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Old 02-14-2014, 04:50 PM
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ALERT 10K MILES 1985 IROC TULSA

Not a maro guy so not sure if this is a "crack pipe price"...........but enjoy boys

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"If you're looking for a low, low original mileage Gen 3 Camaro then this car is as new and factory fresh as you will find: A 1985 IROC with 9700 original miles, 305 TPI, automatic, power and air, including power driver's seat, windows, power locks, cruise and 4-wheel disc brakes. Black with red graphics and red CAMARO CAMARO interior with split rear seat. Never any paint or body work. A/C blows ice cold and calipers were recently replaced on rear brakes. This is a show car that can be driven with confidence. Also comes with documentation. Asking price reduced to $15,000."




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Re: ALERT 10K MILES 1985 IROC TULSA

Originally Posted by 3rdgenparts
Not a maro guy so not sure if this is a "crack pipe price"...........but enjoy boys

Dave


guy's ad

http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/4306853353.html


"If you're looking for a low, low original mileage Gen 3 Camaro then this car is as new and factory fresh as you will find: A 1985 IROC with 9700 original miles, 305 TPI, automatic, power and air, including power driver's seat, windows, power locks, cruise and 4-wheel disc brakes. Black with red graphics and red CAMARO CAMARO interior with split rear seat. Never any paint or body work. A/C blows ice cold and calipers were recently replaced on rear brakes. This is a show car that can be driven with confidence. Also comes with documentation. Asking price reduced to $15,000."






Posted for sale on this board...

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/cama...-z-9700-a.html
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To be honest... I think it is more than a fair asking price for what I have seen, for the miles... Too bad it isn't yellow
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That car is listed in multiple CL postings - only 9700k miles ??? Im skeptical. Id bet it its 109k miles.
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Where these seats made by GM ? I like the bolsters .....

and were they callled sport seats or ?
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Where these seats made by GM ? I like the bolsters .....
Optional Lear Siegler seats.
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I've seen this car for sale before and I think it's legit. Black, LB9 hardtop 4whl disc with red L/S contour interior. Yeah, I'd buy it!!!
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I've seen this car for sale before and I think it's legit. Black, LB9 hardtop 4whl disc with red L/S contour interior. Yeah, I'd buy it!!!
Everyone says they "would".. no one does.
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Why Would You Have To Replace The Rear Calipers On A 9,700 Mile Car.
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Why Would You Have To Replace The Rear Calipers On A 9,700 Mile Car.
Age ..... they probably weren't releasing properly or were leaking... Rubber stuff dries out with age and lack of use. Brake fluid also attracts moisture.
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interior looks very faded for so low of miles also.
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Run a carfax or autocheck on it. Ive seen 30+ year old cars w/super low miles & wearing all their original parts. Interior does have fade & i want to see what kind of documentation it has.
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Shouldn't The IROC-Z Door Decals "Slant" To The Rear Of The Car,Not The Front.


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in 85??

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or look at one of our moderators cars...scottmoyer...he got this car with 6343 on the clock... but its an 87




I believe on the passenger side it was forward facing.. I think they were the same sticker used on both sides for the first year. I may be wrong..

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Re: ALERT 10K MILES 1985 IROC TULSA

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Shouldn't The IROC-Z Door Decals "Slant" To The Rear Of The Car,Not The Front.
The second photo you posted is just the perspective and curve of the car body creating the impression that IROC-Z leans to the rear.
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In 1988 they moved the decal to the rear of the door.
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Speaking of "crack pipe prices" I posted my car for $20,000 on craigslist a while back. I took it down after a couple of hours. I didn't want to have to explain myself. Some people just love their cars, but if there is someone that is willing to overpay it makes selling a lot easier. A "crack pipe price" would be the exact opposite I would have listed my car for $20.
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The sticker on both sides is the same sticker. The RH & LH are not different with opposing angles, they are not "directional"

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i always heard that the early disc brake set ups had issues and i believe gm had either a service bulletin or recall on the hardware. I'm not sure but i believe they are the delco-moraine design. They were built from 85 to 87/88 which was replaced with the PBR setup.
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The "PBR" brakes were used on 88+ 1LE cars and 89+ all 4 wheel disc brake cars...
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Daaaaaaaaang, if I were looking for a hardtop '85 IROC (and had money to purchase one), I'd take a really good look at this car. Great options, and an awesome color combo.
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If someone is really serious I'll go by and look at it since I'm local.
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Re: ALERT 10K MILES 1985 IROC TULSA

Originally Posted by 71nova
Speaking of "crack pipe prices" I posted my car for $20,000 on craigslist a while back. I took it down after a couple of hours. I didn't want to have to explain myself. Some people just love their cars, but if there is someone that is willing to overpay it makes selling a lot easier. A "crack pipe price" would be the exact opposite I would have listed my car for $20.
We may get to see what the top of the market is with this one -- a beautiful sub-20k mile 1989 IROC with the L98, full documentation, a very rare (and documented) dealer installed SLP package, factory stripe delete, and loaded with options. Arguably the best year for the 3rd Gen with the best performance and luxury options.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331132584426...84.m1423.l2649

He started the auction at $15k and got nothing for awhile. He recently got 1 bidder, which is where it stands with 7 hours left. So people aren't beating down his door, though I was suprised to see he even got a bidder at that price level. My general sense is that $12k is about the very top of the 3rd Gen market at this point.

It'll be interesting to see if this one can raise the bar. I guess we'll know if it doesn't get relisted due to a "non-paying bidder," LOL!
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Re: ALERT 10K MILES 1985 IROC TULSA

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We may get to see what the top of the market is with this one -- a beautiful sub-20k mile 1989 IROC with the L98, full documentation, a very rare (and documented) dealer installed SLP package, factory stripe delete, and loaded with options. Arguably the best year for the 3rd Gen with the best performance and luxury options.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331132584426...84.m1423.l2649

He started the auction at $15k and got nothing for awhile. He recently got 1 bidder, which is where it stands with 7 hours left. So people aren't beating down his door, though I was suprised to see he even got a bidder at that price level. My general sense is that $12k is about the very top of the 3rd Gen market at this point.

It'll be interesting to see if this one can raise the bar. I guess we'll know if it doesn't get relisted due to a "non-paying bidder," LOL!
I should point out that the Auto Check report on this car is very funky. The report has the car's mileage history all over the place -- 2,100 in 1989, 71,000 in 2003, 75,000 in 2005, back down to 7,000 in 2007, 8,000 in 2010, and 182,000 in 2013!

And Autocheck still gives it a high score above the range, LOL! That's weird because they saddled my Z28 with an abysmal "7" score simply because it had a lot of owners.

The car's apparent condition shows that this is wrong but I'd want to clear it up before laying down 15 large.
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Re: ALERT 10K MILES 1985 IROC TULSA

My .02 - id bet the house its 109700 miles. CARFAX report would answer all questions.
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& its really tough to judge condition by a couple pics.
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We may get to see what the top of the market is with this one -- a beautiful sub-20k mile 1989 IROC with the L98, full documentation, a very rare (and documented) dealer installed SLP package, factory stripe delete, and loaded with options. Arguably the best year for the 3rd Gen with the best performance and luxury options.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331132584426...84.m1423.l2649

He started the auction at $15k and got nothing for awhile. He recently got 1 bidder, which is where it stands with 7 hours left. So people aren't beating down his door, though I was suprised to see he even got a bidder at that price level. My general sense is that $12k is about the very top of the 3rd Gen market at this point.

It'll be interesting to see if this one can raise the bar. I guess we'll know if it doesn't get relisted due to a "non-paying bidder," LOL!
What struck me was the wheels... is it me or are the wheels 15" not the 16" as they should be... or is it an illusion?
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What struck me was the wheels... is it me or are the wheels 15" not the 16" as they should be... or is it an illusion?
They look like the 16"s to me though the sidewall looks tall for a set of P245/50s. Unfortunately cannot read the sidewall in the close up of the tire.

About the only red flag I notice right now is the fact that the rear of the car sits low. Of course, this wasn't uncommon from the factory. I remember when Hot Rod or Car Craft bought a Formula back around then to modify and commented on how low the rear end sat. Carpets, pedals and seats look awful good for a car with 109k on it.
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They look like the 16"s to me though the sidewall looks tall for a set of P245/50s. Unfortunately cannot read the sidewall in the close up of the tire.

About the only red flag I notice right now is the fact that the rear of the car sits low. Of course, this wasn't uncommon from the factory. I remember when Hot Rod or Car Craft bought a Formula back around then to modify and commented on how low the rear end sat. Carpets, pedals and seats look awful good for a car with 109k on it.
Agreed... I would think it is a low miles car, just from the condition of the turn signal, the brake peddle, and other things have very little wear on them...

You can replace these things, but it costs a small fortune to get the "correct" pieces...

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Originally Posted by okfoz
Agreed... I would think it is a low miles car, just from the condition of the turn signal, the brake peddle, and other things have very little wear on them...

You can replace these things, but it costs a small fortune to get the "correct" pieces...

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Steering wheel, shift ****, plastics, switchgear, and dash pad also indicate low mileage. My 65,000 mile car was much more worn. Unless he did some serious interior work, with parts that aren't even available anymore, it seems to be a low mile car.

It's amazing to me given how nice the car is and how much money he's trying to get that he didn't correct the Autocheck report, or at least point out in the description that it's wrong. That may explain his 1 bid.

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My .02 - id bet the house its 109700 miles. CARFAX report would answer all questions.
I'll take that bet, there is no way that car has 109 & looks that clean! The autocheck reports are littered with errors, this one says it has 182,000 miles on it!
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I imagine that 182,000 was supposed to be 18,200, as it has just over that now. I chalk that up to whoever was doing the emissions test and couldn't read the odometer correctly...
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My 89 Formula 350 has this issue with Autocheck...

Within one year according to Autocheck someone drove the car 57,000 miles, what killed me was the Autocheck was out of whack, the CarFax at least did not show such oddities IIRC... If you overlaid them and used the information from both, you could see that some moron at an oil change place, or the emissions testing place used the 10ths digit... If you figure that you can clearly see that human error was made twice...

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05/15/1991 FORT LAUDERDALE, FL 2,000 Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
05/27/1994 FL 5,000 Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
05/25/1995 FL 63,000 Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
06/18/1996 FL Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
06/19/1996 FORT LAUDERDALE, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
06/04/1998 PORT WASHINGTON, NY Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
07/29/1998 PORT WASHINGTON, NY 76,500 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE

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