which was the fastest 3rd gen Produced?
09-02-2002, 09:24 PM
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which was the fastest 3rd gen Produced?
Hey everyone I'm new hear and interested in buying a 82-92 camaro. Do u know which year and model was the fastest? Or maybe even the 2nd and 3rd fastest years and models? thanks guys in advance for the help:lala:
09-02-2002, 09:33 PM
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hey and welcome to the boards. i would say the 1LE camaro's are the fastest i think, but i would say get you an 87-90 Iroc with a 350 tpi/ auto or 305 tpi/ 5-speed or the 91-92 z28 350 tpi/ auto or 305 tpi/ 5-speed those are probably gonna be your fastest for less money
09-02-2002, 09:39 PM
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Fastest third gen, or just camaro, cause i assume its the 1989 Turbo Trans AM 20th Anniversary. Buick V6 turbo engine, GM rated it at 301HP, but i hear it was under-rated, so i dont know for sure.
09-03-2002, 01:11 AM
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Fastest special edition Camaro would be the 1LE IROC-Z's and Z28's. Fastest regular production would be the 87-90 IROC 350's and 91-92 Z28 350's. Yes the LB9 5-Speed G92's are quick, but they are not as fast as L98's Auto's and do not have the same potential either, but they would be up there too. The fastest LB9 Auto I think would be the 85's.
09-03-2002, 01:54 AM
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Why would a 1LE Camaro be any faster than a Camaro with the G92 option? Wasn't the 1LE option simply only brakes and suspension?
90-92 Speed Density TPI Camaros are most likely the fastest stock 3rd gen Camaro.
90-92 Speed Density TPI Camaros are most likely the fastest stock 3rd gen Camaro.
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09-03-2002, 09:06 AM
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Wouldn't the fastest 3rd gen Firebird be one of the 92 Firehawks with the aluminum 383 (cammed, t-rammed with a full exhaust setup), zf 6 speed tranny and dana 9" rear with 3.42 gears?
Just thinking out loud.
Just thinking out loud.
09-03-2002, 11:41 AM
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1LEs weighed slightly less due to no air conditioning and sparce interior options. That could account for minimal improvements in speed.
1LEs weighed slightly less due to no air conditioning and sparce interior options. That could account for minimal improvements in speed.
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The fastest third gen period was the 1992 Firehawk.
1989 Turbo GTA ran a best of 13.5 in the quarter at 101mph. It had 0-60 times at 4.6
1992 Firehawk had a best quarter mile run at 13.2 at 107mph. It also had a 0-60 time of 4-6.
I don't believe there was a Camaro that could come close to these times so the '92 Firehawk would be the fastest 3rd gen. Of course it had a base price of $39,000 and the competition package was almost another $10,000.:hail:
1989 Turbo GTA ran a best of 13.5 in the quarter at 101mph. It had 0-60 times at 4.6
1992 Firehawk had a best quarter mile run at 13.2 at 107mph. It also had a 0-60 time of 4-6.
I don't believe there was a Camaro that could come close to these times so the '92 Firehawk would be the fastest 3rd gen. Of course it had a base price of $39,000 and the competition package was almost another $10,000.:hail:
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Firehawks would be the fastest, then TTAs, then 1LE 350s, then L98 cars, then 305s. Chances are you are not gonna get your hands on a Firehawk, TTA, or 1LE, so that leaves the L98 cars. L98 is the 350 cubic inch engine. You could only get the 350 with an auto tranny. So now lets break down the L98 cars. Now, 91 and 92 350s are the most powerful however they are hard to find, not many were produced, at least not to many Z28s, don't know about Firbirds and T/As though. You also have to look at the rear end gears and posi. There were options on rear gear ratios, and posi or not. The first year for the 350 was 87' all these cars have the 3.27 gears with posi. 88' to 92' were optional. Also look on the tech data on this site for hp and trq ratings for each year.
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My new TTA
My TTA has been chipped and performance exhaust/minor intake mods. For a total of $600 (Mods) it will run 13 sec flat on 1/4. My best friend who owns a 454 LS6 Chevelle told me that the TTA "is so quick...it should be illegal "
1.) The TTA is a "actual production car" with its 1555 units sold. The Firehawk is not a production car.
2.) The TTA with the Turbo V-6 engine can be modified to run into the low 11s with a couple of hundred bucks and turbo boost mods. Can't say that about the Firehawk.
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1.) The TTA is a "actual production car" with its 1555 units sold. The Firehawk is not a production car.
2.) The TTA with the Turbo V-6 engine can be modified to run into the low 11s with a couple of hundred bucks and turbo boost mods. Can't say that about the Firehawk.
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09-03-2002, 11:11 PM
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70Firebird, Sorry but I believe you are wrong on the "production car" portion.
How can you possibly say that the TTA is production and that the Firehawk is not!
TTA: had of course it's own RPO code and could be ordered built as a TTA. Car built by GM and engine installed by PAS.
Firehawk: Also had it's own RPO code and could be ordered built as a Firehawk. Car built by GM and engine installed by SLP.
What's the difference? Both cars were sent to other companies other than GM to be completed so as fas as I am concerned, if there is an RPO code for it then it is "production", if not, THEN it is aftermarket.
How can you possibly say that the TTA is production and that the Firehawk is not!
TTA: had of course it's own RPO code and could be ordered built as a TTA. Car built by GM and engine installed by PAS.
Firehawk: Also had it's own RPO code and could be ordered built as a Firehawk. Car built by GM and engine installed by SLP.
What's the difference? Both cars were sent to other companies other than GM to be completed so as fas as I am concerned, if there is an RPO code for it then it is "production", if not, THEN it is aftermarket.
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92GTA Come on...don't stretch it. You know for a car to be considered a production run...it must have at least 1000-1500 cars produced. A "specialty" car to only have 27 cars "officially" and 25 actually,,, to be considered a production car is really pushing the envelope.
In that same arguement you could make a case that Pontiac should have outsourced to a 3rd company and build 25 + TTAs and install the $1000 dollars worth of upgrades required to get the TTA into the 11s...then we could call it the Super Duper TTA
I guess the pros at Car and Driver were wrong when they stated the TTA AS the quickest Trans Am ever (0-60 4.6 sec 1/4 mile at 13.4 stock)? With all the research material available to their car pro staff they must have missed something or fell asleep before they saw the Firehawk article.
In that same arguement you could make a case that Pontiac should have outsourced to a 3rd company and build 25 + TTAs and install the $1000 dollars worth of upgrades required to get the TTA into the 11s...then we could call it the Super Duper TTA
I guess the pros at Car and Driver were wrong when they stated the TTA AS the quickest Trans Am ever (0-60 4.6 sec 1/4 mile at 13.4 stock)? With all the research material available to their car pro staff they must have missed something or fell asleep before they saw the Firehawk article.
09-04-2002, 12:04 AM
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Well I guess you got me there because when I typed that post I wasn't even thinking about the # of vehicles that has to made for a model to be considered "Production". I guess if I was going to try and be technical I should have thought about that
Technically the TTA IS the fastest production Trans Am because the Firehawk if a Formula
Technically the TTA IS the fastest production Trans Am because the Firehawk if a Formula
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Re: My new TTA
Originally posted by 70Firebird
1.) The TTA is a "actual production car" with its 1555 units sold. The Firehawk is not a production car.
1.) The TTA is a "actual production car" with its 1555 units sold. The Firehawk is not a production car.
TTA's are the fastest Trans Am to come from the factory ever as far as I know.
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We both have good points:
Actually 1 of the 25 Firehawks made in the 1992 model year was a Trans Am Convert.
Let's say that the 2 cars were produced with slightly different "spirit" or "motivation" as Pontiac Motor Divisision was concerned. It could be said that the TTA was created in the "spirit" of a production car being in the minds of the Pontiac top brass. Remember that Pontiac has a tendency to borrow from other car manf technologies. i.e. use of Chevy 305, 350, Olds 403, and Buicks Turbo-V6. Thus would explain why PAS was contracted to make this Buick engine fit within the narrower engine bay (compared to wider engine bay of the GN/GNX) Pontiac heads/headers and other mods. I would bet the kitchen sink that Pontiac held the TTA in higher esteem based on a number of reasons... 1.) 1555 production number=more sales=$$$ 2.) Pace Car for 73rd Indianapolis 500 Race Honors 3.) 20th Annv Commemorative model.
The 92 Firehawk on the other hand can be seen as leaning more to the "concept car" camp. The engine was way ahead of it's time and sported LT-1 "ish" engine parts technology to a degree. Remember that the LT-1 was only available in Corvette for the 1992 production year and 92 F-Body was TPI. When I think of the marvelous Firehawk...I think of the mission statement of such contempories as Saleen, Legenfelter, Copo, Shelby.... Just an opinion.
Actually 1 of the 25 Firehawks made in the 1992 model year was a Trans Am Convert.
Let's say that the 2 cars were produced with slightly different "spirit" or "motivation" as Pontiac Motor Divisision was concerned. It could be said that the TTA was created in the "spirit" of a production car being in the minds of the Pontiac top brass. Remember that Pontiac has a tendency to borrow from other car manf technologies. i.e. use of Chevy 305, 350, Olds 403, and Buicks Turbo-V6. Thus would explain why PAS was contracted to make this Buick engine fit within the narrower engine bay (compared to wider engine bay of the GN/GNX) Pontiac heads/headers and other mods. I would bet the kitchen sink that Pontiac held the TTA in higher esteem based on a number of reasons... 1.) 1555 production number=more sales=$$$ 2.) Pace Car for 73rd Indianapolis 500 Race Honors 3.) 20th Annv Commemorative model.
The 92 Firehawk on the other hand can be seen as leaning more to the "concept car" camp. The engine was way ahead of it's time and sported LT-1 "ish" engine parts technology to a degree. Remember that the LT-1 was only available in Corvette for the 1992 production year and 92 F-Body was TPI. When I think of the marvelous Firehawk...I think of the mission statement of such contempories as Saleen, Legenfelter, Copo, Shelby.... Just an opinion.
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I think an Iron Duke 3rd Gen falling off the edge of Mt. Everest would probably be the fastest......Man wouldn't that be a rush!!! The terminal volocity would be outragiously fast. Oh man, what am I thinking here? NO Camaro,..not even an Iron Duke should ever fall to that kinda fate. I apologize for my poor 3rd Gen humor. Back to the topic, TTA all the way. More production #'s, and endless potential.:hail:
I apologize for my poor 3rd Gen humor. Back to the topic, TTA all the way. More production #'s, and endless potential.:hail:
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Come on now guys, First he asked about a Camaro by name. He also sounds like he has little or no experience with these cars, So here's how it goes. Top 3 Camaro's
90-92 L98 cars w/ 3.23 rear (G92)
87-89 L98 cars w/ 3.27 rear (G92)
90-92 LB9 cars w. 3.42 rear (G92)
However if you are new to Camaro's I suggest you start with an early generation (83-85) L69 (H.O. 305) car (preferably stick). These cars will get you into the same style and cost far less, plus it will get you used to some of the power before jumping in over your head.
Later, Garrett
90-92 L98 cars w/ 3.23 rear (G92)
87-89 L98 cars w/ 3.27 rear (G92)
90-92 LB9 cars w. 3.42 rear (G92)
However if you are new to Camaro's I suggest you start with an early generation (83-85) L69 (H.O. 305) car (preferably stick). These cars will get you into the same style and cost far less, plus it will get you used to some of the power before jumping in over your head.
Later, Garrett
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did firehawks really have 383's? i was always under the assuption of the TTA beein the fastest f-body ever, faster then a 4th gen... stock....but i dont know a lot about firehawks.... they are so rare... thank *** slp did something with our cars before they want all 4th gen.
09-07-2002, 03:20 PM
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Only Firehawk #026 has a 383, then a couple others have a 366 and the rest are 350's. #026 only has a 383 though because SLP had a mechanical problem with it's original 366 so when they rebuilt it they stroked it because the owner wanted more power...
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Come on now guys, First he asked about a Camaro by name. He also sounds like he has little or no experience with these cars, So here's how it goes. Top 3 Camaro's
90-92 L98 cars w/ 3.23 rear (G92)
87-89 L98 cars w/ 3.27 rear (G92)
90-92 LB9 cars w. 3.42 rear (G92)
However if you are new to Camaro's I suggest you start with an early generation (83-85) L69 (H.O. 305) car (preferably stick). These cars will get you into the same style and cost far less, plus it will get you used to some of the power before jumping in over your head.
Later, Garrett
90-92 L98 cars w/ 3.23 rear (G92)
87-89 L98 cars w/ 3.27 rear (G92)
90-92 LB9 cars w. 3.42 rear (G92)
However if you are new to Camaro's I suggest you start with an early generation (83-85) L69 (H.O. 305) car (preferably stick). These cars will get you into the same style and cost far less, plus it will get you used to some of the power before jumping in over your head.
Later, Garrett
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Re: which was the fastest 3rd gen Produced?
70Firebird, Sorry but I believe you are wrong on the "production car" portion.
How can you possibly say that the TTA is production and that the Firehawk is not!
TTA: had of course it's own RPO code and could be ordered built as a TTA. Car built by GM and engine installed by PAS.
Firehawk: Also had it's own RPO code and could be ordered built as a Firehawk. Car built by GM and engine installed by SLP.
What's the difference? Both cars were sent to other companies other than GM to be completed so as fas as I am concerned, if there is an RPO code for it then it is "production", if not, THEN it is aftermarket.
How can you possibly say that the TTA is production and that the Firehawk is not!
TTA: had of course it's own RPO code and could be ordered built as a TTA. Car built by GM and engine installed by PAS.
Firehawk: Also had it's own RPO code and could be ordered built as a Firehawk. Car built by GM and engine installed by SLP.
What's the difference? Both cars were sent to other companies other than GM to be completed so as fas as I am concerned, if there is an RPO code for it then it is "production", if not, THEN it is aftermarket.
...if it has an RPO, its production. Both the PAS-converted Turbo TA and the SLP-converted Firehawks had RPO Codes. 
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Re: which was the fastest 3rd gen Produced?
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