anybody here build ls swap harnesses?
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anybody here build ls swap harnesses?
As the title states, just seeing if anybody on the board builds harneses anymore and what the cost is. If you do this, could you pm me with prices for having this done? Thanks
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When did he stop doing that? I thought he was still building them as of a couple months ago.
It's really not that hard of a process once you get in to it.
It's really not that hard of a process once you get in to it.
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Re: anybody here build ls swap harnesses?
Honestly its not that bad at all. Ive done a couple LS and my LT swap harness. Get a pinout of the PCM and start from scratch. Lots of people are afraid to touch wiring but its pretty simple.
Just remember these for the basics. I always start fresh by un-pinning everything and starting over.
Pinks (ignition on, fused)
Orange (constant, fused)
Blacks (ground)
Grey (sensor 5v to pcm)
I would love to help ya out but with a baby due in the next month and wiring/building a turbo setup for a LS monte so I'm kinda busy.
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Just remember these for the basics. I always start fresh by un-pinning everything and starting over.
Pinks (ignition on, fused)
Orange (constant, fused)
Blacks (ground)
Grey (sensor 5v to pcm)
I would love to help ya out but with a baby due in the next month and wiring/building a turbo setup for a LS monte so I'm kinda busy.
Jay
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Re: anybody here build ls swap harnesses?
Pocket quit doing them a year ago or more. It's not that it scares me to do it myself I'm just short on time. New job doesn't allow me a lot of free time.
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I actually didn't mind building my harness.
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New job doesn't allow me a lot of free time.
Working on switching from reworking used harnesses to 100% brand new plug and play kits this fall
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Re: anybody here build ls swap harnesses?
Also I'm colorblind didn't help me also lol that added alot of time my wiring so had to use my wife eyes to double check for me
When money allows i would like to buy and use new harness or a plug and play one from pocket mines look decent but
would be nice as my harness seen better days before it got in my hands but I'm just nit picking
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Re: anybody here build ls swap harnesses?
Here we go!
LS1 harness in a bag
3rd gen connectors
Main harness connectors
These are neat, turned a pull to seat connector into a strange push to seat. IAT, VSS, TPS and IAC
Bunch of different terminals. This is going to get confusing
PCM terminals. Approx $100 of every LS1 harness out there is right here in terminals. Likely because they're gold plated
The guinea pig: friend's 73 corvette
Waiting on the crimpers and wire to arrive. Going to draw up an assembly board in the mean time
Still cant source a C207 or C221. Might have to salvage those from JY cars. I found part numbers for both, but no one sells them. Oddly enough, the oval relay bodies are discontinued as well. Might have to convert everything to the new bosch square relays
LS1 harness in a bag
3rd gen connectors
Main harness connectors
These are neat, turned a pull to seat connector into a strange push to seat. IAT, VSS, TPS and IAC
Bunch of different terminals. This is going to get confusing
PCM terminals. Approx $100 of every LS1 harness out there is right here in terminals. Likely because they're gold plated
The guinea pig: friend's 73 corvette
Waiting on the crimpers and wire to arrive. Going to draw up an assembly board in the mean time
Still cant source a C207 or C221. Might have to salvage those from JY cars. I found part numbers for both, but no one sells them. Oddly enough, the oval relay bodies are discontinued as well. Might have to convert everything to the new bosch square relays
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Re: anybody here build ls swap harnesses?
keep us posted, might wanna do an LS swap in one of my cars one day
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Hi Pocket it's 87Oldschool in Jamestown,NC, we never did get to lunch after your Phoenix trip...
I am trying to figure out if you are or not doing the harness? I am still planning on doing my swap and there is no one, no where else I would rather do my harness! My car (bought new)was a factory 305TPT/ T-5. that lasted three months than a mild 355 for a year and finally a stroker 388. I am planning a 6.0/T-56 setup. Could you do my harness and how much. I should be ready on the next 60 days,
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I am trying to figure out if you are or not doing the harness? I am still planning on doing my swap and there is no one, no where else I would rather do my harness! My car (bought new)was a factory 305TPT/ T-5. that lasted three months than a mild 355 for a year and finally a stroker 388. I am planning a 6.0/T-56 setup. Could you do my harness and how much. I should be ready on the next 60 days,
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The end goal is plug and play harnesses for 3rd gens, then branching to other platforms
Also going to be making modular fuseblocks for people using the stock 4th gen harnesses
Also going to be making modular fuseblocks for people using the stock 4th gen harnesses
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You think that's confusing you should try an aircraft engineering mod on an airliner. I work as an avionics mechanic for a major airline. Now that is confusing. I can't wait to get into my LS upgrade, but money is a limiting factor right now. I'm used to working with mega wiring prints and hundreds of wires that are not color coded but numerically marked every few inches. Wiring is not difficult but paying attention to detail is a must. Good prints and correct pin-outs to the correct circuit and connector type are paramount. A good multimeter, wire stripper, and other wiring tools help a lot. A well-lit place to work is necessary.
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Re: anybody here build ls swap harnesses?
First one is done. Who wants one?
Comes complete, c100 to c207, hvac, all engine controls. Any 85-92 EFI car. Haven't nailed down a fuseblock for the older cars yet
Comes complete, c100 to c207, hvac, all engine controls. Any 85-92 EFI car. Haven't nailed down a fuseblock for the older cars yet
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Going to start at $625 for a standard build. AC, emissions, stock routing 7' extension, fuseblock for carb cars will be a few bucks more
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Re: anybody here build ls swap harnesses?
I just buy the harnesses new and outright now. for swaps. I don't have the time to fiddle with wiring. eats up too much of my time.
do you build ms harnesses also?
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3 or 5 wire MAF, SD whatever you need
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I'm not familiar with megasquirt. If you're doing multiple with the same PCM and pinout, shoot me a PM. One-off stuff is difficult to work with
I can do simple stand alone harnesses for older vehicles as well
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Damn if this was like a month or two sooner I totally would have been your first customer. Good idea to build completely new harnesses...definitely where the money is right now. Very nice competitive price for a complete plug and play harness with A/C and everything.
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Dude this is a great deal. If you are still making them when I am ready to do my Z I will contact you.
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Wow that is a great price for a new harness, I will have to keep you in mind when Im at that point .
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Tpi parts in cape coral florida rebuilt my harness for my 85. He is on ebay he really knows his stuff and is pretty passionate about what he does. I'd contact him.
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Really glad to see you back in business Pocket. I am definitely interested in a harness. I spoke to you before about one for a bare bones race car. No air . I need to get started on my build. The wiring was scaring me away. Your price is just right.
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are you doing anything similar for TPI->LT1 working on the swap and havent touched my harnesses, texas heat and the military dont allow much tinkering time
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I'll move to lt1 shortly, but for now I'm only doing genIII LSx
Had several requests for 24x lt1
Had several requests for 24x lt1
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Hi Jon it's Carl, 87Oldschool in Jamestown. Sorry we have not connected yet I have been traveling a lot for work. Any chance we can connect this week, maybe see what you have and grab some lunch? This week I am in town all week. I am still looking at options for the Camaro but I will tell you now I want you to do whatever harness I need!
Thanks Carl
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For those interested, here's harness #1 installed in the 73 Stingray
Basic overview
Rear of the intake where harnesses are always messy
Fuseblock and PCM hidden down low. Wish thirdgens has this much room under the hood
Basic overview
Rear of the intake where harnesses are always messy
Fuseblock and PCM hidden down low. Wish thirdgens has this much room under the hood
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looks good pocket!
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Just to add my two cents.... I had lunch with Pocket on Friday and saw this harness in the box prior to install. He does amazingly clean and professional work. Starting with a purpose built harness specifically for your needs to me is the only way to go. I am the original owner of an 87 IROC so my harness is a virgin.... Many of TGO owners have bought used cars and don't know "where their cars have been..." You can certainly modify your original harness but you most likely spend as much for one of Pockets brand new harness. As I said, this is my two cents for what its worth. I am not quite ready but Pocket will build my new harness once I decide which direction I go.
FYI.... I also got to ride in his bad *** green machine it pulls like a freight train!
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FYI.... I also got to ride in his bad *** green machine it pulls like a freight train!
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What fuse/relay panel is that?
I already have my set up ready to go pretty much and I'm hiding my block under the passenger hush panel area, so it's too late for me, but someone else may be interested in the future.
I already have my set up ready to go pretty much and I'm hiding my block under the passenger hush panel area, so it's too late for me, but someone else may be interested in the future.
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Dorman fuseblock (2) and ebay relay body/sockets. Same one Ive used for years, simple, inexpensive, modular and no special parts
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Pocket,
I'm looking to build 2 tpi harness for projects I'm doing. Where do I find the length of wires, or do I just order a certain number of feet of every wire color that is needed. Any info would be helpful.
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I'm looking to build 2 tpi harness for projects I'm doing. Where do I find the length of wires, or do I just order a certain number of feet of every wire color that is needed. Any info would be helpful.
Thanks,
Mike
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Most suppliers have a minimum order for colored wire, esp striped jackets. Multiply that by the number of colors Delphi used, and its a pretty steep buy-in for just two harnesses
If you can find a shop that sells short lengths of wire then itll be at an inflated price
What part of NC are you in? I might be able to help if youre semi-local
If you can find a shop that sells short lengths of wire then itll be at an inflated price
What part of NC are you in? I might be able to help if youre semi-local
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You're money ahead to let Pocket build it for you, great quality and probably much better value than doing it your self. Plus great after sale advice as needed. BTW Jon still not done getting that 6.0 in my '92 Z, so much to do around the house, gotta have priorities huh.
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