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Old 07-13-2013, 02:06 AM
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Ran the car with new exhaust

Ok got to run the car again this Friday, really enjoying racing so much although my bracket racing wasn't great this time around .

Anyways, since last time I removed my 3" Magnaflow muffler and stock over the axle pipe, and had a 3" Dynomax Bullet muffler installed and dumped right at the axle.

It sounds awesome, the Magnaflow completely covered up the sound of the camshaft before, now you can tell it has a decent cam and compression .

New PB tonight, the car went 13.41 @ 103.88 on a 2.036 and 13.40 @ 103.81, but ran 103.5+ all night. Previously, it was running 13.47 and slower at mid 101's and once at 102.8

So basically picked up anywhere from 1-2 mph, if averaged all of my runs probably 1.5 mph. I am very happy with the mph.

I still don't get why the car won't 60', I guess the only thing left is the converter. I upped the float levels, tried bumping the timing, the inital hit is hard and then it just rolls out lazy and then picks way up. I am also thinking about trying to lock my timing up to see if that helps the 60'.
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Re: Ran the car with new exhaust

A converter will help a lot, especially if you have a cam in it.

congrats on the new pb !
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Re: Ran the car with new exhaust

needs a converter for sure, u will easily be 12s!

instead of locking timing, why dont you change out the springs/weights so the advance comes in much sooner.
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Low 10x mph = low 13s. I have honestly run as fast and a stock L 98. But I also ran a 1.8x 60' on street radials. I would bet that I could have run a high 12 with headers and that exhaust in that car. To me that suggests that you have a tuning or driving problem or u would be seeing more mph in the 1/4
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Low 10x mph = low 13s. I have honestly run as fast and a stock L 98. But I also ran a 1.8x 60' on street radials. I would bet that I could have run a high 12 with headers and that exhaust in that car. To me that suggests that you have a tuning or driving problem or u would be seeing more mph in the 1/4
I am also not doubting it may have tuning issues trying to sort those out now . I am thinking of locking my timing out at 36* to see if it helps it 60' better.

My L98 with 90k miles went 14.93 @ 93 mph on a 2.275 60', at the time it only had K&N filters and some basic weight reduction.

Shorty headers, Y pipe, magnaflow muffler, Summit 2800 converter and drag radials got it down to 14.19 @ 96 mph on a 2.04 60'

Vortec heads, Lunati 218/228@.050 112 lsa .535/.540 cam, Summit Stage 1 intake, 650 double pumper, 3.70 gears went 13.47 @ 102.8

Switching from the Magnaflow to a bullet went 13.41 @ 103.88


Just trying to figure out what to do next, I am wondering how much the car would pick up with a Perform RPM Air Gap, then I will definitely need a cowl hood though.
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sounds like you are consistently 4 to 5 1/10s slower to the 60' than I would expect from the combination. That would = .6 - .8 by the end of the track. Sounds like you're running a stock converter. What gears/tires? Are you bogging or spinning off the line?
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it may need some accelerator pump tuning or maybe even jet tuning. have you done any carb tweaking other than float levels? do you have a link to the carb you have specifically?

a performer RPM would pick it up another mph or so i bet.
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Re: Ran the car with new exhaust

Originally Posted by 83 Crossfire TA
sounds like you are consistently 4 to 5 1/10s slower to the 60' than I would expect from the combination. That would = .6 - .8 by the end of the track. Sounds like you're running a stock converter. What gears/tires? Are you bogging or spinning off the line?
3.70 gears, used 2800 Summit brand converter, Mickey Thompson ET Drag radials. I can just about flat foot the car out of the hole. The weight transfers nice, it hits hard initially, then rolls out a few feet then picks up and goes.

Originally Posted by mw66nova
it may need some accelerator pump tuning or maybe even jet tuning. have you done any carb tweaking other than float levels? do you have a link to the carb you have specifically?

a performer RPM would pick it up another mph or so i bet.
When we first got it running, we used a vacuum gauge to adjust the 4 corner idle, but that was some time ago. I have dropped the primary jets down 2 sizes as it seemed fat all around. Other than that, I haven't changed anything else.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/qft-hr-650

This is the carb I am running. Maybe I am describing this wrong, but it seems like a "flat" spot, initial hit and hookup is hard, then flat, then hard.
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sounds like you need to bump up squirter size!
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I'm going to third that, sounds to me like you need more accelerator pump. I doubt that locking out the timing will help any, I'm not sure what you're using but you should be all in by the time your converter stalls. It might remove a variable from tuning making it a little easier but I doubt that it will work better. You'd probably also gain a little from a higher stall/better converter, but unless there's something really wrong with your existing one it won't be enough to make it worth the work or the $$$
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Re: Ran the car with new exhaust

Originally Posted by mw66nova
it may need some accelerator pump tuning or maybe even jet tuning. have you done any carb tweaking other than float levels? do you have a link to the carb you have specifically?

a performer RPM would pick it up another mph or so i bet.
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3.70 gears, used 2800 Summit brand converter, Mickey Thompson ET Drag radials. I can just about flat foot the car out of the hole. The weight transfers nice, it hits hard initially, then rolls out a few feet then picks up and goes.



When we first got it running, we used a vacuum gauge to adjust the 4 corner idle, but that was some time ago. I have dropped the primary jets down 2 sizes as it seemed fat all around. Other than that, I haven't changed anything else.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/qft-hr-650

This is the carb I am running. Maybe I am describing this wrong, but it seems like a "flat" spot, initial hit and hookup is hard, then flat, then hard.
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sounds like you need to bump up squirter size!
Gonna bump the squirter size up 3 sizes and see what happens thanks for the advice guys.
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Re: Ran the car with new exhaust

Originally Posted by 83 Crossfire TA
I'm going to third that, sounds to me like you need more accelerator pump. I doubt that locking out the timing will help any, I'm not sure what you're using but you should be all in by the time your converter stalls. It might remove a variable from tuning making it a little easier but I doubt that it will work better. You'd probably also gain a little from a higher stall/better converter, but unless there's something really wrong with your existing one it won't be enough to make it worth the work or the $$$
Thanks going to give that a shot!
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