shiftman

I haven't posted in a while. Hello to John and Mark who have helped me in the past.

The 1988 Camaro 1LE. Four units.

Question #1:
Two LB9 and two L98?

Q #2:
Assuming two and two from Q#1: Of the two 1988 1LE LB9, was one an automatic?

Q #3:
Did 1988 1LE SPIDs indicate JG1, N64, and QDZ? (If not QDZ, was QLC indicated?)

All for now. Thanx for your help. Best,

Robert

topduarte

iTrader: (8)

Dont know those answers but one is in New Mexico.

scottmoyer

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shiftman

Scott,
Great information, thank you.
For some reason, I incorrectly assumed that there were two 1988 1LEs with the LB9. Thanks for clearing that up.
So, that leads to this:
To the best of your knowledge, did all four 1988 1LEs have the L98 engine?
Thanks again.

scottmoyer

I thought I remember hearing that 1 of them was the LB9, but I have no documented evidence of that claim, so I can't assume anything.

shiftman

Understood. Thank you, Scott.

JT

iTrader: (1)

Scott, I assume we got no closer in finding information on the 1LE we call number 4, after getting information on the other 3? I know we got information from a member that said they had build sheets for all 4, and the Trans Ams, but turned out to have a duplicate copy on one of them. So the 4th one is still missing.

scottmoyer

No new updates. Still just 3 documented.

881SA

The guy who posted pictures of two of the four hasn't been on this site for a few years now. Is there anyway of tracking all the 88's that were customed ordered per John Heinricy's scheming codes 1AZ/C41/G92/Z28? I've only seen three build sheets for 88's with that combination of codes prior to the actual 1LE on the RPO tag and all build sheets for 1LE's later than 89 note AC Delete on the sheet which is not noted on the three 88's I've seen.

98_1LE

I ran 1LE.net long ago. A gentleman named Bruce McNutt claimed to have an 88 Camaro a 1LE, 305/5-speed. Unfortunately I never got a picture of the SPI label. It was claimed to be a players challenge car. I have his email from back then and tried sending email, but it bounced back.

shiftman

Thank you, 98_1LE,

Interesting information.

In 1988, none of the 71 units of RPO A4U Player's Camaros were coded 1LE. They were all LB9+MK6 and all were coded RPO Z49 Canadian delivery.

If Mr. McNutt's SPID label was coded 1LE (and I'm not saying that it wasn't), it could not have been coded RPO Z49 (Canadian delivery) because 1988 Canadian VIN records do not indicate any RPO 1LE Camaros. It follows that the car would not have been a Player's car, as all Player's car were coded Z49. (Pontiac records indicate one 1LE Trans AM, but it is not known if that car was a Player's car.)

It is possible of course, that he did have a 1LE car and was told an incorrect story about its history.

Or, it is possible that none of us realize that Chevy built one 1988 Player's car that was coded 1LE, and was not coded A4U or Z49.

So, we're still at the starting blocks. As you lamented, SPIDs are the support we need.

Thanks again. Everything helps.

881SA

A build sheet works well too, not sure that anyone's made mention of this already but Camaro's are no longer in production:
December 7, 2023
The report that Chevy would kill the Camaro early came from Road & Track, which reported that the final convertible was built back on November 22, and that the coupe's final production day had been moved up from January 2024. Specifically, it was to be built today; December 7, 2023, a date that would live in infamy.Dec 7, 2023

And the last Camaro built was a 1LE, wonder what that one will sell for?

98_1LE

shiftman

I guess the odds are it wasn’t a real 1LE. Thanks for the info.

I just checked my 98, which was a Canadian car, and it has Z49. Your knowledge is impressive.

Edit: I have a backup of 1LE.net. While I suspect/know a good number of the submissions aren’t actual 1LE cars, there are a good number of SPI label pics. I shared the data with a guy putting together a list of fourthgen 1LE VINs. If someone is doing the same for thirdgens, I would share what I have from 20+ years ago.

Mark_ZZ3

I have never checked if any of the 1988 players cars had 1LE. I will give it a look. That would be quite a surprise. Ill say 99% that none were 1LE.

Mark.