Interior Discussion about interior restoration, repairs, and modifications.

Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-12-2009, 05:47 PM
  #1  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
ghettocruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 3,685
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Car: 86 Trans AM
Engine: LS1 (not stock...)
Transmission: Built T56
Axle/Gears: Strange 12-bolt w/ 3.73
Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Hey guys... I took the overhead console out of my 87 and installed it into my 86...finally. I also put the mirror from the 87, which is a 4th gen mirror, into the 86. Since my headliner needs to be re-covered, I figured now would be a good time to cut the openings.

I figured Ide post pictures....mainly because Im bored haha. I ran into some wiring confusion...and the diagrams didnt help, and search didnt really help. So maybe this will help someone out.

First, the guide in the tech section is great...for mounting the console. Which I feel is the hardest part. It was a tad lacking in the wiring aspect though. The suggestion for using the ground screw to "thread" the mounting holes was a great suggestion. Worked perfect.

I made a template and made my cuts according to the tech article. The cuts in the template dont have to be to engineering standards... My headliner needs to be recovered, so I wasnt worried about wrinkles or things of that nature. Ill fix it when I re-cover.

Name:  S6003584.jpg
Views: 620
Size:  129.4 KB

Name:  S6003586.jpg
Views: 582
Size:  103.5 KB

Name:  S6003587.jpg
Views: 662
Size:  121.2 KB

Name:  S6003588.jpg
Views: 584
Size:  83.4 KB

Name:  S6003589.jpg
Views: 594
Size:  140.5 KB

Cont...

Last edited by ghettocruiser; 07-12-2009 at 05:57 PM.
Old 07-12-2009, 05:49 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
ghettocruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 3,685
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Car: 86 Trans AM
Engine: LS1 (not stock...)
Transmission: Built T56
Axle/Gears: Strange 12-bolt w/ 3.73
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Old light removed.
Name:  S6003590.jpg
Views: 592
Size:  119.4 KB

Name:  S6003591.jpg
Views: 554
Size:  114.5 KB

Name:  S6003592.jpg
Views: 563
Size:  117.7 KB

Name:  S6003593.jpg
Views: 563
Size:  152.9 KB

Name:  S6003594.jpg
Views: 563
Size:  116.1 KB

Cont...
Old 07-12-2009, 05:55 PM
  #3  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
ghettocruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 3,685
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Car: 86 Trans AM
Engine: LS1 (not stock...)
Transmission: Built T56
Axle/Gears: Strange 12-bolt w/ 3.73
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Wiring.

My 86 had two wires for the dome light. Both white. No stripe, no marks or anything. And the way it wired up, wasnt how I would have assumed. With the doors shut and the lights off...one of the white wires will have 12v. The other, nothing. So...my common sense said this must be the orange hook up. Wrong. When you turn the lights on, the +12v switches to the other wire, and it confused the heck out of me.

So, the way I wired it was: With everything off, the wire with 12v gets hooked to the WHITE wire on the overhead console harness. The other white wire, goes to the orange wire in the console harness. And then you ground the black wire up in the roof bracing. There was no ground screw up there....I used the one from my 87.

My test connections.

Name:  S6003600.jpg
Views: 625
Size:  128.8 KB

Everything works as it should.

Name:  S6003601.jpg
Views: 604
Size:  128.0 KB

These mirror lights come on with all the other interior lights, or you can switch them on independently whenever you want.

Name:  S6003602.jpg
Views: 584
Size:  85.3 KB

Thats it. It was pretty easy. Cutting the headliner was a mess...my foam backing was nothing but dust. Im going to replace the pocket with a new one, and Im toying with the idea of replacing all of the bulbs with custom LED clusters so the interior lighting is super bright. We'll see...time and money always dictate the small projects like that.

J.

Last edited by ghettocruiser; 07-12-2009 at 06:00 PM.
Old 07-12-2009, 09:02 PM
  #4  
Member
 
nemoose5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 RS
Engine: 305
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Looks good!
Old 07-12-2009, 09:57 PM
  #5  
Supreme Member
iTrader: (21)
 
82 Iron Duke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,075
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 04 Silverado
Engine: 4.8
Transmission: auto
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Great write up, thanks for sharing
Old 07-13-2009, 03:36 AM
  #6  
Member

 
VAN454's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 330
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 88 GTA
Engine: Ls1
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 3.27
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Nice work, what sort of price do the overhead consoles bring? I wouldn't mind one for my GTA
Old 07-13-2009, 10:34 AM
  #7  
Former Sponsor
 
1Aauto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Westford, MA
Posts: 3,726
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

That does look good,nice job.
Old 07-13-2009, 12:38 PM
  #8  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
ghettocruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 3,685
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Car: 86 Trans AM
Engine: LS1 (not stock...)
Transmission: Built T56
Axle/Gears: Strange 12-bolt w/ 3.73
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Thanks guys. The console was original in my 87...and I always sort of liked them. I did enjoy the clean headliner look without it too, but since I wanted to wire in the mirror lights and all, why not. Plus the little "Firebird" flashlight is just plain neat.

As much as Ide like to keep it nice and original, part of me wants to knock out those little event wheels and put something useful in there. Ide like to retro fit a temp/compass display in there maybe.

Now I just need to gather up the supplies to re-do the headliner.
Old 07-14-2009, 10:12 PM
  #9  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Stevolwevol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,697
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 IROC Z, 92 RS
Engine: 305 4bbl, 305 TBI
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

I need to remove my council cuz i am gonna reapolster my t top headliner. How do ya get it out?
Old 07-15-2009, 06:47 AM
  #10  
Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
JamesC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Lawrence, KS
Posts: 19,282
Received 93 Likes on 68 Posts
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Originally Posted by Stevolwevol
I need to remove my council cuz i am gonna reapolster my t top headliner. How do ya get it out?
Coupe, remove the screws in the dome light housing, then pull the console toward the you.

T-top, remove the screws..., then push the console toward the windshield.

Remove wiring at the connector.

Van454,

I wouldn't consider an overhead unless it's complete. Missing parts can be difficult to find.

JamesC
Old 07-15-2009, 08:45 AM
  #11  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Stevolwevol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,697
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 IROC Z, 92 RS
Engine: 305 4bbl, 305 TBI
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

The only thing missing is the flashlight. I will go and remove it
Old 07-15-2009, 11:29 AM
  #12  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
ghettocruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 3,685
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Car: 86 Trans AM
Engine: LS1 (not stock...)
Transmission: Built T56
Axle/Gears: Strange 12-bolt w/ 3.73
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Haha thats the best part.....

Ive seen them pop up here and there. Im just glad mine is in one piece and work. I dont leave a battery in it though because it just corrodes and screws up the contacts...but its nice to know it'd work if I wanted haha.

J.
Old 07-15-2009, 03:39 PM
  #13  
Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
JamesC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Lawrence, KS
Posts: 19,282
Received 93 Likes on 68 Posts
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Originally Posted by ghettocruiser
I dont leave a battery in it though because it just corrodes and screws up the contacts...
Use some dialectic grease on the contacts and they'll be good to go.

JamesC
Old 07-15-2009, 04:29 PM
  #14  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
MY87LT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,685
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Car: 1987 Camaro LT
Engine: LG4 w/ SLP headers & a 3" catback
Transmission: THM700R4 (Stock)
Axle/Gears: Stock 2.73 gears. No Posi
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

The flashlight in my console decided to crap out on me one day. So I took it apart and cleaned all the connectors with my dremmel tool and brush then put in a bulb i picked up at Radio Shack. Works great now.
Old 07-15-2009, 05:50 PM
  #15  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
ghettocruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: PA
Posts: 3,685
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Car: 86 Trans AM
Engine: LS1 (not stock...)
Transmission: Built T56
Axle/Gears: Strange 12-bolt w/ 3.73
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Yeah thats what I did.

I didnt think about putting some dielectric grease on it though...Im gonna give that a try. Good call!

J.
Old 07-15-2009, 06:03 PM
  #16  
Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
JamesC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Lawrence, KS
Posts: 19,282
Received 93 Likes on 68 Posts
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Originally Posted by ghettocruiser
Yeah thats what I did.

I didnt think about putting some dielectric grease on it though...Im gonna give that a try.
I applied some several years ago, and as of an hour or so ago, the flashlight still works.

JamesC
Old 07-15-2009, 06:38 PM
  #17  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Stevolwevol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,697
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 IROC Z, 92 RS
Engine: 305 4bbl, 305 TBI
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Yeah Ha Ha! I'm not too broken up about the flashlight. I can probably buy one, but not worth it. It doesn't seem as though anything is missing anyway. It would probably fall on my head after a quick stop.
Old 07-15-2009, 06:43 PM
  #18  
Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
JamesC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Lawrence, KS
Posts: 19,282
Received 93 Likes on 68 Posts
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Originally Posted by Stevolwevol
Yeah Ha Ha! I'm not too broken up about the flashlight. I can probably buy one, but not worth it. It doesn't seem as though anything is missing anyway. It would probably fall on my head after a quick stop.
The gaping hole would trouble me (yes, I'm **** about such matters). Check the following link for a possible fix:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...-continue.html

JamesC
Old 07-15-2009, 07:08 PM
  #19  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Stevolwevol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,697
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 IROC Z, 92 RS
Engine: 305 4bbl, 305 TBI
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

And I thought it was an overhead vent...lol, What would be a reasonable price for one that works, and one that doesn't??
Old 07-15-2009, 09:08 PM
  #20  
Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
JamesC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Lawrence, KS
Posts: 19,282
Received 93 Likes on 68 Posts
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Originally Posted by Stevolwevol
And I thought it was an overhead vent...lol, What would be a reasonable price for one that works, and one that doesn't??
Most work with a bit of clean up as the internals are seldom messed with. The clip and/or clips that hold the two pieces of the flashlight together are sometimes broken. I sold one with that problem for $17.50 shipped. I sold one that was near mint for $45, IIRC.

JamesC
Old 07-15-2009, 09:25 PM
  #21  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Stevolwevol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,697
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: 86 IROC Z, 92 RS
Engine: 305 4bbl, 305 TBI
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

do you have any more to sell?
Old 07-16-2009, 06:56 AM
  #22  
Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
JamesC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Lawrence, KS
Posts: 19,282
Received 93 Likes on 68 Posts
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Originally Posted by Stevolwevol
do you have any more to sell?
Sorry, no.

JamesC
Old 07-16-2009, 02:46 PM
  #23  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (2)
 
MY87LT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,685
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Car: 1987 Camaro LT
Engine: LG4 w/ SLP headers & a 3" catback
Transmission: THM700R4 (Stock)
Axle/Gears: Stock 2.73 gears. No Posi
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

They pop up on Ebay from time to time. That's how I got mine. There's one there now for about 34 bucks but it says CAMARO instead of FIREBIRD

Last edited by MY87LT; 07-16-2009 at 04:44 PM.
Old 09-20-2021, 11:25 PM
  #24  
Junior Member
 
THTHREAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 firebird
Engine: 305 tbi
Transmission: STANDARD( REBUILT)
Axle/Gears: N/A
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Originally Posted by ghettocruiser
Wiring.

My 86 had two wires for the dome light. Both white. No stripe, no marks or anything. And the way it wired up, wasnt how I would have assumed. With the doors shut and the lights off...one of the white wires will have 12v. The other, nothing. So...my common sense said this must be the orange hook up. Wrong. When you turn the lights on, the +12v switches to the other wire, and it confused the heck out of me.

So, the way I wired it was: With everything off, the wire with 12v gets hooked to the WHITE wire on the overhead console harness. The other white wire, goes to the orange wire in the console harness. And then you ground the black wire up in the roof bracing. There was no ground screw up there....I used the one from my 87.

My test connections.

Attachment 429261

Everything works as it should.

Attachment 429262

These mirror lights come on with all the other interior lights, or you can switch them on independently whenever you want.

Attachment 429263

Thats it. It was pretty easy. Cutting the headliner was a mess...my foam backing was nothing but dust. Im going to replace the pocket with a new one, and Im toying with the idea of replacing all of the bulbs with custom LED clusters so the interior lighting is super bright. We'll see...time and money always dictate the small projects like that.

J.
I Cant find these bolts anywhere. How long would you say it is from the spacer once drilled in 1/2 inchIm thinking im gonn have to use a screw And spacer from the hardware store
Old 07-03-2023, 07:26 PM
  #25  
Junior Member
 
awsum10@shaw.ca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Originally Posted by ghettocruiser
Thanks guys. The console was original in my 87...and I always sort of liked them. I did enjoy the clean headliner look without it too, but since I wanted to wire in the mirror lights and all, why not. Plus the little "Firebird" flashlight is just plain neat.

As much as Ide like to keep it nice and original, part of me wants to knock out those little event wheels and put something useful in there. Ide like to retro fit a temp/compass display in there maybe.

Now I just need to gather up the supplies to re-do the headliner.



Removed rollers and installed display for reverse parking sensor perfect place to mount as it is easy to view above rearview mirror when backing up
The following users liked this post:
DynoDave43 (07-05-2023)
Old 07-05-2023, 07:54 PM
  #26  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (11)
 
DynoDave43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: MICHIGAN
Posts: 4,645
Received 757 Likes on 582 Posts
Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: L03
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 2.73 Open
Re: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.

Very nice!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
1992 Trans Am
History / Originality
27
05-10-2023 07:19 PM
Jorlain
Interior
12
08-24-2022 05:11 PM
specialized
TPI
27
06-18-2022 09:26 AM
Casey Meyers
Interior Parts for Sale
8
03-02-2016 10:46 AM
TheJoeY88
Interior
5
08-13-2015 06:51 PM



Quick Reply: Overhead console install. Wiring info and pics, etc.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:48 AM.