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Old 11-27-2017, 11:30 AM
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ALERT: 1983 MSE at Salvage Auction

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1983 Trans Am with MSE package

VIN # 1G2AW8775DL225611

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VIN 7 should be a Crossfire but that looks like a carb to me. Would they have changed it at MSE?
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VIN 7 should be a Crossfire but that looks like a carb to me. Would they have changed it at MSE?
Correct the factory engines were removed @ Mecham in Arizona when delivered from the Van Nuys factory. And as you can also see it's a manual trans and you could NOT order a LU5 Crossfire car with a manual trans from GM for some reason ??


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Man I would LOVE to save that car. I had an 84 MR MSE about 12 years ago. Black over silver “war paint”, 350/automatic. Dennis Mecham lives about 15 minutes from me. Super nice guy. I still have the complete NOS decal set I got from him.
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Yea but that air cleaner signals the L69 engine so it would be a bit better than the crossfire.
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Yea but that air cleaner signals the L69 engine so it would be a bit better than the crossfire.
That air cleaner was used on 1982-1984 LG4s AND L69s. I’ve heard the very early production 82 LG4s used a flat good and standard air cleaner, but I’ve owned multiple LG4 cars in addition to L69 cars that had the factory air induction unit
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You are totally correct and I just searched (which I should have done in the first place) and found the info here: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...-trans-am.html
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That air cleaner was used on 1982-1984 LG4s AND L69s. I’ve heard the very early production 82 LG4s used a flat good and standard air cleaner, but I’ve owned multiple LG4 cars in addition to L69 cars that had the factory air induction unit

Sorry that's Misinformation on "early Production" cars

For 1982 Firebird line:

1982 Trans am with LG4/LU5 with WS6/WS7 PKG received the functional cowl induction hood by default.

1982 Trans am with the LG4 ordered WITHOUT WS6/7 suspension received the 14" N89 KITT wheels and base firebird "Flat" hood and sealed air cleaner lid


This was for 1982 only. In 1983 ALL trans am's received the cowl induction hood regardless of what V8 and suspension it had

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Originally Posted by jkris53406
VIN 7 should be a Crossfire but that looks like a carb to me. Would they have changed it at MSE?
The VIN Code for the Crossfire in 1983 was "S".

The VIN Code for the L69 in 1983 was "7".
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Originally Posted by simo
The VIN Code for the Crossfire in 1983 was "S".

The VIN Code for the L69 in 1983 was "7".

Craps, Can't believe I missed that !! I'm use to "7" for the crossfire on 1982 VIN's lol


So the L69/Manual trans combo makes more sense now lol


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1982 Trans am with the LG4 ordered WITHOUT WS6/7 suspension received the 14" N89 KITT wheels and base firebird "Flat" hood and sealed air cleaner lid
I had no idea! If they werent equipped with WS6/7, were they equipped with just the standard Firebird suspenson (base/SE)? Thats interesting. I always thought the Trans Ams were always equuipped with WS6 or WS7 as standard equipment. Man Im learning more every day, lol!
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That chart is incorrect:

1982 Trans am with "H" LG4 with WS6/ WS7 suspension had the functional hood and open air cleaner lid

Have had a few '82 T/A LG4 with the performance suspension come pass my hands and they ALL had that induction setup !!

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Wow that is just sad, looks pretty intact as for the MSE goodies, interior and exterior wise. Hope someone saves her!
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Originally Posted by 3rdgenparts
That chart is incorrect:

1982 Trans am with "H" LG4 with WS6/ WS7 suspension had the functional hood and open air cleaner lid

Have had a few '82 T/A LG4 with the performance suspension come pass my hands and they ALL had that induction setup !!

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Dave, you got the hood 1982 with the WS*, but didn't function with the LG4 in 1982, only the Crossfire had the functional hood.

Can you show me a 1982 with a functioning hood, that is not modified, I have never seen one, other than on a CFI car.
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Dave, you got the hood 1982 with the WS*, but didn't function with the LG4 in 1982, only the Crossfire had the functional hood.

Can you show me a 1982 with a functioning hood, that is not modified, I have never seen one, other than on a CFI car.

Been YEARS since I had a 1982 T/A LG4 car, Most 82's I have pick up for parts recent years have been the LU5 cars, Like I mentioned I have parted out several '82 T/A's with LG4/WS performance and they ALL had the functional hood and open air cleaner, Didn't think it was a big deal to me with those options just another "parts car" it was stripped and crushed I do believe I still have a few of the air induction units that attach under hood and its a circle opening, NOT oval like on the LU5 cars


But IIRC last one was a


1982 Trans am
LG4 "H" code on VIN
Super T-10 4 Speed
WS6
Functional bulge hood with air induction unit

Car was sitting for YEARS on a hill in Missouri unmolested when I picked it up. I remember it was REALLY molding and mildew lol


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P.S And I think your the guy from Washington who "stole" that CLEAN LOW mileage black and gold 82 T/A T-top car from Iowa years ago ??. Was about to fly up pick it up, But dealer said it was sold to someone out west coast
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Been YEARS since I had a 1982 T/A LG4 car, Most 82's I have pick up for parts recent years have been the LU5 cars, Like I mentioned I have parted out several '82 T/A's with LG4/WS performance and they ALL had the functional hood and open air cleaner, Didn't think it was a big deal to me with those options just another "parts car" it was stripped and crushed I do believe I still have a few of the air induction units that attach under hood and its a circle opening, NOT oval like on the LU5 cars


But IIRC last one was a


1982 Trans am
LG4 "H" code on VIN
Super T-10 4 Speed
WS6
Functional bulge hood with air induction unit

Car was sitting for YEARS on a hill in Missouri unmolested when I picked it up. I remember it was REALLY molding and mildew lol


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P.S And I think your the guy from Washington who "stole" that CLEAN LOW mileage black and gold 82 T/A T-top car from Iowa years ago ??. Was about to fly up pick it up, But dealer said it was sold to someone out west coast
Dang it, I would like to find an optioned LG4 WS* with T-Tops and the luxury trim group.

Yes, that is me, I still have it, I think it has 41k miles now, it was not perfect, I mean it was a very good deal, it has a few rust spots under the hood by the latch, witch is odd, and the drivers door has been repainted, also, the drivers mirror was broken, the cable had snapped. But it is in very good shape for its age. I fixed the mirror, and some other minor stuff, also ended up replacing the fuel pump and the intake gaskets. It runs good, no crossfire stumbles or crappy idle etc.
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This car was supposed to be auctioned today. Anyone know what it went for? I was interested but the listing said CA buyers only.
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This car was supposed to be auctioned today. Anyone know what it went for? I was interested but the listing said CA buyers only.
Car was sold for $19800 i was online they announced bad clutch original owner car !!!!
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that price is ridiculous.
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19800! Damn. I wouldn't have give 1900.
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Car was sold for $19800 i was online they announced bad clutch original owner car !!!!


Is there a chance you added an extra 0 to that price ??


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Here is the dealer, Now "Flipping" the car lol

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-Pontia...hajDud&vxp=mtr




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