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Old 05-14-2016, 12:22 PM
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AC Delco belt tensioner???

I had a couple friends over yesterday for a "garage night". One of them noticed that the belt tensioner on my '89 hardtop was leaking, so I checked Rock Auto for an AC Delco replacement.

They have two.

This one for $42.79. Part # 38118

http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....035694&jsn=410




And this one for $76.79. Part# 10055798

http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....035694&jsn=413

The price is really not a factor, but I just wanted to know what the difference is between the two.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: AC Delco belt tensioner???

They do that a lot. One is supposedly original equipment, and the other if you compare the pictures is just a Gates aftermarket replacement in a Delco box. I'm not sure what you have on your car, but my 91 Formula and the spare serpentine setup on the shelf both have the 10055798 style pulley with a raised lip front and back vs the smooth pulley in the 38118 photo.

Any more a lot of the "AC Delco" parts are just reboxed parts from the aftermarket that share little with original parts. Gotta look close to see the differences sometimes, but once you notice you can't un-see them.
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Re: AC Delco belt tensioner???

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I had a couple friends over yesterday for a "garage night". One of them noticed that the belt tensioner on my '89 hardtop was leaking, so I checked Rock Auto for an AC Delco replacement.

They have two.

This one for $42.79. Part # 38118

http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....035694&jsn=410




And this one for $76.79. Part# 10055798

http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....035694&jsn=413

The price is really not a factor, but I just wanted to know what the difference is between the two.

Any help would be appreciated.
How does a belt tensioner leak? It's a spring and a pulley.
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They do that a lot. One is supposedly original equipment, and the other if you compare the pictures is just a Gates aftermarket replacement in a Delco box. I'm not sure what you have on your car, but my 91 Formula and the spare serpentine setup on the shelf both have the 10055798 style pulley with a raised lip front and back vs the smooth pulley in the 38118 photo.

Any more a lot of the "AC Delco" parts are just reboxed parts from the aftermarket that share little with original parts. Gotta look close to see the differences sometimes, but once you notice you can't un-see them.
You are correct. After studying the pictures, the pulley on 10055798 is the same as what's on my car.
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How does a belt tensioner leak? It's a spring and a pulley.
It apparently has a hydraulic component, since there is oil dribbling from the tensioner. I had no idea.

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There is no oil in the tensioner. Most likely source of oil leak is front seal of A/C compressor since it's right beside it and prone to seepage.
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There is no oil in the tensioner. Most likely source of oil leak is front seal of A/C compressor since it's right beside it and prone to seepage.
Are you 100% on that? Because I ordered the tensioner earlier. If so, I'll try to cancel it.
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Are you 100% on that? Because I ordered the tensioner earlier. If so, I'll try to cancel it.
The tensioner is a mechanical component, not hydraulic.

It's a spring, basically.
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Thanks guys. Order cancelled!
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Are you 100% on that? Because I ordered the tensioner earlier. If so, I'll try to cancel it.
Cancel it; and to the person that told you it was leaking, tell them they aren't invited to your next get together. LOL

Like thtanner said, it's just a spring. You can actually see the spring if you look through the slot on the side. This link also shows an exploded diagram of the belt tensioner.

http://www.aa1car.com/library/belt_tensioners.htm

I will tell you some import and some newer model vehicles do have a fluid damper, but nothing GM that is as old as our cars are.
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Cancel it; and to the person that told you it was leaking, tell them they aren't invited to your next get together. LOL

Like thtanner said, it's just a spring. You can actually see the spring if you look through the slot on the side. This link also shows an exploded diagram of the belt tensioner.

http://www.aa1car.com/library/belt_tensioners.htm

I will tell you some import and some newer model vehicles do have a fluid damper, but nothing GM that is as old as our cars are.

I swear, it looked like it was leaking out of the tensioner and dribbling onto the pulley below it.

My AC compressor has leaked oil since day number one, same as every other 3rd gen I've owned. So I did some clean up on the area today and noticed a couple of drops of oil below the AC line fittings near the radiator.

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I swear, it looked like it was leaking out of the tensioner and dribbling onto the pulley below it.

My AC compressor has leaked oil since day number one, same as every other 3rd gen I've owned. So I did some clean up on the area today and noticed a couple of drops of oil below the AC line fittings near the radiator.

I'm trying to post a pic....
No worries, I can see how you might think it was leaking; but definitely worth giving your buddy a hard time over.
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No worries, I can see how you might think it was leaking; but definitely worth giving your buddy a hard time over.
Oh, you'd better believe it!
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I think it's cool you have a wrenching night, though. Everyone I know that is into cars is an hour away from me!
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Just went through this myself...a lot of the aftermarket tensioners don't have a lip on the front and back to keep you from throwing a belt.....will probably track ok without a lip -but I would rather have a lip .
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Well, I know which one I'd order if I needed one, but I cancelled it.

Has anyone had any success in fixing AC compressor leaks?
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Depends how bad the leak is. R4 compressors are notorious for being noisy and for the front seal to weep oil. You could put a new seal in the original case. I couldn't find a good under hood picture of your car so I'm not sure if it still has R12. If it does, I would be tempted to keep it that way. The molecules are bigger and are less prone to leaking out than R134A.
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Re: AC Delco belt tensioner???

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Has anyone had any success in fixing AC compressor leaks?

Well... No. But there are a bunch of videos on Ebay that show how to pop the R4 apart and change the seals. It doesn't LOOK that difficult, but I haven't tried it. Getting the A/C running on a couple of my cars is a priority on my to-do list, so let us know how it works out for you.
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Ebay... Youtube.
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Depends how bad the leak is. R4 compressors are notorious for being noisy and for the front seal to weep oil. You could put a new seal in the original case. I couldn't find a good under hood picture of your car so I'm not sure if it still has R12. If it does, I would be tempted to keep it that way. The molecules are bigger and are less prone to leaking out than R134A.
Still R12. A couple of years ago I topped it off with a can of Duracool.
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Well... No. But there are a bunch of videos on Ebay that show how to pop the R4 apart and change the seals. It doesn't LOOK that difficult, but I haven't tried it. Getting the A/C running on a couple of my cars is a priority on my to-do list, so let us know how it works out for you.
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