chazman

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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19..._knNvQfAcidVHw

ksr

Wow. Great car, but kind of a crazy price.

I wonder if the seller is just a passionate car guy with money to burn, who bought what he liked? Or someone who thinks he's picking up an investment that will only increase in value?

dmccain

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WOW! Don't see him ever getting a return on that investment honestly but what an awesome car.

LeonardS

If I was spending $60,000, it would be a new ZL-1, 1LE in my garage, not this 87 IROC🤓🤓

gt4373

chazman

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I love 3rd gens as much as the next guy - actually more. But there is no chance I'd ever spend that much on one.

ray jr

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the yellow 87 with 1800 miles just sold for 40,000 .. this guy must have really wanted that car ..

topduarte

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That is crazy money.

dagwood

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WOWSERS. It wasn't just the buyer that wanted it that bad....someone had to bid against him.

It makes me wonder what happened to the 344 mile, world record selling, clay bar residue, repaint queen? That car sold, what, 2 years ago for like $34k. Far from a record holder, now!

Che70velle

In the early 90’s, I remember looking at a 70’ Chevelle for $1500 and saying to myself…”man, I should buy this. These things might gain value and be worth something one day.” It was a pretty nice Chevelle that needed very little to be a really nice car. I had a fiend who had just paid like $7k for a crazy nice 69’ camaro, and I was thinking that the Chevelle might be close to the camaro money one day. Now this was pretty near 30 years ago, and nobody thought that these muscle cars would bring 6 figures one day. I didn’t buy it. Another friend did…not the camaro guy…and unloaded it in 2009 for $30k, with just a paint job, an engine change, and some detailing. Prolly worth $60k today.
Why am I talking about muscle cars on TGDO? My point here is that one day our third gens will bring crazy money for the nice ones. All of you guys saying that you’d never pay that in this thread…i don’t think we’ve seen anything yet price wise. I’ve heard more than one high end car builder say that the third gens will be the next 69’ for popularity. Popularity brings crazy prices.
We are watching the trend in pricing grow upward slowly with the 3rd gens, and it will continue climbing.

dagwood

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I agree 100%. And, for kicks, sometimes I will go to ebay and search for 1969 Camaro, and then IROC Camaro. There are usually twice as many 1969's listed for sale than all IROC-Z years combined. I think we are in for a continuing climb, as well.

Saxondale

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Ugh. Such junky cars. I know. I’ve owned two. Why??! I suppose because it will never be driven, which is when the build quality shows.

Richard Rawlings said it best, and I’ll never forget, “The Bic lighter of cars.”

scottmoyer

The 2nd owner and the most recent seller were both members of TGO. The 2nd owner had the car at 239 miles. The most recent seller bought the car from Matt Garrett.

88IROCvertZ

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I’m surprised it went for more than the 300 mile one especially with the ding in the roof and the 134A conversion...

I suppose it really is the odometer that matters above all to get these prices... A nicer car with 20k miles would have a tough time getting to $40k...

I’d never pay it but I’d also never pay the crazy prices for first Gens people pay... doesn’t mean it’s not reality...

Congrats to the seller for having a record sale price... I’m sure this record will be beat by the end of the year too...

Maybe the buyer was interested in driving it and bid up to have one that had new tires, 134A and has been serviced to enjoy... In that case cheers to the buyer!

Just took mine on an awesome coastal drive and can’t imagine paying crazy money just to put the car in a bubble and not even be able to see the paint glow in a sunset while waves crash and people yell “Sweet IROC” as they drive by...

ksr

The "Bic lighter of cars?" Disposable?

Doesn't really account for the fact that we're all driving them, 29+ years after they left the factory. And many of them, like mine, are virtually all-original.

dmccain

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Buying a car like that and never driving it I will never understand. Be like marrying a beautiful woman and only looking at her over the years.. Not me I enjoy everything I own!

ksr

I agree. Of course an owner can do what they want with their car. I know people who are content just being owners of older and new cars. They look at them, keep them spotless. I could never do that.

88IROCvertZ

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Yeah, All old cars are pretty jangly if they are all original even if meticulously maintained...

I’ve had plenty of guys with spotless, mint carbureted cars say, “At least you have modern suspension/ride and fuel injection!”

It seems like the TPI cars can be pretty reliable if you keep them up properly... once they get hack job/McGyver repairs and “upgrades” though, good luck...

Agent13

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Like I care what some overblown TV personality's narrative is. I highly doubt the 1st, 2nd, and 4th gens and many other "revered" cars had any higher build quality. They sure as hell aren't any sexier either. Glad to see the third generation finally receiving the respect it deserves.

ksr

By the time I bought my first 3rd gen, a new '90, Consumer Reports rated them as "average" in reliability. High praise from that magazine, which frankly at that point I thought was worthless when it came to reviewing anything other than an appliance-like car like a Camry. Their reviews of cars like 3rd gens would say, and I'm paraphrasing here but they actually used these words in some way: "too low, too loud, back seat too small." Well yeah, some of that is why I bought it. Prior to about 1990, their reliability rankings for 3rd gens (those columns of circles filled in or half filled in in red (good) or black (bad) were very poor.

I shouldn't say this because I'll go to my garage today and both my GTA and my '19 ATS Coupe will cough up a transmission or something. But I've always had great luck with my cars. I've owned 16, all American brands (14 GM, two Chrysler Corp). I've never had a car fail to start, break down, or strand me. I've never had nagging issues that force me to bring the car back to dealers multiple times. I've really had almost no issues at all with my car over the years, other than just some stuff wearing out. Really the only things I've ever had to go to dealer for were recalls, none of which ever kept me from being able to use my car.

So when people complain about American cars, I've never been able to relate to them at all because it just hasn't been my experience. And of my 16 cars, most of them were not cars recommended by publications like Consumer Reports. They've been nothing but reliable for me. I think there has always been a bit of a herd mentality with CR. People will experience the same problem with two cars, one a Chevy, one a Toyota. They'll give the Toyota a pass because from everything they've heard, Toyotas are great cars and theirs must be an anomaly. Same problem in the Chevy and, "Wow this American car is a POS!!! I'll never buy again!!!"

American cars had some rough times, and the '80s when our cars were largely built, was the epicenter of that. But even then, the reality wasn't as bad as the reputation. And that reputation of '80s cars grows worse with each retelling, more of that herd mentality. I've heard people talk or write about how bad cars were from this era who weren't even born at that time and have no firsthand experience with them.

88IROCvertZ

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Old cars aren’t “nice” by modern standards

...they’re cool... big difference

80s cars weren’t built to last forever but neither were 60s-70s cars and they still aren’t...

Its hip to talk crap about 80s cars and Richard likes to be hip...

I’m still annoyed how he teased they got an IROC into the shop and were going to do a build but then they just sold it as is... People on social media seemed to really be excited about the IROC...

chazman

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Exactly. Richard sold that IROC before he could hack it up, thankfully.

Old cars have to be accepted for what they are. If you can't handle the fact that a 30-40 year old car, drives differently, requires more care, etc., you are in the wrong hobby and should just do 3 year leases of whatever is new.

A lot of people like to portray themselves as being part of the old car hobby but are merely posers. It's hard to explain, but when I get an old car sorted, (well mostly), and am able to take that first 50 mile drive without issue - or at least make it back home under it's own power , I feel like I've accomplished something.

88IROCvertZ

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I am just happy 30 year old stuff still works or if I can find a part that they don’t make anymore after months of searching...

Two things that don’t seem to drive prices with old cars that people can’t seem to wrap their heads around is how well made the car was and how much power it has doesn’t really seem to always drive price. Demand can come from so many different things.

There’s always people getting frustrated trying to understand why people want something more than something else... “coolness” can defy logic.

ksr

In the big Firebird product information brochure that Pontiac sent me when I bought my '98 TA convertible, it said, "If you have to ask why, you'll never understand." Yep.

Carlos89

This is the truth right here. Last month I took my 86 TA along with my buddy and his 87 Fiero GT and we drove 240 miles round trip and when we got back, we were just as proud both our cars made it back as we were relieved they made it back. And it was worth every dime and ounce of sweat put into our cars.