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Old 06-19-2013, 08:11 PM
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Today I started putting a hydroboost system on my car. The system is off of a one ton Chevy truck. I had to make a mounting bracket and a new rod but I think it should work pretty good. I'll post pic after I get it installed.
Now this is something I'm very interested in hearing about. Please let us know how everything goes and put up plenty of pictures
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I have everything mocked up for my hydro boost set up. I had to make the hole where the master cylinder goes into the booster bigger because I wanted to use the stock master cylinder. I also had to make a bracket to mount the booster, for this I used the bracket that is riveted to the back of the stock booster. I bolted it to the car and then marked on the booster where it needed to mount then the two was welded together. Now all I have to do is make a new rod and get new lines. The lines off of the truck are about 6 inches to long. If anybody has any questions I'll attempt to answer

This picture shows where I had to make the hole bigger.

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This is what the whole thing looks like together.

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This is what the bracket looks like after it was tacked on to the booster.

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This is the setup mocked up in the car.

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I finished installing my hydroboost system the other day and I took it out for a test drive. After driving it for about 3 miles the brakes locked up, there wasn't enough play in the peddle. After I loosened the nuts that hold the master cylinder to the booster the brakes worked great. The peddle has a different feel than the normal vacuum booster. I reused all of the lines from the truck, the only mod I had to do to them is have one cut off and a 90 degree put on. The pictures below show the final install of the booster and lines.

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I'm sure you've gotten this before, but what kind of switches are those in place of the standard/stock power window switches?....I've done searches and haven't found anything lol. Awesome build so far!
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One switch is for the neutral safety switch and the other is my electric fuel pump. My car has manual windows so that area was empty and I thought that was a good spot to put the switches. They are just switches from autozone that came with the covers. I painted the covers red.
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Good platform for a nice car. Stripper pole is one thing I never thought of doing, could be handy!
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Re: Third gen on a college kids budget

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One switch is for the neutral safety switch and the other is my electric fuel pump. My car has manual windows so that area was empty and I thought that was a good spot to put the switches. They are just switches from autozone that came with the covers. I painted the covers red.
Oh ok! They look great regardlesss
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Four motors isn't THAT much.. Mine has had atleast 7 ranging from stock to a 600whp 383 to a 289whp 307.

Good luck with the rest of the car.
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Re: Third gen on a college kids budget

Yesterday I went to the local junkyard to see if they had any new third gens, they didn't. But I ended up picking up a set of KYB AGV rear shocks and a set of ls1 brakes off the same car. I figure for 65 dollars it wasn't a bad deal.
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Awesome car man! Im just starting college so its nice to see what you can do on a budget! Can't wait to start building my car, gotta get it running first though
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Looks like a pretty sweet ride.
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Re: Third gen on a college kids budget

I have been thinking about doing the hydro boost swap. Overall was it worth it?
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Re: Third gen on a college kids budget

I had a pretty good size cam in my car and I didn't have enough vacuum for the normal brakes so it helped alot. It might not be as big of a difference if your car has enough vacuum for the normal brakes.
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Today I finished swapping the front brakes over to ls1 brakes. I ordered all the necessary parts from bigbreakupgrade.com and everything work perfect. I can't wait for the weather to get worm so I can try them out. My next upgrade is to install a set of kyb agx struts and a set of caster camper plates.
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Re: Third gen on a college kids budget

May have missed it, but what sorta times did you run with the 327? Nice care btw.
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It ran a flat 9 in the 1/8th. It should have ran faster, the distributor was messed up and the car wan't staying in time.
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Nice car! I love the look! And this 355 look greeeeat in that engine bay!
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I sold my dirt bike today, so by the end of the week I will be making a trip up to Jeg's to buy a snipper nos kit and maybe some drag radials. I can't wait to get the car on the track and see what it will do.
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Today I installed my new rear tires. They are Mickey Thompson ET Street drag radials. They are 295/45R17. I had to do a little work on the fender wells but they fit. I think they look alot better since they fill the fender wells and give the car a little rake. I'll post some pictures here in the next couple days.
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This is my car with the new drag radials. I think it makes the car look a lot better. The tires fill the fender wells now.



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Looks sharp! Makes me want a third gen Lol.
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I made another purchase today!! Now I just have to figure out where to mount it!!

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After I put the nitrous on the car I couldn't use my other air filter so I made this one. I plan on when I go to the track to take the filter off and place the intake tube out of the engine bay so it will get cooler air.





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Re: Third gen on a college kids budget

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After I put the nitrous on the car I couldn't use my other air filter so I made this one. I plan on when I go to the track to take the filter off and place the intake tube out of the engine bay so it will get cooler air.





what is that part from on the carb for the breather tube?
really nice build man!
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The part on the carb is just a low profile Spectra carb hat. I then painted it with wrinkly black paint.
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College kid #5 checking in, car looks badass man! How did the T-5 hold up behind the 327?
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College kid #5 checking in, car looks badass man! How did the T-5 hold up behind the 327?

It didn't. The synchronizers went out. I was launching it on slicks so that may have had something to do with it.
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I know its been awhile since I've posted something about the car, but its getting some new parts. I recently installed a 4th gen rearend with a 4.11 gear. Now I am in the process of installing a T56 out of a 94 Z28. I also have the LT1 out of the Z28, I'm trying to decide what I want to do with it. I'm thinking about maybe turboing the LT1. I'll have pictures of the progress soon!!
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love that interior
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The LT1 is a good engine to work with and you can install a carb and distributor easily, nearly identical heads as the vortec and make very good power. If you have any questions PM me. I am also a college kid. But I have a 408w with a T56 in a '94 Mustang and a LTX T56 third gen that I have had on jack stands for way too long.
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Re: Third gen on a college kids budget

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I know its been awhile since I've posted something about the car, .... I'm thinking about maybe turboing the LT1.
College budget + turbo + Opti-Spark... well....ok.

What are your long range goals for the car - build philosophy(stick to it)? <--This and $$$ is the quickest way to ruin for a lot of folks, you might be the exception. Do you have long term storage/security available post college? Can you take the car with you wherever you go/find employment, or can you leave it behind? Drive it, or dedicated track?
I'm not trying to discourage you, but focus you so you can reach your goals.

What you just stated is BIG. Whole drivetrain upgraded to handle it properly. If you have a plan to go in stages, you'll make it. Takes a big commitment; and one of the joys of life at your age is that you have none of those to limit you.

My suggestion: bare bones LS swap to get going (gives you a foundation and modern computer controls for boost later), replace trans and rear, then turbo, all the while trying to keep the body from rusting away. Some people can just go with performance, but as an original owner, I have pride of appearance or the project would have fizzled ($$$ quality paint), but you have to have a strong body to put all these parts into (track car different). If something happens along the way, LS & turbo, 4L65e/4L80e, and maybe rear-end (depends) can be sold to other enthusiasts - life does happen!
Good Luck in life and with the 3rg Gen!
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What are your long range goals for the car - build philosophy(stick to it)? <--This and $$$ is the quickest way to ruin for a lot of folks, you might be the exception. Do you have long term storage/security available post college? Can you take the car with you wherever you go/find employment, or can you leave it behind? Drive it, or dedicated track?
I'm not trying to discourage you, but focus you so you can reach your goals.


Absoulutely
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What you just stated is BIG. Whole drivetrain upgraded to handle it properly. If you have a plan to go in stages, you'll make it. Takes a big commitment; and one of the joys of life at your age is that you have none of those to limit you.

Again this is a major undertaking in all aspects. Figure a number and triple it if not quadruple it. I have seen it too many times working in my families business before I decided to go to college for Mech. Engineering.

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My suggestion: bare bones LS swap to get going (gives you a foundation and modern computer controls for boost later), replace trans and rear, then turbo, all the while trying to keep the body from rusting away. Some people can just go with performance, but as an original owner, I have pride of appearance or the project would have fizzled ($$$ quality paint), but you have to have a strong body to put all these parts into (track car different). If something happens along the way, LS & turbo, 4L65e/4L80e, and maybe rear-end (depends) can be sold to other enthusiasts - life does happen!
Good Luck in life and with the 3rg Gen!



I am going to agree to disagree about the LS, sure its good for certain applications and yes the LS is good for what it is anytime any boost usually over 10lbs guys have a hard time keeping the head from lifting due to the 10 bolt head design, or if it will be pushed for a certain period of time such as continuous hard driving.

The water passages & flow are both terrible in the LS engines they were originally designed to be reverse cooled, much like the LT1 & LT4 however with Ford releasing their mod motor they were caught behind and had to sacrifice the reverse cooling for an earlier introduction, this usually takes out the number 4 piston due to poor circulation. Also it has quite a few crankcase pressure issues, because of how they are design. The LSx has had numerous revisions ... 20+. The Gen. I has had 3 IIRC. It also took Dart 6 years to fix the problems with the LSx block before they could go into production with their LSnext. If you are dead set on using an LSx look at PBM for their LS block it will use any old short block parts from the Gen. I in the short block and you can bolt the LSx heads on.

The LTx can be built relatively easier and will swap right in. All you need is a SBC intake (just re-drill the head bolt holes and tap them in the head) or the GMPP intake, a carb, and a distributor and you can use all of the engine mounts, trans, headers if NA (plus they are way cheaper for a good set), cross member, acc. bracket etc.

Only difference as mentioned above is that everything needs to be upgraded. The stock parts can be used but only at minimal boost maybe 6-8 lbs and you will have to baby the car.
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After a few months of aggravation my car is now a 6 speed. It runs great, I love driving down the road at 60 mph running about 1700 RPM. I also installed a rearend and rear brakes out of a 94 Z28. I have now graduated college with an engineering degree so hopefully in the next few years the car goes through a nice transformation becoming my ultimate dream car. I'm still going to do everything on a tight budget. I loving trying to make great factory stuff work on an older car. The plan for the rest of the summer is just to drive it and enjoy the car. A few drag strip passes may be in the future.
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