'91 1LE TA with T-Tops. Click here, yes it's real
12-24-2015, 02:23 PM
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Car: 1989 IROC G92 LB9 MK6
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Tag swap thread reminds me of Performance Years. Ram4 auto T/A is a cool piece...was the car restored?
12-24-2015, 02:29 PM
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I think purelyPMD is showing us the body with no tags? No question that car is a mess, If the tags are missing I am wondering where they are....... Sounds like it wouldn't be hard to figure out given the cars are so few & far between.
I don't think the missing convertible was ever found either, was it?
12-24-2015, 03:10 PM
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The pictures are of the leftover parts after the restoration....get it?
I happened to meet the guy from the restoration shop at an auction a couple of years ago - he told me that when the extra parts showed up on e-Bay, he was promptly paid the outstanding balance.
From what you can see in the pics, it should be pretty easy to tell which car it was, if you know how they were optioned. Problem is, there are more than one of the nine that met the same fate...multiple of the 4 speeds too!
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I happened to meet the guy from the restoration shop at an auction a couple of years ago - he told me that when the extra parts showed up on e-Bay, he was promptly paid the outstanding balance.
From what you can see in the pics, it should be pretty easy to tell which car it was, if you know how they were optioned. Problem is, there are more than one of the nine that met the same fate...multiple of the 4 speeds too!
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12-24-2015, 03:24 PM
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Bottom line is, it's just a dirty shame the car was not only a daily driver, but driven right into the ground. 
Whats done is done & its pretty hard to acknowledge. I totally get it.
I think it is totally awesome that someone had the opportunity to thoroughly enjoy this car on a daily basis.
Tuck the car away, collect parts for it & see what happens in the future. Cheap investment right now. If this car becomes sought after like a 1969 ZL1, then pour the money into it down the road. For what the car is worth today, it's just not worth touching it IMO unless the restoration is for personal reasons. If its for the money forget it.....[/QUOTE]
You mention a 69 ZL-1. What if that ZL-1 was rotted beyond saving, and instead of doing all sorts of parts hunting and repair and replacement a Dynacorn body was used ? Now that isn't even a factory piece. I'm sure that it would be a selling piont, we started fresh not on a delapitated shell. This would just be the history of the vehicle at this point. Sure it will not have the value of the same car kept in pristine condition, that can never come back, but it is a piece of history worth restoration. I do think that you need a vin tag and matching front subframe to satisfy the DOT.
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Whats done is done & its pretty hard to acknowledge. I totally get it. I think it is totally awesome that someone had the opportunity to thoroughly enjoy this car on a daily basis.
Tuck the car away, collect parts for it & see what happens in the future. Cheap investment right now. If this car becomes sought after like a 1969 ZL1, then pour the money into it down the road. For what the car is worth today, it's just not worth touching it IMO unless the restoration is for personal reasons. If its for the money forget it.....[/QUOTE]
You mention a 69 ZL-1. What if that ZL-1 was rotted beyond saving, and instead of doing all sorts of parts hunting and repair and replacement a Dynacorn body was used ? Now that isn't even a factory piece. I'm sure that it would be a selling piont, we started fresh not on a delapitated shell. This would just be the history of the vehicle at this point. Sure it will not have the value of the same car kept in pristine condition, that can never come back, but it is a piece of history worth restoration. I do think that you need a vin tag and matching front subframe to satisfy the DOT.
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12-24-2015, 03:35 PM
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Hey Chris, it is Hunter, and I am Nocar on PY. Sold my '73 T/A and went back to the 3rd gens. I was a little slow on the draw but now I get the 'leftover parts.'
12-24-2015, 03:55 PM
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You mention a 69 ZL-1. What if that ZL-1 was rotted beyond saving, and instead of doing all sorts of parts hunting and repair and replacement a Dynacorn body was used ? Now that isn't even a factory piece. I'm sure that it would be a selling piont, we started fresh not on a delapitated shell. This would just be the history of the vehicle at this point. Sure it will not have the value of the same car kept in pristine condition, that can never come back, but it is a piece of history worth restoration. I do think that you need a vin tag and matching front subframe to satisfy the DOT.
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12-25-2015, 06:39 AM
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I am curious, why the firewall swap ?
I think a clean V6 t top body would be the way to go in this case. It is the closest thing to a factory replacement piece. Cutting good metal out of a good car/s to repair that much rot is a waste in my opinion. It will never be original again.
I think a clean V6 t top body would be the way to go in this case. It is the closest thing to a factory replacement piece. Cutting good metal out of a good car/s to repair that much rot is a waste in my opinion. It will never be original again.
The VIN stickers had stopped by 91 (due to vats working so well to keep theft down)
12-25-2015, 07:33 AM
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No pics, car was in Canada from new, discovered in a wrecking yard in the 90's been in the Detroit area since. RA III/4spd, Blue Standard Interior, (blue top I believe too) stack gauges car. Finally took the right guy with deep pockets to shake it loose. Gordon got a pile of cash and a 69 TA hardtop for it.
12-25-2015, 07:38 AM
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No kidding? I'm sure there has been talk about it then,
I just haven't been paying attention.
Somewhat of a "famous" car no doubt.
I just haven't been paying attention.
Somewhat of a "famous" car no doubt.
12-25-2015, 09:32 AM
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Back to the OP, did they way a person ordered a 1LE car change from its earlier years? I thought it was ordered/triggered by deleting most luxury options & making a gear change or something along those lines? I was surprised to see almost all options except A/C on this 91. More than likely my lack of knowledge or misinformation, just curious.
12-25-2015, 10:01 AM
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Ok I see what you are saying. I have seen the firewall vin stamping on a second gen but not on a third, I never really looked. The firewall swap is still a good amount of work compared to drilling out a two rivits. The firewall swap would be difficult to detect once seam sealed and reassembled. I am curious how the firewall swap would be viewed by the law, would they go with everything else was replaced ? Especially when every salvagable part matching the revised vin would also be attached to that car. At this point the cat is out of the bag, the public service annoucement has been made. With this being a one of none type car, it can't just show up all brand spankin new somewhere down the road without an explaination.
12-25-2015, 10:19 AM
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"Is it real or is it Memorex" to quote an ad from the 70's!
As you know a good welder can make all the tell tale signs go away. Any car that is a ground up restoration is a questionable vehicle unless you have great documentation including pictures of the restoration. And even that can be faked.
12-25-2015, 11:50 AM
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Back to the OP, did they way a person ordered a 1LE car change from its earlier years? I thought it was ordered/triggered by deleting most luxury options & making a gear change or something along those lines? I was surprised to see almost all options except A/C on this 91. More than likely my lack of knowledge or misinformation, just curious.
12-25-2015, 03:52 PM
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Regarding this Trans Am, it'd be great to save (but not with my money), but at this point we're saving it to match something up with what some stickers and papers say. The car itself is gone. I also don't think 1LE and t-tops is a very logical option combination... unless the intent was street performance in a mild climate, which is probably the case for this Canada car. It's uniqueness and rarity result from its quirky options.
12-26-2015, 08:59 PM
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I worked in a high end restoration shop for years through high school and college... we cut apart many expensive cars to fix rust... lightweight factory ultra rare mopar stuff, hemis, rare chevelles, etc... to me, no matter how much $$ you throw at it and how much you cut out, it's never the same... i'll never own another one that needed rust repair like my first thirdgen did... there is always some area of rust that will form later, there will be pits in areas that are generally unseen, etc... This car can be fixed, but you could blow $40-50k on it in a heartbeat between labor and parts... and still not be done... Right now you could buy some seriously nice rare thirdgens that are low mile and fresh for the same money (hardtop TTAs, 1LEs, maybe a firehawk, etc etc)... The best thing to do with it like others have mentioned is to stick it somewhere dry in as-is form for 10-15 years to see what the market does. If it's worthwhile to restore it then, it was worth keeping. But I don't see it worth doing anything with it now... I always look at the positives in cars when I see them but that one is certainly crusty unfortunately.
12-27-2015, 09:55 AM
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12-27-2015, 04:37 PM
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Personally I think it would be far more fun to get a black 6 cyl t-top bird & swap everything over (except the VIN of course). Show up at the TA nats or Norwalk, and watch the gurus scratch their heads. 
12-29-2015, 01:23 PM
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There were literally HUNDREDS of 1LE's with AC... Ever hear of the B4C Police Package? There you go, 1LE & AC...
What we have come to discover is that there are no 1LE, with BOTH T-Tops AND A/C... The eXception would be the TTA, BUT those did not get the 1LE RPO from my understanding, but they did get the 1LE equipment... Much like the GTA & Formula with the 350 and LB9/MM5 got the "G92" Axle, but did not get the G92 RPO.
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What we have come to discover is that there are no 1LE, with BOTH T-Tops AND A/C... The eXception would be the TTA, BUT those did not get the 1LE RPO from my understanding, but they did get the 1LE equipment... Much like the GTA & Formula with the 350 and LB9/MM5 got the "G92" Axle, but did not get the G92 RPO.
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12-29-2015, 04:37 PM
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There were literally HUNDREDS of 1LE's with AC... Ever hear of the B4C Police Package? There you go, 1LE & AC...
What we have come to discover is that there are no 1LE, with BOTH T-Tops AND A/C... The eXception would be the TTA, BUT those did not get the 1LE RPO from my understanding, but they did get the 1LE equipment... Much like the GTA & Formula with the 350 and LB9/MM5 got the "G92" Axle, but did not get the G92 RPO.
John
What we have come to discover is that there are no 1LE, with BOTH T-Tops AND A/C... The eXception would be the TTA, BUT those did not get the 1LE RPO from my understanding, but they did get the 1LE equipment... Much like the GTA & Formula with the 350 and LB9/MM5 got the "G92" Axle, but did not get the G92 RPO.
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We are aware of that. We know about the TTA's and we know about the B4C's. What I said was there were several 1LE Trans Am's built - I believe there were at least 2 either 1989 or 1991 Trans Am's built with Air Conditioning that are counted in the 1LE production but not in your TTA or B4C numbers.
As a second point, I do not believe there were ANY B4C birds built - you can confirm or deny that for me I'm sure.
Stay on point & stop chasing squirrels!
12-29-2015, 07:10 PM
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Since I've seen the car, I'll give a realistic spin on what it will take to fix this car. Fenders, doors, hood, and hatch are the least of this car's worries. This isn't about being able to get parts. This is about reconstructing the entire body shell. It needs quarters, rear wheel houses, floors, rockers, possibly a whole roof (at least a complete windshield frame), and an entire front clip from the door hinges forward. I have yet to see the condition of the rear of the body tub so who knows what else would be needed there.
The challenge and expense is to do all that work in such a way that even the purist can't tell. If once the car's done you can look under the carpet, or look at the bottom side of the car on a hoist and see where repairs have been made, the value will be dramatically reduced. Same goes for all the little nit pick stuff like brake lines, fuel lines, exhaust etc. There are already immaculate versions of 1LE cars out there, it would be monumental to get this car back to that condition. If the car was simply repaired to be structurally sound and nitpick items like brake and fuel lines were custom made and aftermarket exhaust installed, is it still valuable? Or is it another modded thirdgen that purists won't pay for? The question is, is the car so far gone that any originality it ever had is already lost?
I'm not leaning one way or the other right now. Ideally I'd like to see someone fix it, but from what I've currently seen, it will take major skilled labor to get this car back in the condition of other 1LE cars.
The challenge and expense is to do all that work in such a way that even the purist can't tell. If once the car's done you can look under the carpet, or look at the bottom side of the car on a hoist and see where repairs have been made, the value will be dramatically reduced. Same goes for all the little nit pick stuff like brake lines, fuel lines, exhaust etc. There are already immaculate versions of 1LE cars out there, it would be monumental to get this car back to that condition. If the car was simply repaired to be structurally sound and nitpick items like brake and fuel lines were custom made and aftermarket exhaust installed, is it still valuable? Or is it another modded thirdgen that purists won't pay for? The question is, is the car so far gone that any originality it ever had is already lost?
I'm not leaning one way or the other right now. Ideally I'd like to see someone fix it, but from what I've currently seen, it will take major skilled labor to get this car back in the condition of other 1LE cars.
Financially, it makes no sense whatsoever to save this. Good 1LEs can be had for less than 20k all day long. You'll double that amount restoring this, at least, and would be lucky to get 10k if you sold. The miles, lack of SSID, and lack of original panels and parts will keep it on the very low end of the 1LE market, in spite of the rarity.
But who knows, times may change. It's rarity would give me a pause about parting it out. If it were mine and I had room, I'd store it awhile and see what happens with these over the next 10 years. Alternatively, I'd sell it to someone who would.
12-29-2015, 10:17 PM
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Anyone have access to the breakdown of the 15 CC1, Z49, Canadian 1LE Trans Ams? Could you get an L98, CC1, 1LE? Of the 15, how many black CC1 1LE 5 speeds? It is one of 15 at this point, is it still one of 15 after sorting for drivetrain and paint?
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12-30-2015, 07:21 AM
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Technically it should be possible, but with the Formula ONLY at least for 1991 & 1992. Remember in 1990 there were no CC1, L98 cars, but for the later half of 1991 and all of 1992 you could only order the L98 & CC1 on the Formula, with the stipulation that you got the Lightweight black cross-laced rims.
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John, John, John.
We are aware of that. We know about the TTA's and we know about the B4C's. What I said was there were several 1LE Trans Am's built - I believe there were at least 2 either 1989 or 1991 Trans Am's built with Air Conditioning that are counted in the 1LE production but not in your TTA or B4C numbers.
We are aware of that. We know about the TTA's and we know about the B4C's. What I said was there were several 1LE Trans Am's built - I believe there were at least 2 either 1989 or 1991 Trans Am's built with Air Conditioning that are counted in the 1LE production but not in your TTA or B4C numbers.
Tuche' I got caught up in F-body-fan's post when he made a general post/question about 1LE, and went down a Squirrel hole. That happens to me occasionally, kind of embarrassing.
Although I did go down a squirrel hole, my overall point was that
1) you could get CC1 with 1LE,
2) you could get A/C with 1LE,
3) ultimately there were no 1LE, CC1, C60 cars thru 1992.
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There was almost 1 1LE CC1 C60 92 formula 305 5speed built... still a bit upset about that, I do have the order sheet for it still.
12-30-2015, 08:41 AM
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I know in some instances they let you "order" the car, but then come back later with an "incompatible" message, and give suggestions to how to rectify it. Either remove this or that, etc... That is how they handled the 1986 L98 Camaro that I have the order for...
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12-30-2015, 09:56 AM
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I'm really digging the stats that are coming out of this thread - thanks to all!
I find it interesting that Pontiac allowed more latitude and straying from the standard than Chevrolet did.
Is it true there are no (zero, zilch) 1LE CC1 Camaros and that the only 1LE Camaros built with C60 A/C were the B4C cars? Or have some anomalies shown up here as well?
I find it interesting that Pontiac allowed more latitude and straying from the standard than Chevrolet did.
Is it true there are no (zero, zilch) 1LE CC1 Camaros and that the only 1LE Camaros built with C60 A/C were the B4C cars? Or have some anomalies shown up here as well?
12-30-2015, 11:05 AM
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I know the Camaro guys hate it when I say this, but the truth of the matter still holds that The Firebird line was supposed to be a step up from the Camaro line. Even today a Top of the Line Chevrolet Tahoe LTZ is not as nice as a Top of the line GMC Yukon Denali... Chevrolet was for the Hoi Palloi, and Pontiac was for the poor but proud.
It may explain why Pontiac was able to get away with things that Chevrolet was not. If there were going to be holes to be filled GM would have sealed them up with Chevrolet. Since Pontiac was the rejected stepsibling of Chevrolet they did not pay as much attention to them.
It may explain why Pontiac was able to get away with things that Chevrolet was not. If there were going to be holes to be filled GM would have sealed them up with Chevrolet. Since Pontiac was the rejected stepsibling of Chevrolet they did not pay as much attention to them.
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I know the Camaro guys hate it when I say this, but the truth of the matter still holds that The Firebird line was supposed to be a step up from the Camaro line. Even today a Top of the Line Chevrolet Tahoe LTZ is not as nice as a Top of the line GMC Yukon Denali... Chevrolet was for the Hoi Palloi, and Pontiac was for the poor but proud.
It may explain why Pontiac was able to get away with things that Chevrolet was not. If there were going to be holes to be filled GM would have sealed them up with Chevrolet. Since Pontiac was the rejected stepsibling of Chevrolet they did not pay as much attention to them.
It may explain why Pontiac was able to get away with things that Chevrolet was not. If there were going to be holes to be filled GM would have sealed them up with Chevrolet. Since Pontiac was the rejected stepsibling of Chevrolet they did not pay as much attention to them.
12-30-2015, 01:09 PM
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There may be more that goes into it than really what is on the surface. In most cases what it all boiled down to is the weight of the vehicle. There was so much that went on to keep the EPA happy... Nice to know how much the government plays & Regulates our lives...
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Way to go JT...1 of 7. I figured folks would have bought more black birds, I was right. Cool.
12-30-2015, 06:10 PM
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Just keep in mind that these or any figures may not be 100% accurate. GM did not keep track of option on top of option. Compnine is a 3rd party that had obtained the majority of the later ThirdGen VIN/RPOs and with that database and a custom script to select and compare, they provide the figures.
But even GM's own records can be off. I have two different letters from Pontiac in regard to 1992 Trans Am Convertible production figures that don't match and there is no obvious reason (Canadian-export, etc.) to explain why.
But even GM's own records can be off. I have two different letters from Pontiac in regard to 1992 Trans Am Convertible production figures that don't match and there is no obvious reason (Canadian-export, etc.) to explain why.
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Axle/Gears: 3.45
Re: '91 1LE TA with T-Tops. Click here, yes it's real
I agree that these stats are not perfect, but it does go to show this is prolly a rare bird.
01-04-2016, 08:45 AM
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Re: '91 1LE TA with T-Tops. Click here, yes it's real
From what I have found Compnine is spot on for car to car results. For example, when I have put in a VIN it gives me the correct car... What Compnine is missing is data. There are apparently several sets of data for the F-body,
1) The primary data, which includes 90-95%
2) The secondary data, which includes about 5-8%
3) Missing Data. which includes 2-4%
When you get the production figures back, the secondary and obviously the missing data is not included, so as the case in point, you are probably looking at most 10-12 cars with your criteria.
John
1) The primary data, which includes 90-95%
2) The secondary data, which includes about 5-8%
3) Missing Data. which includes 2-4%
When you get the production figures back, the secondary and obviously the missing data is not included, so as the case in point, you are probably looking at most 10-12 cars with your criteria.
John
06-03-2016, 10:44 AM
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06-03-2016, 01:41 PM
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Car: 1989 IROC G92 LB9 MK6
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Re: '91 1LE TA with T-Tops. Click here, yes it's real
I bought it, trailered it home and got it running. 
This car runs great and is all original except warranty transmission from '92. Folks really hated on this Bird but it is 1 of 15 export or 1 of 7 black Z49, CC1 1LE Trans Ams. As long as you hold your feet up while driving it is a blast. 
This car runs great and is all original except warranty transmission from '92. Folks really hated on this Bird but it is 1 of 15 export or 1 of 7 black Z49, CC1 1LE Trans Ams. As long as you hold your feet up while driving it is a blast.
06-03-2016, 01:48 PM
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Car: 1989 IROC G92 LB9 MK6
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Re: '91 1LE TA with T-Tops. Click here, yes it's real
I bought it, trailered it home and got it running. This car runs great and is all original except warranty transmission from '92. Folks really hated on this Bird but it is 1 of 15 export or 1 of 7 black Z49, CC1 1LE Trans Ams. As long as you hold your feet up while driving it is a blast.
This car runs great and is all original except warranty transmission from '92. Folks really hated on this Bird but it is 1 of 15 export or 1 of 7 black Z49, CC1 1LE Trans Ams. As long as you hold your feet up while driving it is a blast.
06-03-2016, 02:37 PM
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Re: '91 1LE TA with T-Tops. Click here, yes it's real
1991 Numbers including B4U Hawk & R7U Players Cup info:
1LE production 1991 = 106, 46 Formulas & 60 TA's
1LE + B4U Hawks = 9, All Formulas
1LE + C60 = 9, All Formulas and all L98 and all B4U Hawks
1LE + MK6 = 87, 27 Formulas and 60 TA's
1LE + R7U = 23, All TA's and all MK6
1LE + L98 = 19, All Formulas, 9 B4U Hawks
1LE + Z49 Export Models = 43, All TA's, all MK6, 23 R7U Players Cup Cars
1LE + CC1 T-Tops = 27, 8 Formula & 19 TA, all MK6 and 15 of the TA's were Z49 Export
1LE production 1991 = 106, 46 Formulas & 60 TA's
1LE + B4U Hawks = 9, All Formulas
1LE + C60 = 9, All Formulas and all L98 and all B4U Hawks
1LE + MK6 = 87, 27 Formulas and 60 TA's
1LE + R7U = 23, All TA's and all MK6
1LE + L98 = 19, All Formulas, 9 B4U Hawks
1LE + Z49 Export Models = 43, All TA's, all MK6, 23 R7U Players Cup Cars
1LE + CC1 T-Tops = 27, 8 Formula & 19 TA, all MK6 and 15 of the TA's were Z49 Export
06-04-2016, 08:18 PM
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