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Old 01-19-2009, 02:52 PM
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UPDATED FOR THE YEAR 2010 LEGISLATION, PLEASE CHECK POST #15

I don't know if you all have been following the latest attempt to rid Virginia of the front license plate, but here is an update and a chance for you to help get rid of it. The update is from the Virginia Car Club Council. As some of you may know, this has been the closest we've gotten in a while because the greenies are joining us. I know it's short notice, but please become active in trying to get rid of the front tags.

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On January 15th the Senate Transportation Committee of the General Assembly met to consider SB 957 - one of the one-license plate bills. The bill's sponsor withdrew the bill. I do not know why. The House version of the one-plate bill HB 1731 is on the docket to be discussed at the January 20th (tomorrow) meeting of the House Transportation Committee. If you wish you may contact members of the committee and ask them to support HB 1731. If you email them be sure to include the bill number in your email. Please send each member one email and do not send a mass email to all members. If passed this measure would save over $2 million the first year and over a million each year after. This is a "green" measure as it would save half the materials used to make plates and stickers. Police officers will be more productive in stopping dangerous motor vehicle violations such as drunk driving, reckless driving, speeding, etc., since their time will not be compromised by a Virginia motorist who simply did not have a front license plate on display. A front license plate restricts the performance of passenger vehicles. Modern cars are no longer being designed with front plates in mind. Installing the mounting brackets that are necessary to hold the plates interfere with the cars' aerodynamics, often get damaged during the
car-washing process and also cause a devaluation of Collectors Edition or other such Limited Edition vehicles when required to drill or otherwise modify the front bumper. Unnecessary damage is sustained from minor bumper-to-bumper collisions, because the front mounting brackets on passenger cars can cause cracks and abrasions to the rear bumpers of the cars that they hit. Members and emails for the House Transportation Committee are below.
Members of the House Transportation Committe and Emails:

Delegate Joe T. May (chairman) DelJMay@house.virginia.gov
Delegate G. Glenn Oder DelGOder@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Christopher B. Saxman DelCSaxman@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Charles W. Carrico, Sr. DelCCarrico@house.virginia.gov
Delegate John A. Cosgrove DelJCosgrove@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Thomas D. Gear DelTGear@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Thomas Davis Rust DelTRust@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Timothy D. Hugo DelTHugo@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Edward T. Scott DelEScott@house.virginia.gov
Delegate William H. Fralin, Jr. DelWFralin@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Robert Tata DelBTata@house.virginia.gov
Delegate G. Manoli Loupassi DelMLoupassi@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Barry D. Knight DelBKnight@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Jeion A. Ward DelJWard@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Adam P. Ebbin DelAEbbin@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Mamye E. BaCote DelMBaCote@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Dave W. Marsden DelDMarsden@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Shannon R. Valentine DelSValentine@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Robert H. Brink DelRBrink@house.virginia.gov
Delegate David J. Toscano DelDToscano@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Paul F. Nichols DelPNichols@house.virginia.gov
Delegate Delores L. McQuinn DelDMcQuinn@house.virginia.gov

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Re: Virginia Front License Plate...

I will defintely send them an email tomorrow. I for one have refused to put a front plate on in the 5 years I've been here. NO WAY am I drilling holes in my firebird. My daily drivers are another story.
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And the congregation said "AMEN"
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I'm not sure if everyone has been following this over the years, but it has always been the Virginia State Police and local Police who have fought against this. This has always been enough to stop the 1 tag bills from passing. With the economy and the new "stronger" green tree huggers the Police have not had it as easy in killing this bill. Still, it will take many people supporting the 1 tag bill for this to pass.

I will provide any updates that I receive.

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thanks Its currently about to go under the knife and get new heads/cam/gears/exhaust with 1234brds help
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tell that to the guy on another thread who said I had no business picking up a wrench.LOL
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wait what? some people are just stupid
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Re: Virginia Front License Plate...

As usual the State Police and other Law enforcement of Virginia got it killed. I did want to provide any interested parties with a link concerning the 1 tag:

Car Hobbyists,
Delegate Cole's HB 1731 (the single license plate bill) was defeated this morning (January 20th) in the House Transportation Committee on a 15 to 1 vote. There was significant opposition from the State Police and Sheriffs' Association (law enforcement concerns - they mentioned tracking stolen cars, using license plate "readers" and Amber Alerts). There also was opposition from AAA, and VDOT (toll enforcement). Cole mentioned how it would save the Commonwealth $1 million in plate distribution fees. No one else spoke in support of the bill. Significantly, there was no mention of the drag coefficient of front plates (1% to 3%), and how that affects gas mileage (up to $65 a year for the average motorist - times 1 million vehicles equals over $60 million a year in fuel savings and reducing greenhouse gas emissions). Senator Cuccinelli had the same bill on the Senate side (SB 937), but he withdrew the bill last week. So, its dead and gone this year.

Thanks to Greg Lucyk for this update. Legislation being considered by the General Assembly is posted on the http://vaacc.org website.

If you have any questions you may respond to this by email or call me at 804-590-9583.

Fred Fann, Car Club Council of Central Virginia
http://www.carclubcouncil.com/oneplate.html

There's always next year.

And, also, Car Club Council of Central Virginia:

http://www.carclubcouncil.com/
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figures. I'll just have to chance the ticket every time I drive.
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It's plenty frustrating. At one time you would see these bills every year, but this years has been the first in two or three years. The Police organizations in our state hold so much power with our Delegates that I simply find it very unlikely we will ever get to one tag.

Anyway, if a new bill comes next year I'll post again.
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bump...its been almost a year. Are they going to do this again?
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Hi Justin,

I'll probably know more ~ the 2nd week of January. I will make a post in this thread if a new bill is introduced. Of course, as I said last year, the Delegates have their noses up the Police organizations rear ends so I guess I'm a little cynical over the matter.

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man, i lived in VA for almost a yr and got hassled all the time, pulled over prolly a half dozen times...the only way i got out if it was having my car registered in KY in my parents name. I'll fight with ya cause i know how bad it sux, just let me know who to contact when the time is right!!!
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I never got pulled over on my camaro, or my vette. GF never got pulled over in her T/A either. I got pulled over about a month ago in my s10 i told him i lost it on 495 and he wrote me a warning lol. I put it back on...the vette though i will gladly accept the ticket and pay the fine. I hate front plates.
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Justin et al,

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...?101+sum+SB519

Bill text:

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...?101+ful+SB519

From:

http://www.carclubcouncil.com/

More:

http://vaacc.org/

Please, if this interests you please write your state legislators as well as the others in an effort to get this through. One point that is working for us this year unlike many previous years is the economy.

I hope this helps.
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I will continue to update as information is provided to me. Thanks guys and gals for your time and interest in this.
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Just made a new thread concerning VA state bill concerning Aftermarket Exhaust. If you have not seen it here is the link: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/mid-...ml#post4402785

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Its still kind of early and maybe my coffee hasnt kicked in yet. Are they now only issuing one license plate per vehicle? If so, then I guess that means we dont technically need a front plate
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Justin, it was killed. As usual the horses ***** are worthless. This thread, as usual, garnered very little interest because the people will not hold these worthless politicians to the fire for anything they do, even "little" things like this.

Here it is directly from Fred Fann:

Hi,

The one license plate bill was killed in committee back in January. I think it was on the 22nd. Every year for the last few years at least one bill for the one plate gets introduced and none have made it out of committee. The State Police are against it, the toll companies are against it because they photograph the front license plate on toll runners. There are several members of the General Assembly that oppose it for security reasons. In 2002 a study was done that found a savings of $2 million the first year and about a million a year after that if the state went with one plate. The General Assembly isn't interested in saving that money.
I doubt we will ever go to one plate in Virginia.

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I'll see you here next year Justin, same time same place with, likely, the same result.

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and you too. Thanks for keeping me informed. Until I can voice my opinion again next year I'll just have to continue chancing getting a ticket.
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