Keoman

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Keoman

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Nothing? Alrighty then.

ghettocruiser

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Sooo... Dont take this the wrong way or anything..just want to understand what you are offering.

You are taking a headlight reflector bowl...chopping the back off...and adding fiberglass reinforcement trimmed to fit a general projector shape and Im assuming to give something to screw the projector into? But arent actually providing the projector, or glass (what happened to the glass that was on there) or mounting? And are you using a specific brand projector to make the cuts?

I know the one in the pic isnt finished..Im just not sure what exactly you are providing. And Im sure you'll get more feedback when you post some more pictures (maybe of one that you've finished and have mounted a projector in) and also more details of what youre trying to do.

J.

BlueZee28

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What he said. I'm interested as I really want to do this too, but we need more info.

Firebat

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Im interested but would like to see a pic of it installed and/or the final product. Firebird owners might be wondering if it would work for a 91-92 Firebird since they use a 4x6 headlight. Not a lot of room in the back of firebird headlights though.

ghettocruiser

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Yeah I would finish a set...and check how they fit (if they fit) in a firebird. THEN come back and try to seek interest in making more. Because to be honest...the part of cutting the reflector bowl isnt the hardest part of doing a retrofit. Its mounting the projector, making sure its aligned, and having clearance at the back. Those are the major challenges.

But Ide like to see where youre going with these so def post more when you finish them. Im doing a retro on my 2000 Jetta, and with the extra set of projectors I plan to install them into my 86 TA. Just experimenting with lexan before I post up or try to finish em.

J.

Spike-Z

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Hmmm. interesting, lets see more!

Keoman

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Fits great

They measure 6 Inches from front of glass to back of projector with the D2S valeos that im using. I could have sqeezed it another 1/8 inch inward but i went on the safe side. They are coming along Gotta wait till i get done to make a thread though ;p

angelbirdv8

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Awesome job on the projectors man
Would like to see more pics of making them

customblackbird

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beam pattern woulda been better if you used true clear lenses on the projectors.

I did a retrofit in my bird using morimoto mini projectors that have a 2.5" lens, 55w DDM ballasts and 6000-8000K bulbs. Light output is fa-nominal! Birds are ALOT more tricky than camaro's as the birds headlight bucket area has less room and not to mention has to flip up. I bypassed that and made lexan covers and made it all solid like a camaro. Shaved a bunch of weight off the front end!

good luck with the build. how much the valeo's cost ya?

Keoman

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True Clear Lense pattern?
I ended up paying like 60$ shipped for them. Not to bad. I have to find the ones i want to use for the high beams now. I was thinking about just taking the same projector and removing the cutoff plate inside.

customblackbird

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your lens isnt perfectly clear... u can see the haze or rings in the lens. This will diminish light output/beam cutoff sharpness. The highend projectors will have clear lenses and are usually an upgrade to certain factory projectors that you get off of acuras or lexus.

"Most OEM projectors out there come standard with what is known as "fresnel" lenses. These projector lenses have circular lines molded into their surface, and are often produced with less than optically clear glass. So what? Well the fresnel lines and frosted/ translucent glass dim the output and soften the beam pattern so the projectors are not performing to their full performance and aesthetic capabilities. A true clear lens will help unleash the true potential of the projector compared to the "detuned" stock lenses. As mentioned above- think of a projector just like any other original part on your car, of course there will always be an aftermarket performance/aesthetic upgrade available."

Also your projectors arent Bixenon obviously so what you have is a low beam projector... In order for you to have a high beam you would need a seperate projector that is HALOGEN, since HIDs cant be used as High beams since they take to long to ignite etc. So most setups for HID low beam will have a seperate halogen High beam and it usually isnt a projector since high beams are just a flash of extra light.

You could have solved this issue by getting a Bixenon projector that way you use the HID projector as a low beam and then the flip of the high beam actuates a selenoid (cutoff sheild flips down) and you get high beams with the brightness of real HIDs. Then you would only have to run one projector/HID kit and consume much less power.

Your 60$ you paid for those "lesser quality" projectors you could have gotten a real clear lense Bixenon projector for 40$ more and you could have gotten a cool bezel for free. I got mine from retrofit source and it only cost me 110$ including shipping and i have functional bizenon HID projectors with clear lense and the light output and cutoff are simply amazing.

Keoman

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... In order for you to have a high beam you would need a separate projector that is HALOGEN, since HIDs can’t be used as High beams since they take too long to ignite etc...

That a rather ambiguous statement; and I would love to know what your "ect." subjects are... Let’s refine that a little.

"In order for you to have a high beam TO BRIGHT ONCOMING TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE MAD (how patriotic) you would need a separate projector that is HALOGEN, since HIDs can’t be used as High beams (that's a news to me) since they take too long to ignite etc"

Besides, it takes what... 7 seconds for them to reach full brightness from being completely cool and turned off. I can flip my fog lights off after they have "warmed up" and a good 20 seconds later, they turn right on as bright as when they turned off. (yes they are HID equipped)

Halogen projector? :barf:

customblackbird

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ppl like you shouldnt be allowed to be on this type of site, the fact that youve become defensive and somewhat sarcastic is not just a reflection of your child like personality but also your intellegence.

Lets get into the information if we shall... i question your knowledge of HIDs, as well as anything else that has to do with cars. The fact that your trying to tell me more about HIDs when your using A CHEAP EBAY PROJECTOR (way to support the american economy you little hypocrite) and your going to lecture me on being patriotic?

I also question your knowledge of cars, this being newer cars that HAVE SEPERATE HIGH AND LOW BEAM PROJECTORS! Most cars that run projectors arent even HID projectors, example being the ford fusion, new Hyundai's, hondas, toyota's... why dont u do some research before making comments. They use a low beam projector and have a seperate HIGH beam halogen setup, most dont even use dual projectors and just run a seperate halogen headlight. Here in this pic of the fusion headlight u see the halogen projector low beam and the lense next to that is the HIGH BEAM halogen headlight, the the smaller amber bulb is the blinker. So right there u just proved that u know nothing about headlight systems. http://www.cartomotive.com/wp-conten...ht-670x502.jpg

HIDs can not be used as HIGH BEAMS unless your running a bixenon projector... end of statement. High beams on production cars (if not bixenon) run seperate high beam fixtures and that HALOGEN and no HID, this is due to igniting the HID. IF you dont believe me then prove it! I wish a few ppl would chime in and tell you how ignorant and miss informed you are.
Besides, it takes what... 7 seconds for them to reach full brightness from being completely cool and turned off. I can flip my fog lights off after they have "warmed up" and a good 20 seconds later, they turn right on as bright as when they turned off. (yes they are HID equipped)
you proved me correct right there and you dont even know it bc your prob on your period and cant focus. Sure 20sec after they are warmed up... what are the chances your gona be turning on your HIGH BEAMs every 20sec? why would u be using your high beams every 20s? maybe bc ur that A$$HOLE who runs around with your brights on all the time in your honda bc it looks cool. how many times does anyong use there brights in a 20min drive? ummm how about once maybe! so ignite your high beam and then let it not be used for 20min and then flash ur high beams...when they dont work bc they bulb has cooled and u need to ignite it again you'll know im right and then punch yourself in the face bc ur wrong!

Completely unnecessary, besides that, what am I supposed to do with the hole for the brights? Leave the stock lamp in there for "good looks"? Take it out and make it look like my car got in a bar fight? Remeber, the camaro has 4 headlights.

why do u need to run 4 projectors? if u wanted to do it correctly you would stop bitching and run a halogen projector or leave the stock high beams since youll only be using them once in while... but you dont even know what your talking about so why am i wasting my time? Run it your way, waste your money on another set of projectors and ballasts (if your counting then you would know your already over the price of my 100$ projectors and my single kit of ballasts) so count your on your toes and fingers.... 60$ projector x2= 120$ plus add another set of ballasts/bulbs, so your way over what i have in a CORRECT SETUP! again your wrong.

Also how are your calling a bixenon projector unnecessary? they are the only correct way to run HID highbeams ... not to mention legally. This statement proves that you should delete your membership and go fill those honda sites with your BULL$HIT!

The stock 4651 highbeam light uses anywhere from 55-60 watts a piece. HID kit = 35 +/- watts a piece. I dont know what you consider to be "much less
power"
the fact that just stated watts in a car that is solely based on AMPS is mind boggling. who gives a $hit about watts? Its about how many AMPs it draws u dumb A$$! what do you do when u shop for an alternator? ask ur best friend at autozone how many watts the high output alternator puts out? HAHA! and for your information ballasts when they ignite HID bulbs product a voltage spike of usually 6-7amps to ignite the bulb then the current draw is VERY VERY low to keep the bulb ignited... which is much LOWER current draw than a halogen setup which are very inefficient! so the total power draw of a HID setup is much much less than a haolgen setup after igniting.

Drats! I missed the chance to spend more money that I don’t have instead of take some of my own time and custom fab them myself.
Really, tell me, how much better are these other lenses? You act like I don't know anything about HID systems. I can just see you sitting there at your computer screen shaking your head with your nose in the air and your pinky held hi because in your book I "didn't get REAL projectors.."

wow u really are dumb... what exactly are u fabbing? your certainly not fabbing the actual projector housing are u? no thats what you purchased, so what your fabbing is the projector mounting shroud in which to place the projector... so really again you have no idea what your talking about. I purchased the projector as you did, but i bought mine USA unlike you. then i made a lense cover to delete the firebird popup, i then fabbed up the mouting of the projector inside the headlight bucket. So really i doing the same as you, except mine will work, and is legal. Yours will have $hitty light output compared to mine, a $hitty cuttoff line compared to mine and mine will work not to mention i will have a functioning HID HIGH BEAM where youll have to ignite yours again if you dont fire your highbeams every minute haha. After you figure out that u cant get the HID high beam to work on a seperate projector then you will prob go to halogen, again when you figure this out please punch yourself in the face.

I never said your projectors werent real, i said they are of lesser quality which they are bc you paid 60$ for them. Since you obviously dont know how to read, dont quote me when your not even really quoting me bc i didnt say what you typed.

How much better are the lenses? Not exactly sure since i havent tested the fresenl lenses but here are a couple of swaps from fresnel lense to clear and there is a noticable difference. http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...or-clear/page2


So to sum it up, please go back and get your GED, learn how to read, read and comprehend completely before posting, and do all your research before you think you know more about someone else bc the fact is that someone will always know more than you.

So pink taco, please get off the rag, put some vagisil on your "pink taco" and please take your bull$hit to another forum.

Keoman

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Oh calm down man, I was just messin. No hard feelings

Bradlyj8Z28

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any updates? you going to make some for sale? they look good, any pics lit up on a wall perhaps?

Dakota W.

I personally think a bixenon lamp would be great, that way I could run air filters to the open headlight spaces, what's the price going to be like for these low beam projectors though?

Keoman

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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...-exterior.html

1988 djpatrick

Few questions....
If I buy, are you going to ship me a plug and play product?
What is the price you're asking?
Are you taking orders now?
Can your add halo rings in them?
Also, if I buy. I want hi and low beams. Can u make that happen?