wanting a highway stormer that works good at the track with a 6 speed. so a big single wont do it for me like a properly setup twin kit would.

87CIZ

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i said twins because of the downpipe size 2 3 inch pipes are alot easier to run than a single 4 in the engine bay of these cars. I've already figured out how i want to mount my intercoolers. I've already routed everything but the downpipes because i have to figure out how these headers fit the turbo's. And what's it matter if i want twins instead of a single? I'm keeping the air conditioning in my car. I don't have a ****load of space for this monster single turbo. Plus I'm only planning on running 10 - 12lbs of boost . Which can easily be done just for top end. My engine is a torque monster on the lower end. The only thing i dont have figured out on the car is the EFI that I'm going to use.

Also what relevance does it have if i want twins? He asked about several different headers if anyone was interested. But you had to run your mouth like a little kid. Geez your probably older than me and more immature

|end of rant|

i dont mean to be an ******* but i said nothing to be attacked for wanting twins.

Also I'm sorry TPI383 just its stupid to be attacked because I'd rather have 2 small turbo's instead of one huge one.




also to answer your question TPI383 i think the B&G setup might be easier to run but i'm up for it, or the ones similiar to ssautochrome or whatever.


who's car is that with the B&G setup? that's pretty much the same EFI I'm doing I'd love to see more pictures.

1bdbrd

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i also forgot to ask, if this GP goes through, will there be the ability later on down the road to have whatever style of header we want fabbed up? the SS Auto Chrome is very close to what i want for my car but i dont want their crappy quality. so lets say the GP goes through for a setup like prestons car has, what happens later on if i want an SSAC style twin setup? will i be able to contact them and work something out? if so would the price be reasonable?

i ask because i just lost my job. but i plan to be back in the game in a few months from now and when/if i am this is one of the first things i want to buy that way i can get that underway.

83 Crossfire TA

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Start measuring, you’ll find that 2 3” pipes isn’t really easier. It can be done but not without compromising some or totally relocating some of the brake assembly, and even then there really isn’t a good way to run it under the car without loosing quite a bit of ground clearance (as if these cars have loads to spare). If you wanted to go all out, you could do it nicely with a relocated brake assembly (or go manual), sending the #7 primary tube in a big loop outwards towards the brakes and tucking the 3” DP between that primary and the head, then modifying the crossmember and/or oil pan to fit a 3” in the stock location… From there you have the same problems as with a 4” single.

The 4” single isn’t _that_ hard to do if you’re willing make some slight modifications to the front passenger side subframe where the exhaust passes through/around at the back/bottom of the firewall, or if you run solid bushings in the LCA’s so that you can run the down pipe right against it without fear of melting it. Or you can do a little cutting up a little higher and run the 4” like JoBy ran around his big block.

This was part of the reason that I originally asked about the DP size on Preston’s setup, looking at the pics for about the millionth time in this thread I could swear that he’s running a single 3” down pipe. And I know of at least 2 f-bodies cars running low 11’s with a single 2.75” down pipes. I think one of the early LT1 kits actually used a 2.5” down pipe. None of these are optimal, but it’s interesting “what you can get away with…”

Z28ricer

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Your points are irrelevant, like i said your just out to yap about how you've got twin turbo's, do a little actual research, a reasonable single will make power no problem down low, more than you've got traction for, there are plenty of LT1 4th gens with turbos to provide enough examples of this, as far as a downpipe goes, hahaha yeah you really need a 4" downpipe, yeah right.... take a little bit more time to research, now before you go saying this is rediculous and what you should use, this is not what im saying, again like mark said, an example of what actually can be done. PTK single turbo kit on a stock LT1 EXCEPT for 1.6 rockers. T66 turbo .96 a/r exhaust housing (not some huge single that takes forever to spool since for some odd reason you guys havent researched this and have turbo lag in your heads) 8 psi of boost, water to air intercooler with tap water in it. 2.5" downpipe YES thats correct two and a half inch downpipe. 479 RWHP 555 RWTQ, 11.31 @ 126 in the 1/4, peak torque at 3400 rpm ( you know boost came in a good bit before this) and this is with a heavy 4th gen.

Again i've made quite a few logical and reasonable points, all you guys have to defend yourself is "well uhh yeah my twins will make boost first" and even at that you *might* have a chance. Otherwise a bunch of crap on how what you havent researched is what you want to believe and cant stray from it.

1bdbrd

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suddenly a turbo engine makes power like an NA engine? peak torque will come as soon as the turbo fully spools. not sometime after. you also didnt mention if that car was an auto or a manual. like i said before, im not interested in some big stalled auto that CAN spool a big turbo pretty quick. ill be running a 6 speed with some streetable gears so its gonna have a harder time spooling that t66.

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Again i've made quite a few logical and reasonable points, all you guys have to defend yourself is "well uhh yeah my twins will make boost first" and even at that you *might* have a chance. Otherwise a bunch of crap on how what you havent researched is what you want to believe and cant stray from it.

the only thing youve done is assumed that we only want twins for the bling factor. how about you tell that to the guys running the HKS twins on a mark 4 supra because they spool faster than a big single does. or how about tellin that to harlan who is running in the 7s at around 176mph with twins. PLEASE tell him hes only doing it for the bling factor.

87CIZ

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from what I'm reading in the book "Turbochargers" who everyone says is a great starting point int turbos because the guy apparently knows what the hell he's talking about.

"Another decision to be made is whether to use one or two turbochargers. If the engine is a small in-line four, it is easy to decide on one turbocharger. Evan an in-line six looks good with one turbocharger unless the desired output is very high. When it comes to a V or oppsed engine, other factors must be considered. If one turbo is to be used, you have to pipe the exhaust gases from one side to the other, or at least join the two exhaust manifolds. Because the exhaust pipes get considerably hotter than the rest of the engine they expand more. Unless some sort of flexibility is built in, they will eventually crack and leak exhaust pressure. This is discussed in Chapter 15, page 108. Using two smaller units eliminates this exhaust-system problem because the turbocharger system needs to be connected only on the compressor side. It is often easier to fit two small turbochargers under the hood than one large one."

now i used 3 inch as an example because i havent decided on the turbos i am going to use. So i don't know what the discharge size is. Be it 2 - 3 inches.

Now can we stop the and try to get on with the group purchase. I myself am interested in all 3 kits. whichever gets the most i'm up for. I don't really care since i havent decided on my turbos anyway. And i can't fabricate my intercoolers until i figure out if im running twin or single.

Guido

Take it down a notch gentelmen. This is about getting in on a group purchase. At this point, its a pissing match and neither one of you is going to back down.

So chill out and get back on topic.

FSTFBDY

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Thank You...

Lets get back on topic dang it.

Im testing the watters. No matter what IM making a preston setup for MY car. Materials are already on the way.

What Im looking for is Which I can get a GP of 10 together for easier.

I don't want to put the time and $ into making a setup and a Jig if its gona sit in a corner collecting dust and be a waste of $.

10 people want the SSauto headers easy enough. That setup can be ran as Single or Dual easy enough.

10 People want prestons setup We can work around that.

Doug and I havent had time this week to figure out prices. He has 2 World Of Outlaw cars and 2 custom chopers in the show now doing work on.

Im hoping 2morrow or next week to sit down and figure out a estamite on price. Soon as I get my set done Im sure we can have a close cost.

1bdbrd

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like i said before, i really wont be in the market till later this year. is this something that will still be an option then (at say a higher price)?

Balael6

Yes please do get an estimate of price, stainless is not needed at all, I'm sure people are looking for reliable, which ssautochrome has been known sometimes not to be.

pj

FSTFBDY

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Id put my $$ on these being RELIABLE. Doug does custom SS exh. for $80k choppers. Some of these bikes make OCC look like they are new in the field.

iansane

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Judging from what I've seen from your posts TPI; I'd trust any work that you'll trust. The stuff you get done and do yourself looks amazing.

87CIZ

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i like the preston setup. Would LS1 shorties work with it also ya think? A buddy of mine wants to put a turbo on his LS1 Iroc. It'll be a few months for the cash but the preston setup looks pretty well packed. I'm leaning more towards it.

Sorry everyone for the above....

FSTFBDY

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Ive never dabbles into LS1 stuff but Im gona say No. I belive the ports are in diff locations. No clue about motor mounts etc.

Its worth a looking into since your buddy has a ls1 in his car.

TurboedTPI

I'm with you. Whats with all these poeple that think twin turbo is the best way to go. All it is, is more unneeded stuff packed into an already cramped engine bay. And you are right about 4in down pipes, they're not needed unless your planing on making some ridiculous amount of power. My buddy has a turbo LS1 camaro with a 2.5 in down pipe and intercooller pipes making 465 rwhp. Stock motor with 7 lbs of boost. My car has a 3 in downpipe and i dont plan on making a bigger down pipe. Its not needed.

Z28ricer

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Yeah, i'm kinda done trying to help them with facts, let them read that book which they praise so much, which I believe was probably written in the 80's, long before todays machining tolerances, computer aided design to help in turbine wheel engineering, etc. The idea for getting this setup is about wearing off, they want to go on and on about how they "think" they're going to gain a lot with all of the extra hassle and money of the twin setup, now its one more person they need to get for the twins cause I wont go for it, heck I cant it wouldnt fit for me. Sorry one actual cash in hand customer out of the running, ah well i've already got a bottle anyway

87CIZ

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i'll probably end up running a single as my budget is dwindling. So I'm with ya z28***** sorry for all that, I just figured 2 smaller turbos would be easier to find room to mount than a single large one. But if I relocate the battery I've got all kinds of room. I was thinking you could run the downpipes sorta like the stock exhaust routing, maybe i was wrong. Either way a large turbo that can deliver 10 - 15 lbs is good for me. I dont care about spool time as my engine is built for low end anyway and it's already all forged internals.

One question though on the pictures in your first post how does the passenger side header hook up with the crossover before the inlet? i'm guessing it runs behind the motor mount? How does that clear the k-member?

Steven89Iroc

Once again for the thread's sake, please keep single vs. twin arguments in their own threads. I'll be glad to jump in on them there.

I'm not interested in the headers since my kit is done and ready to install, but to me it seems that the SSautochrome duplicates in "good quality" would be the best bet for everyone since it seems the majority of people want them and you said it wouldn't be too terribly hard to do single or twins with them, that leaves options open for everyone... Just my friendly advice.

On that note, how hard would it actually be to make a crossover adapter for a single with those?

FSTFBDY

iTrader: (33)

Similar to this....

What got me around to doing this is I was sopost to get my kit from B&G back in Feb. and havent got it yet. So I asked my buddy and he said NO PROBLEM. then he got to asking about others interest in em.

So I showed him Prestons,SSAUTOCHROME and B&G's

So the SSAUTO/B&G setup like this could be ran as single or twin.

Cross over pic's


http://www.cecoatings.com/images/oth...TurboCars/B&G/